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nikegundog wrote:
Please be over 18 and under 90 to answer this, otherwise I don't believe for one second you have changed an opinion.
I see your not going to let Ezzy put his 2 cents in.

NOW THATS FUNNY

...ruth

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mcbosco wrote:Wow....BB is about $40 at Petco in NJ. That is a bummer. How long does 30lbs last for you?

We go through a 30 pd bag every 3 weeks for 1 dog ...gas is $1.15 a litre here.. which is $4.60 a gallon so i cant afford to drive to NJ to save the $25 bucks per bag

...ruth

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Ruth , Nothing wrong with your answer, that's why I didn't complain about it. And nothing wrong with my answer either. The only difference is you complained about mine. End of discussion. Ezzy Ezzy you cant end the discussion..I ALREADY DID :wink: and why are you out of your padded room :lol: :lol:...

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mcbosco wrote:$65 for 30lbs? Are the kibbles gold-plated?

Have you lived in Canada mcbosco

..tax is 13% believe me its reasonable..ruth

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Ezzy, nothing wrong with my answer..yes i do see where he asked what is in it!..he asked it by saying is it because of the nutrition(translation whats in it) hmm lets see lamb and rice and fruit.. is it the PRICE? mines $65 a bag for 30 pounds..which i find reasonable for my area.. WHAT kind of dog ...

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Ezzy, you are not understanding the original post once again!!!!!!..you are always ready to debate people and THEIR reasons for using certain foods..you stated SELDOM are dogs allergic to dog food..is that why so many foods are coming out with grain free products because they are NOT NEEDED?..thats ...

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Ruth, Rather than boring you with my experience's with the ecollar, I would suggest you order "The Perfect Start " video from Gun Dog Supply or Dressler's Supply. My dog's always have an ecollar (and Astro) on when in the field. I will even start indroducing the ecollar to them at 3 or 4 months old...

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Hello Grousehunter74...we use BLUE BUFFALO lamb and rice..reason is allergies mainly..it has NO WHEAT, SOY OR CORN in it which are the most common reasons for allergies in dogfood.. NO CHICKEN BY PRODUCTS OR MEAL..theres lots of fruit in it as well..its about $65 for a 30 pound bag.. he gets 4 to 5 ...

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Thanks for the tips. Sounds introducing him to live birds are the next step and I'll find out what he can do. That and now I need to get my wife accustomed to the idea of me getting a gun. Not sure which will be tougher. Hi RaiderArch, welcome to the forum :D ..this is a great place to talk to othe...

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I dont know who has seen this, but if not have a look at what a deer cam picked up!!..yikes :!: :!: ...ruth And my husband laughs at me when i say i would never hunt alone cause its creepy..now i know for sure i wont!! :lol: http://www.nbc33tv.com/news/nbc33-see-it-shoot-it-share-it-crazy-hunting-pic

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Ruth...First of all, congratulations for sharing your "addiction" or passion with your husband. My wife also share's my passion and is my best friend and hunting partner as well. (Will try to post a picture of her driving our "hunting rig" on another thread later). That being said, we've had bird d...

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10 more days until pup comes home!!!..Seriously cannot wait..sleepless nights, poop/pee cleaning off the floor, all the good stuff :lol: :lol: ..i noticed alot of members are expecting new additions to the family :mrgreen: ..geez my blood pressure cant take much more of this anticipation!!..IM RUTH ...

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Very heartwarming..hunters and their bird dogs have a SPECIAL bond unexplainable to others!!...ruth

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No Ruth, it isn't bad as that is the way it was done before e-collars. She is just a throwback to the old days. Probably got it from her Mom. :wink: Sorry but it was such a good straight line I couldn't resist. Ooops they are here to put me back in my padded room. :oops: Ezzy :lol: :lol: Ya i set y...

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The passion you all have and the knowledge is so apparent and appreciated..i have learned and am still learning so much from these posts and other posts on the forum..the difference in training is GREAT in my opinion!!..i take from each of you something which will benefit me and my pup!!..the people...

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Sorry for throwing my 2 cents in here without reading all the posts but just the original question..our 2 setters..one bench and one field..one from jim gourley in kansas(field setter female from "shades") and the other from a showline from leamington..they look NOTHING alike..i wish i could figure ...

