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Chukar12

I'm in a different camp when it comes to training. Finding and staying with a program sounds like good advice if it works. When it doesn't work is the reason many fail at training their own dog. Most can't train like the professional seminar they attended or the dvd they watched; they can't read th...

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Are you saying the field trialer is incapable of recognizing the same things a judge is supposed to That most certainly depends on the experience and ability of both the field trialer and the judge you are comparing, and the objectiveness of either. To the original poster's thought which can remain...

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Don't lay too low Mo...there are too few of you who actually know how to help. You leave and the rest of us hacks will have people and their brand new bird dogs going in circles :)... If I don't see a reasonable representation I will start stirring things up in your pointing dog group instead of jus...

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But, i have taught a dog to retrieve, and been through/am going through he last stages of the ff process.Ive been training my dog for 6 months now, and been all around other trainers and dogs since.I have no doubt you know more than me, but to tell me i know NOTHING, now thats not nice thing to say...

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I don't argue that Mo...and again I hate labeling methods and types of dogs they get misunderstood, but with softer or more sensitive dogs I revert to mostly what you preach. I find the pinch collar, and the Wonderlead concept easier on dogs than some of the other things i have used. However, few pe...

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This question was not worded very well. When I read the pressure thread, and some others through the years my curiosity is piqued about how trainers see things. Style is so subjective that we cannot get people to agree outside of extremely obvious cases, what effect pressure has, and in some cases I...

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I told you my story, now tell me yours Joe. Aye yi yi... That hardly seems fair...follow a professional training legend with my thoughts... I do some base work prior to the use of the check cord. I have 5 fenced acres (and few dogs to work) from 6 weeks on in an evening romp while we walk quietly, ...

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Chuker. maybe I read it wrong but I thought most of you were listing pressure, stress, and fear as just different degrees of the same thing. It is my feeling that pressure stands alone and stress or fear are different degrees of response to pressure.Ezzy Certainly in the complexity of the format th...

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If you have a 4 month old puppy on a check cord teaching him a recall, and allow me to assume that you use a tug/release type methodology to bring the dog to you, please give me your thoughts or opinions on this. The dog is twenty feet from you an you tug and release the dog all the way into you, do...

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Now what?
Ice chest and fly rod

Chukar12

Pressure is a feeling to expected performance whether coming from the trainer or yourself. In a dogs case it is usually from the trainer. Stress is the reaction of your mind and body to that pressure. And fear comes from knowing there will be severe consequences if you fail. Sorry, but I disagree i...

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I firmly believe that if the dog understands what you are trying to convey, it is pressure to conform to previously established standards of behavior. If the dog does not understand... it is stress which can very rapidly become fear. In the multitude of sentences written regarding this, this summar...

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I would venture that half the wild bird dogs I see hunting chukars in the desert actually break themselves, they get hauled around by hunters not dog trainers. In a well bred pointing dog, the instinct to point kicks in with experience and maturity and the dog will stand through the flush. Most of w...

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There is a big difference between pressure, stress and fear. If you think of them on a continuum no dog or person can get through life without learning to handle pressure, the key to avoiding stress is insuring a solution is available to alleviate it; especially in the immature stages. It is by no s...

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when chewing the fat should you choose a contrary position; wouldn't it be prudent to have tried both sides of the argument if you are engaged with people who have? If you think either a nylon or leather collar works better I assume you have tried both. A clicker is not necessary in the training of ...

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I surely don't think anyone is getting screwed, but I do get your meaning. Geography is limiting and culture. The mid west has smaller states. The populations in the west are metro centered and the Brittany clubs are supported in those areas by folks with interests other than horseback field trials....

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None of that gives you the whole picture. I have a pup on the Purina list 3rd or 4th highest in the west that won a single amateur all-age event. He is not at this point as proven as some of the dogs below him and he is better than a couple above him (IMO). Through nothing other than their dedicatio...

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Some of the pups tails are very very short and I am concerned if I pick a regular tail pup from these litters she will be inherently more likely to throw these type of pups and is that a negative from a breeders perspective. I was wondering if others had the same concerns. I started out worried abo...

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Congratulations

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Nice dodge, but you know what I am saying. The greater the distance from the dog, the more difficult the tool becomes to use It's not a dodge, as a semi professional trainer I would think the facts surrounding operant conditioning would be of interest to you. A check cord is difficult to use at 200...

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A note of caution with a chain gang or stakeout. Use enough stake/anchor. A bird or something loose in camp can cause dogs on a stakeout to lunge and potentially pull a chain gang up. It is not hard to imagine the plethora of injuries that you can create with 5-10 or 15 dogs attached via chain runni...

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Maurice wrote:Wow, I started not to look, did it anyway sure did. Carry on fellas, way above my pay grade

None of you charge enough...

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puppies coming

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For the clicker clique:Let's say the wind is blowing 10+ mph and your dog is say 30-40 yards out and he does somthing specatular. How do you use the clicker to let him know he did good? First off, a dog will have no trouble hearing a clicker at 30 or 40 yards in a 10+ mile an hour wind, depending o...

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Nate I would add that the clicker is based on principles established by Pavlov. Just to make this more argumentative and or confusing I believe Pavlov is classical conditioning v. Skinner's operant conditioning (clicker). In example, Pavlov discovered a neutral signal ( before the behavior ) could ...

