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chrokeva wrote:Here is a follow up story
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/debate-surg ... ollar-use/

not a follow up that was a couple days before the fox interview

Funny thing not being mentioned is that the food trained group (c) showed more whining (begging) and the highest cortisol (stress) levels

My dog has had a sim problem. Professional cleaning cost me $500. and the dog definetly is no candidate for a raw diet. Hates raw eggs, meat, bones and raw milk LOL


nylabones dont get as much as a glance

FYI - I hear they changed owners and are making changes to some of their formulas.

many times stool problems are from overfeeding. not to say that was the prob but it is a possibility.

I agree w ez. focus on what is different in the first day of the hunt than every other day of the year.

some mentioned- confinement, water intake, feeding routines, maybe stress/enthusiasm

If its used for a few months you might also see an improvement in the dogs teeth.>>>


couldn't the acidity of the vinegar wear at the enamel if used continually?

my dog loves acana. I know its made by the same company but she certainly likes all the GF formulas more than orijen.

For clicker advocates, just what do you feel the difference is between clicking for proper behavior and treating, and simply telling the dog "good" and treating?>>>>


can be more precise w timing. I find it works well w trick training. If your into that

I can certainly see using the tone on the collar for the same effect as the click and that would give you the option to use both positive and negative stimuli in the same tool - but isn't that what the collar manufacturers had in mind when they designed the tone and the instructions for use?>>>>>> h...

My dog is actually afraid of raw bones. LOL

raw milk also

Nutro ultra/acana mix.

dog does well on nutro. She loves acana more than any other but its often hard to get in the area

Good post. And I agree completely. One you dog likes nd does well on, is readily available and you can afford is the best food you can feed.

Ezzy>>>>

At last we agree. LOL

I know loads of people on FF some do well on it. Does that make it healthy as a staple in diet. I dont want to get crazy w food ingredients again esp considering im no extream Health nut for myself or my dog. However as you know dogs that do well on old roy I know some that do fine on Raw also. Even...

Get real!!!!!!! This isn't a forum to just push your agenda but people are asking serious questions and expecting serious answers. I>>>> so anyone that doesent have your view of the world has an agenda? whats your agenda? thats right its eat processed foods with lots of preservatives because if the ...

Companies do not put something in their product that overall lessens the quality of their feed. They are betting there existance of the fact that you will come back for more and that means the feed has to perform.>>>> does that mean all dog foods are great and there are no bad foods? Im not anti big...

But see, this is where we differ. I don't use a leash for corrections. I use it for containment. You use an e-collar for corrections. So how can you compare the two when they're used differently?>>>>>> I would guess that if your dog once pulled and you "acted like a tree" eventually the dog learned ...

Thats why we want to see a meat source be the main ingredient. Can't think Of any feed where that isn't true.>>>> lets say brand A ing lists one primary meat source like "chicken" as the first ingredient and then the next ing is brewers rice then rice flour then whole ground corn then corn germ meal...

You should read some books, study animal nutrition, and look at the results of thousand upon thousands of feeding test before telling everyone what is good and what is bad and why. You just couldn't be further from the truth>>> im just dumb i guess. dogs are non obligate carnivores. They will eat ve...

It tells you they crave the vegetable protein and carbs contained in the digestive tract. Wild animals do the same thing and the meat is last thing consumed.>>>> I think they do crave the organ meat but not because of the vegetables. If an animal eats a another carnivore it still goes for the organs...

As far as corn goes, as a carb it is as good as any. The digestibility issue with corn vs rice is a technicality. If the starch in the corn is gelatinized fully, it should not be a problem. I know of two companies that "precondition" corn before the extrusion process so that the corn is fully gelat...

Green tripe is the best thing you can give your dog and it is a "by-product", right?>>> good point. however I would not want unnamed byproducts at the top of the list. All the crap parts may be benificial in moderation but as the top 3-4 ing? and the prob is if it says "chicken byproducts" who is to...

If finances are taken out of the equation I disagree that that corn and byproducts are fine. dogs are carnivores there diet should consist of primarily meat. corn is not readily digestible and is mostly filler. by products of chicken for instance is the carcass after the meat is removed feet beaks e...