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Rich Heaton

DGFavor wrote:dropped outta the chuck wagon on the day of the trial.

Good one man,,, knew I could count on ya.

John,,, you going to show up at the sharptail?

Rich Heaton

DGFavor wrote:Never realized Maryland was a hotbed for pheasants

That's it,,,, That's all ya got?? What's next,,, the Hun Championship at Hoffman?

Rich Heaton

Hard to believe ya can't find any takers on this. Sounds to me like a pretty fair deal, get to hunt the world famous Montana Sharpies, see a gsp trial done on wild birds, meet the "who's who" in the gsp world, see the only full trycerotops skull in North American only 2 in the world, drink beer with...

Rich Heaton

Gray Dawg,,,,, did ya find some company?

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Rich, Going with your dad is the best. You all hunt off horse back is that right? Yea,,, we are going back to Montana and the Dakota's for a few weeks and going to throw our chips in at the All American SD Championship and the Southwestern AA championship,, then back to Montana for some hunting and...

Rich Heaton

Sounds like all good advice and wisdom,,,,, but it makes me wonder on what generation this advice is coming from? What has happend to the days where ya throw the dogs in go. heck my dad is 70, we don't leave for 3 weeks but I have to go meet him tonight to start "gettin ready and getn the trailer or...

Rich Heaton

Pros win, fact No question,,,,, a major circuit pro will beat an average handler most of the time even with a lesser dog,,, he'll just plain out handle ya. Those guy's that find themselves in the winners circles alot aren't there by accident, they are good trainers, handlers, they know the courses,...

Rich Heaton

I have heard pro's say and to me this logic makes sense,,,,,, the biggest threat to them is a top ranked amateur. Why,,,, they get to pick and choose the dogs they want to train,,,, where as the pro's have to take the dogs that will put food on the table. I think alot of pro's have the attitude they...

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Real cool Tom, Congrats. Sounds like you have started the pup out right,,,,, Just a word of advice to your son,,,, Say No to Pigeons,, Not Even Once.

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You said your pups grandsire was Tomoka,,,, who was the dad,, would have had to be frozen semen I assume?

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Is that any relation to Jerry's Runaway Bandit?

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Ray,,,, I personally thought you made perfect sense. Made sense to me. The two things I would wonder is??? Does the female only release 10 or so eggs or are there thousands like sperm? The other question is using the bell curve analogy with 1 million sperm you would see sperm from the bottom of the ...

Rich Heaton

Personally I think it is a greedy practice, when done intentionally, and isn't done with the betterment of the breed in mind Topher,,,, I understand everybody has a right to there opinion and I respect yours,,,,,, not that I have ever done it but in the scenerio that I gave why I might do it,,,,, h...

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I have actually thought about doing it. For me I like spring pups,,,which means I only have 1 chance per year to breed a particular female. I like to do frozen semen stuff and have been offered free semen because the quality isn't very good. Now granted it was fairly famous dogs but still wasn't wor...

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Huh,,,, that's more pathetic than I thought it would be,,,, be my luck my buddy would have a biscuit with him and coax the dog over to him and I'd drown. Just say'n,,,, from experience of my ol'crab fishn days,,,, if your ever tossed into the Bering Sea,,,, throw a life raft or a rope,,, but don't t...

Rich Heaton

Not to take this thread further off course,,, but what's this about dropping NewFoundlands out of helicopters for search and rescue? Is that true? Might keep the sharks off ya for a bit,,,, but what's the purpose of sending a dog into a water search and rescue situation?

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Just to throw my 2 cents into this spat,,,, I think every judge I have ever ran under has put up what He thinks is the best dog. Now I always don't agree but its never been a political and or financial decision. Just because someone doesn't see an AA dog or a SD like I do doesn't make it wrong. When...

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Sonny,,,,,, How are you, good to hear from you. I am actually talking about the NGSPA championship which is in Eukalaka Montana, about 3 hours south of Circle. Where do ya need to get a horse to and from?

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Anybody going this year? I hear the birds numbers are way up.

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Mike B,,,,, naw that's Trenton, Doug's nephew. Ya got to spend more time at the gym and less time running dogs to have pipes like that. The guy with the rake is Alex (aka SharptailHunter). Yea we put a pretty cool drain system in the dog kennel part,,,,, half the garage slopes to the front and the o...

Rich Heaton

Mountain dogs,,,, feel free to pm me with your phone number I can tell ya everything you will ever want to know about concrete,,,,, if ya have an extra 2 minutes. :D Slump will have nothing to do with the price of concrete. Min yards is whatever up to the redi mix company. The big savings is trying ...

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Mountain dogs,,,, feel free to pm me with your phone number I can tell ya everything you will ever want to know about concrete,,,,, if ya have an extra 2 minutes. :D Slump will have nothing to do with the price of concrete. Min yards is whatever up to the redi mix company. The big savings is trying ...

Rich Heaton

Pineywoods wrote:It's hard to hide money

Why would ya want to?

