Gun Dog Forum

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I had a sport forever, worked great, but i lost the transmitter, so I bought a new classic 70. Put it on the lowest setting and dog got pretty vocal with just a nick, took it off and used it on myself felt like a pretty sharp pinch and that was through my jeans. On the old collar the lowest setting ...

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he's by FAR the most biddable dog I've ever owned...but in addition to being a giant hairball he is also very vocal. When I was forcefetching him he sounded like someone had gut shot chewbacca everytime I even looked at his ears

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yep, I have one of them wookies too

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Sharon wrote:Hope I don't have to find out if my coyote spray works on a cougar.

Is that code for .223 or #4 buck?

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I don't want to read too much into the statement that you have only had to shock him a few times. But all too often people use the ecollar as a "last resort"; waiting until they are frustrated and then shocking the dog. If the dog hasn't been taught what the correction means they will shut down. The...

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All I can tell you is that my WPG sheds far far less than my DD (GWP with a better accent). Despite both having wirehair and getting the same grooming treatment

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I am a little late to this post, but I have a lab a WPG and a DD. The WPG hardly sheds at all. But their coat is not maintenance free, they need to be stripped at least twice a year. That means pulling out all the gaurdhairs. My griff has one of the tightest coats of any griff I have seen and he is ...

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I eat what I kill... and I ain't about to eat a Coyote It makes me sad to see the elitism that has worked it's way into hunting and fishing. I refer to it as the "river runs through it effect" Once people saw brad pitt chucking feathers for trout, it suddenly became a "spiritual" experience. Often ...

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"That being said, I find the biggest stump to sciences' inability to disprove the existence of a "Creator," or whatever you wish to call it, extremely fascinating. That stump being the fact that science has been unable to figure out where that first molecule came from. In my eyes, I think the proce...

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Being wired the way I am, I find it confusing when the two sides of this debate inevitably move to two basic arguments. Being created by God makes us the boss...pass the meat. vs. Wolves just need a hug...animals have feelings too, have some tofu. There is something broken in me that can't understan...

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GunDogs, However you must remember we are talking Ryman & Gordon Setter dogs here, some other dog breeds still have an agression test in Europe. I think these threads have a lot of good discussion. I don't personally agree that the euro systems breed dogs that have more people sharpness. Have you e...

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windswept wrote:I'll start.
it would be foolish to BLINDLY trust any large, high prey drive dog unsupervised with a small child.
Tom

agreed

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i just cannot and would not keep a dog i cant 100% trust with every person or dog that lives or comes into my home I posted in the other thread about my daughter. It was the worst day of my life. But the single most important thing it taught me is that I will never trust any dog 100%. That was the ...

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it took two seasons of lots of birds before my WPG figured out running birds. The first year and a half he would do what you are describing, run a ground scent until he ripped the bird out. I think it will take care of it's self with more time and birds. Is your dog broke to flush? In my experience ...

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I agree a nip is not a bite, I also agree that not all bites are the same. Only the owner knows what is really going on. When my father put down the GSP that bit my daughter, he bawled. He loved the dog. He did not kill the dog in anger, or for revenge. He killed the dog because he knew he would nev...

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Put her down. It almost brings me to tears to think about, but, I speak from experience when I tell you that you were lucky. when my daughter was 3 we were camping with my parents. Both of their dogs were there, family dogs that had known and been around my kids since my kids were born. Bubba was a ...

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Thanks guys, it was a great trip. Taking them both out for quail this weekend, will see if the pheasant work translates

hoof wrote:Where is Vader from, he has the same look (and prey drive) as my DD Kaiser out of Vom Buffeltaller.
CHAZ

Vom Redrock....pedigree

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facing a 16 hour drive to the prairies, the conversation between my hunting partner and I quickly turned to the 3 dogs we had in the bed of the truck. My griff, Woz, was just about to turn 2. I explained to my partner that I was considering selling the dog. I recently purchased a DD pup, Vader, who ...

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I would think it would be easier if you didn't try and train range and break the dog at the same time. I would break him on a checkcord, walk him cross wind into the launcher when he makes scent, wait until he breaks, pop the bird and use the CC to set the dog back. you can also add a second launche...

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which preserve are you going to? The only place I would recommend for a pup is hicken's (pleasant valley). it is out in uintah basin, great cover and more importantly I have never had a dog catch a bird there. There are a lot of preserves in Utah that have really horrible birds...so bad that I wont ...

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my WPG needs < 60* to hunt for more than an hour at a time. My DD is still young, but has a tight coat and small build and seems to get 10-15 degrees more than my griff.

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Thom, I think we hunt the same birds along the wasatch and my dog struggled with forest grouse a bit too. did you woah train with an ecollar? I found that teaching stop to flush with the eollar really helped. I could still use pigeons but b/c we were working on the upwind side of the birds he did no...

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I tried a bowl, but the birds would try and perch on it and end up tipping it. They don't carry the one I have any more, but it is similar to this.

http://www.gundogsupply.com/pc-w-kit-waterer.html

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I use that trap, it took me a while to figure out the best way to set-up at a new location. I use a pie-tin, fill it with feed and set it so the bobs rest in the pie tin. If I go back and the feed is gone, but the trap is empty, I move the pie tin back into the trap and refill. This seems to be the ...

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I think a dog will you tell you when it is ready....if the dog is giving you the finger in the field..it's time. I have never had a pup that was ready at 3-4 months. I am more worried about putting confidence and range into them at that age. Ok, so that takes me back to my worry about a run away do...

