Gun Dog Forum

If thats not bragging I don't know what is. You're an even bigger blowhard than I thought. . I didnt think was being a blowhard, if it was true. Did I mention that I was 3rd on the team in receptions, and have 2 game balls? Also, you placing so much emphasis on a single insignificant run against a ...

A wild bird dog is developed by experience with wild birds. By a person that understands wild bird hunting. That simple. Trials of all types; Cover dog, wild grouse trials, NSTRA, AKC, AF, all give you a handle on the type of dog( That has produced that pup you want) and weather or not it has a ver...

You have no basis to argue so why do you bother commenting? I can darn sure argue the merits of breeding as it relates to trial vs hunting dogs. I owned a trial bred dog, remember? Ive been to 3 trials personally. Ive spoken to trialers, seen their dogs, and spoken of their dogs and testing. Should...

Overly Animated and athletic, Excited, GALLOPING dogs ranging out from 500-1200meters + (even outrunning horses), Often Outrun their noses and blew by Lots and lots of birds. VerY BiZarrE I know of NO canines, anywhere in the dog world, that track game at a full gallop running 30_+ mph. Not wolves,...

Ultra, I didn't mean to rub you the wrong way and I'll not say anything after this, but I just wanted to set the record straight that I'm not trying to train dogs just to make a few bucks. I've been training dogs since I was 12 and owned a mobile dog training business (just pet obedience) in the Da...

How many moons ago was that? Do you know the likes of Bob Pettit or Tom Schwertsfeger? Well I just got a male setter puppy so if you can wait 2 years, you can breed to him. :D Yahoo, you seem so "well versed" in everything. Just wondering who you are. An old man that ran in many trials years ago. W...

ElhewPointer wrote:Well I just got a male setter puppy so if you can wait 2 years, you can breed to him.

Yahoo, you seem so "well versed" in everything. Just wondering who you are.

An old man that ran in many trials years ago. When only 10 out of 50 dogs in AA stakes finished.

It would be hard to know who's who. Aftet watching Ferrel Millers video and the amount of pups that looked alike i can see why the mixup happened with him. It seems like he wanted to have many to select from. I have multiple females and once one comes into heat a bunch more will quickly follow. I c...

At some of the big pointer breeders it's similar. Keith Wright has about 50 young dogs all in a fenced in area maybe an acre with a couple sheds they live in for shelter. Sheds are like 12 X 12 storage type you can get at Lowes. Miller has same type set up for young dogs , as well as Huffmans.

If anyone thinks they are going to make money in this bird dog thing they are dreaming. If they consider all the time input in training, feeding, trialing, all their expenses, they will find loosing money comes much more frequently than making money. Define "make money." If you couldn't earn a livi...

Think about the time and expense involved. If they have to drive 11/2 hours one way to the Airport, Two trips. Pay for their fuel, feed and board the female for a couple weeks, breed the bitch. They have at least 8 hours into it and the other expenses. Then it takes away from the time they would be...

How do you know if it is not on the male? Males to go sterile all the time. I know Jet is older. Do you just automatically assume it was the female? Jim has been breeding him, all you need to do is ask if the bitches are having puppies. As far as I know there have been 2 litters born within the las...

Elkhunter wrote:

ACooper wrote:There are LOTS of folks with well known stud dogs that guarantee two-three live puppies when accepting stud fee.

+1

Right and if the bitch doesn't take you get a return trip to the stud dog for free.

This is especially true if the stud is with a pro. The reason being, most pros do not like to mess with it even if they get the stud fee. It takes a lot of time, another dog to care for, a trip to the airport or possibly 2, fuel, feed. Sorry, this makes no sense. Pros are in this to make money. Why...

That sounds like a lot of what ifs. How do you justify spending that kind of money to breed without getting something out of it. If i am just paying for breeding without anything else i might as well pay for me. At least i know i will get a ride and a smile. :lol: That is the risk of doing business...

