Gun Dog Forum

Seabiscuit was a media darling for a short while but was, alas, a gelding.

I read the book

You may want to read it again. :roll:

ya, sue somebody thats the answer.

amen to that cooper. Dont know why we should expect anything different when it is pretty much the same cast of characters.

the castle doctrine would be a good name for a novel or movie.

50 broken tails? i have been around bird dog, cow dogs and mutts my whole life and have never personally seen a broken tail. i have seen some bloody tips and limber tail but i think the reason certain breeds are docked is because "thats the way we have always done it " . the perceived saftey aspect ...

IME males fighting is manageable, females fighting is serious business.

i agree with Neil on this, things are never perfect on wild birds and you take what you can get especially with a young dog. stay quite, get in gun range and take what you get. a good dog will start figuring out your in this together. i have never bought into the whole "retrieve is the reward" bit, ...

i like him.

even Wehle had a tough time defining inbreeding/linebreeding.

go to a trial and find out for yourself, better yet, enter one and see how you measure up. Its not rocket surgery

JKP, i dont get it? you dont trial, yet you make comments on every trial thread, usually thinnly veiled insults. if you are that obsessed with it, get some dogs that can do it and give it a try. I have no interest in VDD dogs so i dont read the threads or comment on them. why the obsession?

i have learned the most from internet message boards

I cant remember ever seeing a wirehair in the american field? i am sure there have been some on a weekend trials but i doubt it there is any that have won going the hour. the wirehair is a good breed but lets not build them into something they are not... even if there was one that won a all breed AK...

as a whole i think the britts have done well staying true to type. with all the DC's they have it has kept the britts looking like britts, for the most part.

nice looking pup

with construction contracts are a must have. people forget things both the contractor and client, their must be a scope of work to protect both parties. With dogs & livestock well, they die. if a breeder wont replace or refund find a new breeder. education is not free

this could be good, i hope it lives up to its billing. what has been peoples experience with sprtdog ecollars? i have never owned one, but i might have to now.

in my experience with both breeds, on average, generally speaking, setters have a bit more "juice"

what does the law say about shooting hens?

one bird does not a bird dog make.

i am no saint myself but to shoot a hen on purpose and then leave it lay just aint right in my book. And i dont have any idea how that relates to training on wild birds

i have seen the same kind of work from dogs on chukar and huns, only difference is the country they are found in.

your dog doesnt have the desire to retrieve a bird. there i said it, now what.

i understand Fetters Setters has some real good grouse dogs

now that is a test, head to head for three days most points win. i wonder how many of todays dogs would be weeded out

i think certain things can be passed on. i believe bob wehle touched on ir briefly in snakefoot.

probably locked because it was lame

dgfavor, do you think they would let birdogz and JKP run in any of those trials? they are both very interested in seeing a wild bird trial with pheasants

i have read in the american field of wild bird trials where the dogs are getting finds on pheasant and sharpies and huns (montana and idaho) or pheasant, huns, quail and chukar (robinson ranch). so anytime you want to give it a shot i am sure they would be more than happy to have you.

i like havelock setters

awesome pictures DGFavor, whats that saying i am thinking off? something about a pictures worth a thousand words.

so if you dont agree with the venue and dont think it proves a whole lot other than "run and point" why do you continue buying pups from these guys?

is anyone familier with this book or used some of his training techniques?

Has anyone owned or currently own a setter from his kennel?

so if a person wanted to start a breeding program should they just look to the trials for prospects? would you be wasting your time with NAVHDA and NSTRA dogs?

so would you say that breeders who are building there program on NSTRA dogs are wasting there time?