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I think a dog will you tell you when it is ready....if the dog is giving you the finger in the field..it's time.

I have never had a pup that was ready at 3-4 months. I am more worried about putting confidence and range into them at that age.

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Good luck, I ordered a Baikal this week (now that I know it is not an 11 pound beast). If you look at these guns be aware that the sport model 310 has a right-handed palm swell, but the regular 310 does not.

For the price I figured I might as well give the gun a chance.

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I have seen more harm done by hunters who throw the e-collar on for the first time when they are hunting. Collar condition in the yard. Evan Graham has a youtube video showing how to collar condition with using come, a CC and a e-collar. e-collars need to be transitioned, use both in the yard until ...

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I am right handed/left eye dominant and I shoot lefty- both eyes open That said I have always had RH'ed guns...I don't own any fancy guns and I have never had a gun fitted, but I seldom have problems hitting birds (at least not problems that I can blame on the gun). Some guns just don't point right...

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I am right handed/left eye dominant and I shoot lefty- both eyes open That said I have always had RH'ed guns...I don't own any fancy guns and I have never had a gun fitted, but I seldom have problems hitting birds (at least not problems that I can blame on the gun). Some guns just don't point right ...

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I also found about 20 bob-whites up past Dolores this year. I am sure they were released training birds, but they were in a nice covey that my DD busted almost daily for a week while we were there.

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Greg: Does your game birds don´t live in woods at all over there? Or is it just tradition to only hunt in fields? The U.S. is large and diverse. We have many, many different species of game birds and it'd be hard to characterize them all. But, to my knowledge, ruffled grouse and wood cock are the f...

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pigeons. They learn the game pretty quick. Get the dog on some wildbirds and I bet the problem goes away

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This is one of the most interesting threads I have read on GDF, Thanks for posting.

I would love to see some video of reporting. It is not something I have ever seen done in the US. Never even heard of it until now.

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It obviously depends on the dog, but 9 months is still a pup...I like to let my dogs have a season under their belt before I start asking them for too much. The trick is that I expect them to be a stupid pup for a whole year, and so I don't try and handle them and give them commands right and left. ...

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I have been seeing more rattlesnakes this year than I ever have, I decided to put my 2 year old griff through snake avoidance training. I am wondering if my 5 month old DD is too young? I can't find anyone who does it locally so it's going to be a decent drive, I'd love to get them both done, but I ...

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Mu guess is it is going to be a rough year this year, but I sent you a PM with some details. if you have a choice I would go later, crops went in late. I will be interested to see what the forecasts look like for the area.

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nice post...I just got my DD and I am also excited. What kennel is your pup out of?

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yeah watching the video his sit is sloppy, I think it happened when we transitioned to fetching from the ground, that "side-saddle" sit is him trying to lie down in slow motion. It is something I will have to work on. When he has the bumper in his mouth I am removing pressure from the ear against th...

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It has gotten better, I started forcing him last week...transitioned from a paint roller to a bumper after a couple of days and tonight we started transitioning to the ground. He is usually pretty vocal at the beginning of each session, but he knows what is expected and responds to very little press...

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I thought it was much better..He really felt more like you meant it...I tend to do shorter periods of hold, with a little more praise. Does not mean you need to be this harsh all the time, but he really needed to know he has to do it your way. Thanks, I feel good about it. I will make sure we are s...

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I see some major issues with your video. Smacking a dog during FF is not good. I am not oppossed to smacking one, but this isn't the place. You have too much going on. You need to secure the dogs neck and the rear ( i do so with a D-ring collar around neck and flank), and adjustable chains. The nex...

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Well, cuffing him didn't seem to be getting through. And I didn't want to increase the pressure of the correction because I could tell he was shutting down. So instead I placed my left hand over the muzzle while placing the roller in his mouth with my right. I could then hold his head in place and c...

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Here is his pedigree

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I may be way off base here so take it FWIW, but this is one case when I think I would move to the next step and start fetch with pressure. When he comes forward and grabs it, keep him moving down the table until released to hand. Over lay the ear pinch with the e-collar. If he continues wanting to ...

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Your not suppose to push you Bump him and get his attention it is all in the timing how to do it..I would suggest you go back and read the book more careful as you really should stick with A method I just know what I do when I have a dog pulling that stunt on me and how I catch and stop it before i...

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Maybe try a leash and training collar and pop the lead enough to unweight his front feet. How is this dog with a bird in his mouth or do you dare? I'll give the leash thing a shot. He has a great natural retrieve and he will bring dead birds to hand just fine. He might mouth a little, but I don't r...

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What I would do is go back put in mouth and I bump Under the chin as soon as the head begins to play around I would not allow it to go as far as shown in the you tube video.. Thanks for the help....I actually didn't correct him right away because I was filming it, I wanted the problem to be clear i...

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I have a 18 month old griff, I am using smartfetch and have a question about mouthing. He took to hold really fast, after about 5 min he was lunging for the roller and would hold it until I commanded give, he will heel with it both on and off a lead. He knows it is a fetch object, and is eager to ta...

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So I picked up the new pup, and it is amazing to me how I always forget how much work a new one is. 10 weeks old and I am pleased so far, he has boat loads of confidence and doesn't seem scared of anything. He has already found and retrieved a dead starling for my wife. He is constantly hunting snai...

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