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Neil wrote:Why is it so hard to understand? Add = positive, remove = negative

your explanations have not been in vain...I get it now.

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Chukar: Was my fantasy pairing of Rita and Jackpot the type of ill advised mating you're referring to here? It occurs to me that this match up may be too much inbreeding. I know some people would do it even if it was too close of a pairing, but then some people also cull their rejects. I personally...

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I personally do not think there has been a poor choice mentioned in the thread. I cannot say what I would do, if I knew I would certainly be doing it. I am looking for a female now. I watched every brace of the Brittany Amateur and Open Nationals this past year, the handful of hour stakes out west o...

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Wems, I see she is lower in the am...they all seem to be that way. Your biggest drop in that stretch is 1 point, I don't think its without fail but my anxiety sets in at two points. You may also PM k-nine aka Arlette...when I get wigged out at whelping time she sets me straight. My guess is unless y...

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What are we trying to fix or prevent? Do a bunch of us have sickly dogs out there? It seems to me that active dogs are like active people, in overwhelming large numbers too busy to be unhealthy... Then we start fussing...things have to be perfect, it's all about comfort, perfect balance, tinkering w...

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Wow, good work and congratulations

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Yes, that is what I would have said if I was smart enough. Great dogs and horses rarely replicate themselves as sires/dams, but often in the second or even third and beyond generations an anomally reappears. But what I have seen in the first generation is a lot of above average dogs. Neil Yeah well...

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I wish I had an opinion on this, but I have no idea, I was not involved in competition young enough and missed some things I wish i could draw from... :( I am fascinated by some of the comments and they make sense...the "average" would be higher with selective breeding, but the very best may be happ...

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I ask again the above The guy has a grand total of 57 posts beginning in January that kicks off with him asking about getting his first gun dog. What makes you think every person who is new is following a program? Further, what makes you believe your question is important enough to repeat in bold? ...

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I am making an assumption the dog is reacting this way on scent? What if you revert to stop to flush work upwind on birds the dog cannot smell? You eliminate one of the heightened senses and may be able to change the " habit?"

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they do look like mountain quail, but all I have seen are Gambel's. We have a building materials yard down there...it is incredible how many of those birds are on the golf courses. Gambel's... http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/chukar12/Gambels_Quail_Glamor_Ned_Harris_zpse793f448.jpg Mountain ...

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My original intent in this post still holds true if you want to read a dog well go see a good trainer Pro or Semi-Pro and see if you can help I bet he won't turn you away. Mo I didn't want it to turn that way and I'm sorry it did. But my point was all dogs are readable some not as easy but are stil...

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If it is Paul, and if it is a So Ca Brittany pro I cannot imagine who else it might be? He can fill you in on all of the breedings mentioned, he is certainly well versed and patently, brutally honest as most crusty old trainers are....and nobody knows Smokey dogs better...anywhere. If you note above...

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this post was about reading a dog please lets keep it to that not what you heard at a seminar or what someone else said Find someone else to moderate. Every word of what i have written has to do with reading a dog, and if I am quoting someone else; those with reasonable intellect and reading compre...

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what does one have to do with the other ?

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That is not true they always give a warning as do all dogs I've see hundreds of pit bulls and bulldogs over the years and all gave notice that something was going to happen. He may not know what to look for but they all give signs before They all MAY give signals but some are invisible to 99.9999% ...

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Thank you for the endorsements. I do not personally have any litters planned, but I do have a breeder who used my Sonny dog in Reno with a litter due to whelp soon. If you look at my website... www.jggundogs.com the female is similar in breeding to my dog Amber, and this is the breeding that produce...

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Lisa and Paul both came out and judged, they really seemed to enjoy themselves. They went to all the events and were great ambassadors. The all-age side is steeper and rockier where Lisa was judging, she was on a strange horse so she took a prudent pace for the first day or so...they had not been ou...

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See the horses?

camp

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Riding out the all-age course http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/chukar12/milepost9allage_zpsbe7feaae.jpg The all age course looking southeast out of camp, ride is between the two visible ridges, dogs can run objectives either side http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/chukar12/milepost9all...

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Hello SD Newbie Many pointing dog folks do not teach the behavior to sit on command, they teach a stand still command instead usually cued with the word "whoa." The reason being that a dog will often default under pressure to the safest and first expected behavior asked of it, and in some cases we e...

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not sure I am real wild about the idea of another device (collar and then clicker) I need to run while hunting Don't equate a clicker with hunting. I really am over simplifying this, but the clicker is just a manner to do yard work and shape behaviors with positive reenforcement before you expect t...

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I had to add a picture. It was taken at Mile Post 9 near Marsing, Idaho. The Idaho Brittany Club did a fantastic job with the Futurity and I offer them many thanks. The first two placements are litter mates, third place is Patch their half brother a pup I own and have posted some pics of over the la...

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Scoots deserves some respect for that...it is a floating pattern. Now if he had you using a nymph under some kind of bobber, like say, a DD might? Well then, all moral fiber is suspect.

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There are more successful dogs competing in Championships and national stakes that have run derby stakes happily bumping and chasing than otherwise, and the simple reason for that is that they are usually broke by someone who knows what they are doing. There is a time to stop and the experienced wil...

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