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But know they are talking, and insulting me personally does not change it. Now Neil,,, I gave ya the option fair and square to take this privately. Also this thread is about the NGSPA Region 9, so any questioning of the judging and or conspiracy theories about payouts I am going to take personally....

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My dog might not have had a championship performance, but it still has meaning to have the best of the worst. Living proof ya just can't set the bar low enough for some people. Neil I think your comments about following the money trail is complete BS. It not only show's your arrogance but also you ...

Rich Heaton

Yikes,,,,, sorry man,,, yea that was my opinion. I just pressed "reply" and I was good to go.

Anyway's,,,,, Neil ya have an arse chewing coming, ya want it public or private?

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Most likely just poor judging. I did not need to be there to see it, there is just no reason to with hold placements. Riddle me this Neil,,,,, what do ya do when no dog finishes the hour? Either by getting lost, quits running, poor birdwork and handler elects to put the dog in the harness? And if th...

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Wow Sj,,, your taking alot of flak for trying to give your dogs and nice big run. I personally just don't see where it is that big of deal. I've seen (video) Ross C. kennel 25 of them together,,,, DgF kennels 4 in 1,,, I do the same. Only difference we call them play yards,,, bottom line,,, we do wh...

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Greg,,,, I do know there is some good hunting in those parts. The person that could be of most help would be Austin Turley he lives in Laurel. If your interested I can make the introduction and you can pick his brain.

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Greg,,,, why do ya want to go that far south and that far west? IMO the better bird hunting is in the east?

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I bred to SCD not long ago,,,, feel free to PM me and I can give ya a list of names of people who have them. I gather the top side is what you are interested in?

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Thanks everybody for the replies. Still haven't found anything super cool.

Would a Grandson of Bill's Hustler bring any attention?

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As we always say, it's a lot easier to reel them in than to try and push them out I thought we agreed "We would rather push'em them pull'em"? I have been around V's east coast and now the western dogs some. I have seen some really big running V's, especially recently I would agree,,,, Pointers 1st ...

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Interesting thread,,, I know the Pacific Coast Championship has been run 112 times. But the History of the Pacific Coast Championship dates back to 1883. A Supreme Court Judge C.N. Post started it. Kinda of interesting the entry was $2.50 and the winner got 50 bucks. Probably big money in those days...

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Birddog,,,, anything else you can tell me about these two dogs,,,,, PM is fine. Thanks

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Here is an updated pic(warning not for a weak stomach). Our vet couldn't get us in until Tuesday AM. But if there is something that I can buy that would help treat an infection side of things from the store. I really don't htink it is something more sivere than being bit by a bug or bugs and now it...

Rich Heaton

Ok,,,, it was bugging me so I looked it up.

Sunday July 19, 2009,,,, Moose posed the same question under the heading,,,, Has anyone ever seen anything like this. Its about on page 6.

Check it out look at the pictures,, it looks the same. Might contact him to get more info.

Rich Heaton

Thanks Chip,,,,, I bet I know who could tell me for sure,,, lol. Where is Ross these days?

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Thanks Brett,, yea I know its been awhile,,, what I was actually hoping for is somebody that line breed (inbreed) RWK or RWR up to the 80's or so and then collected. So at best you would see alot of it 4 generations back. The best I can find now is just once 5 to 6 generations back. Millers Chief wo...

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We have seen that before on this forum,,,, might want to look through the archives.

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Yea I have talked with him,,,, he's pretty high on Sir Lancelot these days. Mostly has that currently bred about a hundred different ways.

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BigShooter wrote:The original Riggins White Knight won the National Championship in 1968

That would be the one,,,,,,,,I am hoping somebody would have a dog of the early 80's that would be line breed RWK and some frozen juice left.

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Wouldn't matter natural or AI,,, AI probably would get closer. PM's welcome

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Anybody have any idea how close you can breed to this dog.

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Thanks guys,,,,,, that's what I needed.

I see you guys are from Ok,,,,, I heard they passed a new kennel law down there that is going to make it real tough on some of the breeders?

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I was wondering if anybody know's anything about this dog? I can't find much of anything about his pedigree but he seems to start showing up about 5 generations back in pedigrees.

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Wow,,,,, sounds like somebody's got a "man crush" on Ferrill.

Rich Heaton

I would teach the dog to take one single step, on command, while on point. Here's my logic. I come up on the dog on point. it is pointing into a thicket or tangle of nasty stuff. Tof lush the bird, i have to go into the thick stuff ahead of the dog and when the bird(s) do get up, i often have no sh...

Rich Heaton

I am hoping to find a siduation like a trial with horses and a gallery where I can use my e collar but it does not seem possible Why is using your e-collar so important to you,,, you should be mixing up the method of correction anyways. IMO when a broke dog in a trial rips and chases a bird he know...

Rich Heaton

I'm with the No Touch Camp. I really don't see what there is to gain from changing the focus of a dog from the smell of a bird to getting touched. But I think the true guts to this question is "how to get better style" on point. And I bet the the owners know that there dog has the style (potential) ...

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