Generally it takes three pups to make a legitimate breeding,if your bitch forked over 8 the last go around and it wasn't 4 years ago ............ one would assume that a breeding would net pups. I myself as well as others I know would hold the stud fee check under a magnet on the fridge until the w...

Is there a good place to look for offspring of Jetsetter? I have looked at Skyveiw Setters, thanks Rowdy. Call Jim Michaletz and ask him who he has bred Jet to recently. His number was in the field with a stud ad all winter. I know he has bred him 4 or 5 times since the 1st of the year. There is al...

Yahoo are you saying you will buy a pup for $800? SOLD i will put you on my list. Just kidding, thanks. I have a daughter out of Barkers Big Coon. Looks great but i dont let her run as she is a personal hunting dog. I would like a pup or maybe a couple to trial with. The pups from her last litter h...

Lots of good lookers guys thanks. I would have to stay in the middle usa but i still like ES pics. I have thought about Jettsetter Have to check more with the owner on price. I heard 1000 to 1500 to breed. Iam just a little guy thats alittle pricey for my wallet. Valadictorian is also in my thought...

Petroplex Hunter wrote:Shadow Oak Bo is tough to beat right now

Really? Never have heard of any of his pups winning a trial. He may be a great trial dog but it sounds like this guy is looking for a proven producer. Go to a dog that has produced a high % of winners. AF will give you the info on specific dogs.

There is a Setter stud producing dogs that are winning in all venues. From cover dog to West coast AA. They hunt, handle, are very fancy running and on point. American Field shows a win % of 26% of registered dogs have placed in trials. These are phenomenal numbers considering most registered dogs a...

Yesterday the heat Index hit 128 degrees in Iowa. I don't know if I have ever heard ff it that high before.

Brucelosis test 60.00 OFA Thankfully this is once but still 130.00. I'm glad to hear someone mentioning health tests. To me that is the first and foremost thing I want in a pup's pedigree, proven good hips going back several generations. Also, for setters anyway, I would like to see Certification f...

Highcotton
Then why wouldn't a person cull the Low style dog. Or at least castrate him. Surely they haven't bred him. Most Setter folks are tring to breed away from dogs that look like that when they are pointing.

Definitly call Vincent or Michaletz and get a Jetsetter pup.

solon wrote:Bill Holton, manager of the Cover Dog message board has an all black English Setter.

Solon

Bills dog is a cross between an E Setter and a Red Setter.

Looks like an Open Range pup.

Typing dog lineage is not that easy to follow so I'll start with an explanation.......... dogs are "By " a male and "Out of" a female.......You can build a tree and fill in the branches to see it as it would appear in pedigree form. So Jetsetter is By Ch High Definiton and out of Barnhill lacey, HD...

I am going to go on a limb and sa that if it is a jetsetter bred pup, it is not from Open Range kennel. If that pup is in oklahoma or kansas (aka....owner is from that region), odds are that the female is heavy in See Johnny Run or TM Patriot. Jason Patty of skyview setters has bred to jet a few ti...

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CC, Very hard to tell with just the one picture straight on as it is, can't tell exactly how big the dogs is, and what his conformation is really like, and at what age. It looks like an orange belton but some Lynn Hill dogs do, and they are not Ryman stock, need more pictures to be sure. RGD/Dave I...

After watching alot of dogs,and how they are being put up,and then having two young pups(5 months) I ask this simple question. Which would you want to own,and put up for a win. A dog who is a nice stylish dog who is consistant,runs foward and finds alot of game,or the on the edge,big running dog wh...

Jetsetter has TMS through sire and Dam. Sire; High Definition, was by See Johnny Run (TMS son) X Touch of Sundrop (Sire was Brick Church Sundrop out TMS).

Dam was Barnhill Lacy who was out of One Destined (Sire was Destinare) X Sunsetts Breeze (Sire was TMS)

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