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making the dog stand for a few minutes at 14 mos old seems unnecessary. go in, flush the bird. save that for later until he stops moving after faster flushes.

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See you there!

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At 2 yrs old the vizsla is just getting mature enough to figure it out! Mine has been so much slower than our GSP puppy - seems it is that way for most Vs - just a little slower to mature. If it comes from the right lines it's never too late.

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They are the same as any other breed - some are good, some are bad. Harder to find a good vizsla imo than a GSP though. Whereas my GSP puppy has no problem going out big already, it took a while for the V to figure it out - and it's still not a guarantee everytime he is down. Sometimes it's 150 yard...

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You're in Missouri - just go to a 4 day force retrieve clinic with Jon Hann.

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V-John wrote:Congrats. You coming to NVAs in March?

He has trials the first 2 weekends in Feb then resting him a bit to get him ready for NGDC in April.

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Dang - will be at a MO trial or would have gone!

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Got another point, 2nd in AGD major.. 7 afc 4 fc, not yet 2...

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ACooper wrote:I have heard for several years that it was in the works, but as far as I know it has never been produced. From what I understand they do have an excellent trained retrieve seminar.

I did the clinic - it was great. No video and don't think they are in a hurry to release it.

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greatlawn wrote:I want to trial and hunt test with him.

you are 90 minutes from one of the best pros in the US - Jon Hann up in Gallatin - give him a call before you permanently screw him up.

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It means a lot more to me when they win at horseback all breed trials - completely open stakes with all breeds. getting a national in any breed is quite impressive though - let them run with everything.

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I was not offended, because I don't care what he thinks, says, or writes, were he or his dogs any account, I would know him. But I found no humor in his posts. Change the breed to yours and see if you smile. And isn't on topic. I have a couple breeds and you can rag on them all you want; heck at sh...

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Thanks, he's done well. Jon Hann broke him at summer camp and he's just got better and better. Placed in all his gun dogs except one weekend when he got hurt. Since he never got his derby points ran him in AWD today and won. Has an AGD ret major from a few weeks ago too. Very honest dog, tries hard....

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I have read a couple comments like this from you and i can not tell if you are being sarcastic or did one of these dogs "bleep" in your cheerios :?: I'm just bustin' some b*lls. I know there are good Britts out there - a ton will outrun my dog every day. I also see a ton (higher % wise than most br...

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ultracarry wrote:I'm running in OGD, AA, AND AMATEUR at every Britt trial in cal city. Do you mind scouting for me? She will be the one wearing pink collars and boots. I'll be walking!

Those Brittany's won't even know what to do with a dog that stands on point!

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What would be the advantage of not disclosing the actual dam? I mean it's not like your breeding pointer into a GSP line; it's pointer x pointer...

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Gauge1 wrote:Ross Callaway is the new ferrel miller that is who you need to talk to..

Why is that?

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If you trialed exclusively in 1 state - where would it be the hardest to finish a dog?

My vote is for the KS/MO - a lot of those dogs get to see a ton of wild birds which teaches a dog everything.

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You're doing the gun wrong - get the Perfect Start and follow it - teaches how to do bird intro with association of shot = falling bird. Just going out and shooting right away is a recipe for a gun shy dog.

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it's people like you that make it harder for the law abiding hunters you should not even be allowed to own a animal. So a hawk comes for one of your puppies - what do you do - ask it nicely to fly away? for the most part when I have pups out one of the older dogs is out with it and if it's Small en...

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Johng918 wrote:it's people like you that make it harder for the law abiding hunters you should not even be allowed to own a animal.

So a hawk comes for one of your puppies - what do you do - ask it nicely to fly away?

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a GSP or pointer

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I just thought I'd mention that shooting an eagle, hawk, or owl is a violation of federal law (migratory bird treaty act MBTA). As a federal biologist I'll tell ya I really don't think it's smart to discuss killing these birds or advocate killing them on this forum, regardless of your personal opin...

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Edited so no one goes to jail

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Thanks, I watched a video yesterday that illustrated exactly that. Using the bird as the Whoa and causing the dog to become staunch by releasing the bird as the dog got close. It should work pretty well with my Britt because he's got one heck of a nose and really gets birdy when he makes game. Real...

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Well at Ames they're going to have to point the birds, not run them over . Other than size, hair color and hair type, what qualities does a Brittany possess in the field that a GSP or Pointer doesn't or shouldn't? Well at Ames they're going to have to point the birds, not run them over ;). That's f...