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Forgive me for being blunt but some of these posts are just the type that really burn my a@! on this website. Much of the puppy work can be done by a novice or amateur as some of you pro trainers like to call us. There is absolutely no reason to scare a newbie and make them think they are going to ...

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@Tommyboy72..thanks alot for taking the time to explain your training..i am jealous you have access to so many birds :twisted: ..i sure hope to move so we can as well..we dont get out as much as we would like to..i am a very open minded person and i think theres more than one way to "skin a cat"..so...

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Any news on that litter and did you pick a pup from the other breeder?...ruth

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@Winchey..thanks for the post, i like to hear about other methods of equipment..citranella is one i never heard of for training other than for barking..interesting..just goes to show ya different things work for different people :D ...ruth @Ezzy..no problem i know you dont mean to be short with me.....

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i think i have a basic understanding what the proper use is but still like to see how people introduce it, continue using it or dont use it at all..i just have not seen it always used the way it was intended to be used and wanted to try something else.. ruth, check out these vidoes. they explain th...

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I don't think either of you sre understanding the proper use of an e-collar, what it used for, when it is used, or how it is used and what it does for your dog. Till there is some understanding of those basic principles I doubt if you can understand why it is used. Ezzn I think we are more intellig...

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Ruth I think all have seen the collar used wrong and like any force applied without training and pre-conditioning it is detrimental. A wing and a string, or a sock, rag, stuffed animal on a string....pretty much anything playing keep away with a pup will get them to point. Too much will create bad ...

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I train on wild birds, raise them on wild birds and hunt wild birds. Last summer I did try some pen raised chukar but they are not nearly as effective as wild pheasant and quail. I personally have NEVER EVER EVER had to break a dog from chasing or flushing birds that were trained on wild birds and ...

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I began training my first pointing dog (GSP) this year as well. I started him on a few pigeons from a launcher and then maybe 15 quail from the launcher as well. A few birds per session and with the pup on a checkcord the entire time. I then turned him loose on woodcock and even though he had perfo...

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For those that don't understand how the ecollar is used, every dog is thoroughly trained using the OLD WAYS . I t is only for the final polish, after the dog will perform every other task on and off lead, that the ecollar is overlayed and the dog conditioned to it. After that, for me, it's there as...

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I don't start my dogs out sight pointing I included it might not be right well...you told me, I give up Right, so would it be right for me or anyone else to say you are wrong for not starting them on a string and a wing? No, that is how you do it and many others use the string and wing. Could my pu...

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Yes I use the command lead and teach points of contact on the neck and also teach a point of contact on the flank I have a strong base of the rick smith method. So when I do need do a command it is something that the dog already understands before we use it. Then as for age this really depends on t...

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northern cajun wrote:
RayGubernat wrote:Ruth -

However you go about training your new dog, I urge you to do it in an organized fashion. The quote you should repeat to yourself every time you want to go work with the pup is

"Plan your work, then go out and work your plan."

I agree.

ME TOO!!

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Gundogs No matter how a person trains Foundation is primary I prefer to have the e collar so when a dog elects to not do what the training habits we tried to build they can be reminded to do such.. The form I use the e collar is to be like cues so when and ONLY WHEN a dog needs to be cued I can do ...

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Ezzy, no where in my post did I say I was a better trainer or that my dog is a better trained dog. I know i'm not Ezzy, but you implied it right here: I think e collars are a great tool but harm our breeding in the long run. I use to use one on my previous dog (gsp) because of his stubborness. Most...

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Congrats on the new pup..shes gorgeous!!..one thing that amazes me though :o ...how on earth did you keep this a secret for so long!! i always end up giving my kids most of their christmas gifts early cause i cant keep a secret im excited about :lol: ...good for you and thats great how close you and...

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Ezzy, i know you were being sarcastic regarding me shipping the dog instead of driving or walking i just didnt want to get into a conventional debate..i am only 38 years old so not so experienced or knowledgeable on many things..but one thing i will tell you since you commented that i DONT live the ...

