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Francois P vd Walt

Imo most trainers start out to soft a then go over the top, I include myself not as a trainer rather as a handler. One looses your temper then go to hard this could damage your dog if he is soft, on birds and food there is no boundry in a natural environment this could mean death. Eg. In a pride if ...

Francois P vd Walt

Just a recap : I started walking with pup everyday first walking following pup as soon as I saw pup was getting confidant I started walking in a square or away from pup. Today she chased a dove flying low passing by and got lost I retrned to the vechicle called a couple of times 10min later pup arri...

Francois P vd Walt

Trialing can be the same as gambling if you give it a go and win, or see you have a good dog, you will be back !

Francois P vd Walt

You need a woman. 8) ( just kidding you.) I'd hold off on discipline for this pup for now. Any human contact is to be encouraged. Honey, I am a woman! :lol: .......................................................................... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: Hmmm No I won't say anything mor...

Francois P vd Walt

IMO Trialing is importend if you looking for a dog or breed dogs, you can see a whole lot of dogs their style working ability etc.

Hunting I find many guys not really care in training the dogs well, cause time out for both are limited.

Francois P vd Walt

Not knowing Britts that well I can not tell, however all other gundogs I have had or seen have not acted like this at the relevant ages !
They should have confidence and a pleasing nature .....

OR
The pup had very little human contact.

Francois P vd Walt

How many guys out there start hunting then trialing and end back up hunting and why ?

Francois P vd Walt

Stoneface what made you change from shorthairs to pointers ?
Couldn't you match your first out of Dixieland ?

Francois P vd Walt

Toss it one time with her on a check cord and be sure she come's back to you with it. If she drops it on the way back, reel her in and go pick up the dummy and put it away. Once she does get back to you with it, throw it one more time and put it away no matter what happen's. Get it done right a cou...

Francois P vd Walt

ultracarry wrote:You should be fine as long as its a good kennel.

+1 Sometimes it is better for their health to be confined.

Francois P vd Walt

E collar is just to enforce commands once a dog knows them. Imo long term if you can do without a collar do without, if you going to use a collar use it all the time. Dogs learn they can do what they want without a e collar, untouchable they become without it, and that is a bad situation to be in . ...

Francois P vd Walt

Another update ! Pup runs well and now keeps contact without recalling, just walking away from pup and changing direction all the time. Within a week a BIG change ! 20min a day keeps the pro trainers away, Ha ! Only when we have to many birds flying around pup gets away a little, then I sit down and...

Francois P vd Walt

The birds must be trofee material, they are a certan keeper this way ! Ha !

Francois P vd Walt

Lovely foto, when they start pointing and realize you likebwhat they do, they start to point anything that can move... funny

Francois P vd Walt

I miss SA. Seems like another life when I was over there. Not there for long but beautiful contry, though in 1996 it was in some tremendous upheaval. I do enjoy SA ! 5min from work and my dogs can run on birds we have birds everywere ! Waterfowl aplenty, not to mamy permit stories, and not to many ...

Francois P vd Walt

What I have learned from this also is once pup reacts never walk in a straight line, or follow pup walk in a square or away from pup. He has to learn to follow you !

Francois P vd Walt

I just wanted to share I got 2 pups fron Charlie Rose http://www.wildrosegermanshorthairs.com/ a total of three pups now. I am very happy with the pups they will help us in SA that like something special and not the normal linger longer dogs. Thanks Charles for jumping through all the hoopes the get...

Francois P vd Walt

Dominance for sure and be sure to give a negative body language !
Look at nature what does a female do when a male wants to mount her when she is not in season ! Look and learn.

This has gone all the way south to S Africa ! Ha !

Francois P vd Walt

Good lookin pup, sweet face !

Francois P vd Walt

If a dog takes 24 months and still not responding to recall ? Could this be a training error or handler error ?

Some dogs take a long time to develop, how long is to long ?

Francois P vd Walt

QuailHollow wrote:
Mr. JFH wrote:Last one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QHePmBG ... ata_player
If *THAT* was honoring, I'll have my Master Hunter titles in NOT TIME FLAT.

+1 they only showed some interest once the saw the box/bird. Ha !

Francois P vd Walt

Anyone that needs more info please send a email to
francois.fatboy@gmail.com for more info on bird hunts, game also available

Cheers
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Francois P vd Walt

Mr. JFH wrote:Last one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QHePmBG ... ata_player

This is even more funny !

Francois P vd Walt

I don't use an e-collar and I am now struggling a bit due to advancing years and health problems and can no longer run a dog down. This prompts me to ask , what is meant by "overlaying" with the e-collar ? It is probably high time I tried to do this before I pop my clogs trying to catch a wayward d...

Francois P vd Walt

Cajun Casey wrote:Ahhh, the Pinto. Keep the cost down, keep the weight down, regardless of the consequences. Oh, and a human life is worth $200,675.

Don't do YouTube myself, but, then, I never needed it.

Tim Nokes said protein is the way to keep weight down !
The pinto is a great horse ! Hz

Francois P vd Walt

It is the way things are going ! YouTube, dvd, web, etc.

It is always good to watch how others do it, if one think you know it all, imo you have lost !

Francois P vd Walt

ACooper wrote:
Mr. JFH wrote:ExpertVillage seems to have some pretty good videos on gundog training..... (SARCASM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTV9QrNtUtM&sns=em

Hey they are pretty good... for a laugh.