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Aberdeen

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He'll establish the point himself, but he wants to be 3 ft from the bird before he goes into his point. And he won't hold very long which right now I don't mind (he's still a pup), but on live birds he'll never get that close without busting them will he. Is that something I should just let him fig...

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Chukar12, Don't mean to hijack either, but at what distance should I train my Britt to point and hold when using checkcord on birds. He is pretty good on Whoa everywhere at anytime (until a bird comes into the picture), so I'm using a checkcord and trying to steady him and whoa him farther back. So...

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slistoe wrote:Other than size, hair color and hair type, what qualities does a Brittany possess in the field that a GSP or Pointer doesn't or shouldn't?

Well at Ames they're going to have to point the birds, not run them over

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How come Cooper took so long to finish his FC? These answers will be interesting. I've known Cooper since he was a puppy, in fact I think I was judging when he finished his FC. I'm not inferring anything or even know the dog - just genuinely want to know. He gets bred a decent amount, but didn't fi...

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How come Cooper took so long to finish his FC?

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No one knows your dog better than you. If you feel he's ready for more experiences than go for it. Sounds like you know what you are doing as far as dealing with a problem. I may be misunderstanding the "problem " but I want my dog to relocate on his own when necessary, when hunting. . Because he c...

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Ok i will work on that, i guess i didnt use the ecollar because when i take it out she gets all excited because we are going hunting and i didnt want to ruin that! Thanks don't think of the collar as punishment, it's just to get them to listen. use the minimum number possible to get them to do that...

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I got my 8 month old gsp back from training about a month ago and when i got her back she was awesome always listened and responded quickly but she has seemed to slide off alittle, now even with the basic "here" command, she will look at me and basically gives me a finger, i now have to walk her on...

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Brazosvalleyvizslas wrote:It specifically says right on Ames website, English Pointers/English Setters not all pointing breeds.

I don't think it says those breeds only, just that those are who compete. I think if a GSP qualified by winning at the necessary trials they would let it run, it just hasn't happened.

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ezzy333 wrote:How many Britts do they allow in the GSP trials? They did not invite any to the invitational.

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I have no problem if it's an invitational with the top XYZ of the breed or national event (NFC, etc.). Weekend trials are another issue.

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I had my first birddog when I was 16. I trained him and had him pretty solid when I got on AKC's website and looked up a trial near by. It was a Britt trial. I called up to ask how to enter Harley and when they found out he wasn't a Britt the lady told me that I couldn't be expected to know it beca...

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Looks awesome!

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CANT WAIT!!!!

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Went out today and it was 4deg with 6-12" of snow + 10mph wind - cold! Probably should have booted him as his paws got pretty cold. He only lasted about 20 mins in the first field. Let him out again when it was 18deg or so and he did much better. 15 shouldn't be an issue - maybe get boots just in ca...

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I think we are all ready for the trial , then something happens in the trial that we didn't train for. I need to think "out of the box" more. I like to get them on wild birds as much as possible. Not even shooting most of the time with multiple dogs out. Almost everything imaginable happens, STF, h...

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I think we are all ready for the trial , then something happens in the trial that we didn't train for. I need to think "out of the box" more. I like to get them on wild birds as much as possible. Not even shooting most of the time with multiple dogs out. Almost everything imaginable happens, STF, h...

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Finally snowed in CO so might have a chance to get some pheasants tomorrow when I go out. There are 2 places I go, one will have about 6" and one about 3" - would the 6" be better for birds holding or is that too much snow? Or no difference really?

Thanks.

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Nice pics!

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Let it be a puppy. I'd start here & kennel around now and whoa in a few more months. Depending on how birdy your dog is I'd start introducing the shotgun via the Perfect Start method in an open field where it can see everything.

No commands or control on birds for a while or if it's running off.

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It's funny (odd) how views differ. I let my pups chase birds while I pretty much stand still. I wait to see a diminishment in the pup's chase enthusiasm .....which might take quite a lot of chased birds, this means to me that the birds are beginning to teach the pup that it cannot catch flying game...

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I read a few paragraphs from a training book, I can't remember the title or author right now. But I wanted to see what other people on this forum thought. Basically the author said that if you are out hunting (grouse) with a young pointer and he flushes a bird, you should not go after that bird, yo...

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Bluesky2012 wrote:Out of curiosity, I sent my dog off to the trainer. Is it customary to tip a trainer like you would for a guided hunt? What do y'all usually do?

No - the price is the price imo since they are the owner of the company.

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I prefer to heel them away, that way there is no confusion with a tap on the head or the motion of such when reaching down to collar.

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