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Kent makes a #2 3" 20 gauge load thats around 1500fps that should do what you want them to. Alot of guys I know just use there duck loads and crush the Pheasants
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Anybody ever use one for upland hunting? Im thinking of getting a 20 gauge with fixed IC and Mod. chokes. ITs got the standard 20" barrels, just looking to get a 20 bore to hunt close quarter quail. Thanks
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I have the book and it is well worth the money. Gives you alot of insight that most training programs dont even consider. Goes step by step on ways to train a dog not using any force at all. Obviosly it has worked she has trained several champion Goldens. I highly reccomend it.
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I would put away the doves and make sure the dog has Basic Ob. down and has mastered retrieving and delivering hand. So many try and dive right into live/frozen birds and its not always good for a dog. Master the bumpers, then slowly transition to wing attached dummies, then frozen birds, thawed, et...

Yes I have he is starting to reach for it. He did pretty good tonight we started the walking part of the Hold and he did pretty good. I put quite a bit of pressure on his ear with the pinch and by the end of the session he started to hold it while moving with only a little bit of chewing it.
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Thanks again for all the advice guys. One thing that I want to clear up is the dog will hold but just not how I feel a dog should before moving on. We are past the chin hold process and he will hold the bumper for a few seconds up to half a minute. THe hold is not tight, I rap under the chin on the ...

Thanks for all the advice guys I do appreciate it. I have potentially a great dog with tons of drive and desire to please he just has me stumped right now. I will try and increase the pressure with the ear pinch and If in a few days I dont see improvement I will give him a few days break and regroup...

I am using a program the DOBBS Force retireve DVD's. I have followed. it to a tee. Been consistent and pervasive. I cant move on if the dog will not hold. Thats why Im asking I have had friends that have watch me give a lesson and say it was done correctly. The dog will not hold realiably I see no p...

As I said in previos post Im still working on the Hold command Everyday for 5-7min with my male black lab 9 months old. Were getting pretty good at it, but no means is it good. He will hold but but wants to drop more often than not when I am not right next to him. This is going on a month of this, i...

Im working my 8 month old lab trying to get him to hold. I know he is still young but he shows all the characteristics of a dog that is ready to be force fetched. He has been introduced to birds, shot over, water etc. etc. Basic Ob. is very sound. The problem is on retireves he is very sloppy with t...

This is what I did with my lab. Who is similiar age. I put him on a 20ft check cord and let him away from me. Give a jerk on the cord, I said the command "HERE" and gave him a treat, piece of string cheese when he came. I made sure he was hungry and not feed before I worked with him. I did this for ...