+2 very funny ! Ha !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBwxxTAd ... ata_player

Francois P vd Walt

Depends on how old the pup is? 8 weeks i use treats, and alot of praise if he comes. 6 months, If i have to chase him he better run till i can no longer find him cause he is getting a beatin when i do. A e collar on high works pretty well also, reinforces that when called the pup better be running ...

Francois P vd Walt

Depends on how old the pup is? 8 weeks i use treats, and alot of praise if he comes. 6 months, If i have to chase him he better run till i can no longer find him cause he is getting a beatin when i do. A e collar on high works pretty well also, reinforces that when called the pup better be running ...

Francois P vd Walt

Just curious on how you guys teach your pup to come when you call him ? :roll: Looks like we all agree to this one thing doesn't what it takes snacks, rope, e collar THE DOG MUST COME WHEN YOU CALL ! And start slowly make friends give lotsa love enforce more or less in that order also taking pups m...

Francois P vd Walt

Just curious on how you guys teach your pup to come when you call him ? :roll: Looks like we all agree to this one thing doesn't what it takes snacks, rope, e collar THE DOG MUST COME WHEN YOU CALL ! And start slowly make friends give lotsa love enforce more or less in that order also taking pups m...

Francois P vd Walt

I think you are asking for trouble and a lot of disappointment if you try to put a schedule or time on a pup. No two are the same and many not even close. Ezzy I agreed and disagree basics dicipline should at least be in place by 7 months IMO. Also I know EP take longer to mature than GSP's. Now al...

Francois P vd Walt

I am curious to know at what age should the basics be in place with the different gundog breeds ?

Recall - 6 months
Pointing - 4-6 months
Retrieving - 6–8 months
Stay & sit & whoa - 6 months

Francois P vd Walt

Sounds the pup has drive likes birds maybe still little immature. Agree to only have been exposed to visual birds by what I read. Maybe hide birds in thick grass in a cage then he will have to start using nose, he has to learn on his own he can not catch those birds that fly away ..... Good luck rem...

Francois P vd Walt

Just curious on how you guys teach your pup to come when you call him ? :roll:

Francois P vd Walt

So often I have seen the runt of the litter not only be the best dog also the best looking !

Feed her well enjoy her growing up, remember never to forget to have fun !

Francois P vd Walt

Just a update - the pups played around sniffing chasing butterflies stopped pointed and whoopee out flies a bird !
Now pup points scent and everything in sight, new game and my boss likes it ! Ha
http://gsp-bullet.blogspot.com/ go read more and see picture

Francois P vd Walt

I guess you could say "heck of a salesmen", some of those guy's are great. But is it possible that someone had to get rid of a fully trained dog for some reason and couldn't bring himself to sell it? I know if I had to get rid of my boy's now, I couldn't sell them. I'd rather feel I found them a go...

Francois P vd Walt

Whatever you do were ever you go, remember to ha fun !

Nothing has changed on the dog side they still hunt use their noses, chase etc.
It will come back to you nothing beats consistancy and love .... good luck.

Francois P vd Walt

AzDoggin wrote:Man, if you can keep that tail wagging throughout training - you've got a special pup right there.

Always nice if you have dogs that WANT to please !

Francois P vd Walt

In both EP and GSP they breed for both big running and close working, depending on what you want. That is why it is so importend to get the right dog for your needs, if you like big running great if you like close great just make sure you get the right dog ! I have seen EP and GSP dogs swim and retr...

Francois P vd Walt

We have very little dvd or visual training material....... but lots of wild birds. Ha !

Francois P vd Walt

Having mastered the sit command it very usefull, you can stop your dog anywere at any time before he gets into trouble. Far easier to sit him down when he gets to the birds wait for you to get there then work the birds with close supervision, this also helps for corrections cause you THERE. Sorry b...

Francois P vd Walt

"Wing on a string" was the tip-off, Evan. But let's incorporate your "improving (retriever) hunt tests" thread elsewhere and the formal obedience training suggested here, along with rooster'smom's comment that "'Sit'" is totally optional unless you have a retriever (lab, chessie)" - and ask, now th...

Francois P vd Walt

What usualy works well is playing retrieving games when he is really really likes the games start hiding the retrieving toy/dummy. The rest sounds good to me, the only other thing I have noticed when doing retrieves don't always do it on a terrain were he can see were the dummy falls. Make sure he l...

Francois P vd Walt

birddogger wrote:I am still trying to figure out how you are coming up with these numbers. :roll:

Charlie

What I mean when most people buy a e collar they dont no how to use it, and random use doesn't work consistancy is needed.

The numbers is a figure of speech.

Francois P vd Walt

Francois, don't think any of it's in Afrikaaner but you can go here to your heart's content for training material http://www.bowwowflix.com/ Maybe your buddy Ivan down in Delaware can translate... :wink: MG Figured you noticed the language barrier and then also the funny english. Ha ! I do read eng...

Francois P vd Walt

pointshootretrieve wrote:Maybe a gundog forum library is in order??? The borrower pays shipping both ways and agrees to the lender's conditions.

+1 That is what I want to do, there are many guys out there with books, dvd or pdf format that could share or rent out !

Francois P vd Walt

There must be a bunch of guys with used programs, not used programs, that are willing to sell them on ?

Francois P vd Walt

Anyone that has a program and is done with it, I could buy ?
Send me pm for more detail ?

Evan Geaham, Johann Kaan, Huntsmith .....

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