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Ruth, I understand what you are saying, I think e collars are a great tool but harm our breeding in the long run. I use to use one on my previous dog (gsp) because of his stubborness. Most other countries don't use them and their dogs come out just great, if not better. This is due to breeding, her...

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Ezzy, as i said in my original post i wanted info from people who train with or without them to get info about techniques they might use BEFORE introducing the collar or even from people who have not introduced them AT ALL also from people who use them and their reasons as well..i am very aware of t...

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We are heading over to ROOSTER RANCH in ubly michigan..they are open until april 30th..excellent group of people there..and we can get our dog talking fix :twisted: ...not that i dont get it here but i am ADDICTED so the more people to talk to the better :lol: ..heading over with 3 other people so s...

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The breeder said at one point that she had been xrayed and confirmed, but she didn't say anything about going back to the vet again. Another breeder I talked to was very concerned that she wasn't going in for more xrays or a c-section. Fortunately after talking to the other breeder he has some amaz...

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Gundogs, I have a 10 month old britt/gsp cross that I have yet to use an ecollar on. I am trying to train him without one and so far it has worked. I have been out hunting with him a few times and he does great but sometimes he gets distracted, could be his age. You have to make sure he is well beh...

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Ezzy, you are another one who should put all of your stories of experiences together and write a book..i dont mean to sound corny but when i hear stories like that i can picture it and want to hear more..theres a few other people on here that have done and seen so much and have so much insight to sh...

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Let me make one more off subject to Ruth who staed: ) dont really want someone judging us on how GOOD our dogs are.. Anytime you show or trial your dog all you are doing is paying for someone's elses opinion of your dog. The reason this is needed is you become kennel blind. When you see your dog ev...

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if one dog in a thousand learns that by chasing birds he can make them fly and thats enough for him to get his jollies. Would you want to take that chance with your dog? Do you think that any one with that experience is going on gun dog forum and saying they failed. I think you are only going to he...

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Ryman gun dog, Dave..yes we are planning on totally relocating..i know where Elk Lake is its about 10 hours from where i live now!! Very nice area up there..where we will hopefully be moving we will be about 5 hours towards Elk Lake so hopefully more wild birds like you said :D ..i agree i wouldnt w...

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If your dog screws up within a few minutes or a few seconds it's over but don't know what imaginary line your talking about. :?: :?: Really you can show up and after a few minutes its over!!!..can someone explain the process a little better please or even pm me if you dont want to post it..i want a...

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For sure it can be peanut butter..or any food for that matter..but if in your journal you notice the timing of pbutter and the seizures i think you might be on to something..a food allergy can definitley trigger a seizure ..when i worked at an animal hospital one of the first things we asked owners ...

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If your dog screws up within a few minutes or a few seconds it's over but don't know what imaginary line your talking about. :?: :?: Really you can show up and after a few minutes its over!!!..can someone explain the process a little better please or even pm me if you dont want to post it..i want a...

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If 2 vets dont know i feel silly even commenting but it sounds to me like a flea allergy..do you have any pics to post?..i went to school for an animal care aide and when i worked at a vet hospital we would see scabs quite often which was usually an allergy to flea bites...also consider the shampoo ...

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I know for my husband and i we have 5 daughters and could hardly find time to go for walks with the dogs in the past because he was on midnights..now we own our own company and can take more time away and midnights arent an issue!!..we are for the first time going to become members of the GRANDRIVER...

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I would assume the breeder is going to have her xray to see if there are any pups..i wouldnt contact buyers and getting anyone concerned until i had her to the vet to be sure..ive never had a litter before but i have been around other people who have and they seem to always get the pregnancy confirm...

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Let the pack out this morning to go potty i started digging my way to the kennel took 30 mins to get there then another 1 1/2 to clean out the kennels then i started looking for the dogs there no where to be found ! my wife had let them in because they were begging to go in side :mrgreen: Now thats...

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They have swimming pools in Canada? No way. I'd clean out the chemicals and stock it with a few trout, ice fish a couple a times in the winter. :P of course we have pools in canada right next to the igloo, past the ski hill :lol: ...its a salt water pool we have so i could stock it with redfish and...

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