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Thanks I realized why I quit posting on here

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I'm using Jonesy in Ky he close to you I'm very pleased with his work he keeps you updated on the progress and helps you understand what he's doing and how he's doing it. I would recommend him to anyone

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If you add all the time and equipment needed and birds used it comes out cheaper to buy pup and have someone train it you come out ahead. Equipment cost is roughly 1500 and birds another 500

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Ray I would have to disagree on that I don't have time to break a dog but I have the time to keep him broke. The nearest Bird field from me is 40 minutes I work 12 hours a day 5 days a week. I can work around the house but no Bird work so I chose to go with a pro to break him and I will work him 3 o...

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Ok an accident is an accident they were honest about it take the stud fee. I've been in dogs a long time and 1000 dollar stud fee for an unproven male is unheard of. Now if I were the female owner I'd have a problem with what happened because now you sold pups that were misrepresented but no harm wo...

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Training With Mo its a well written training guide. Mo is on here willing to help and Jonesy lives in Ky so you would be able get help if needed. It is also easy to follow

Another is Delmar Smith book it is also well written and easy to follow. This book is a little harder to find but it worth find.

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Well it did it again now I wasn't real big on programs when I started it was a lot of hands on and mistakes. Now that I've done it a few times I'm going to admit it is much easier to follow a program than try with out if you have an open mind. If you have someone to mentor you even better but if you...

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I'll second Jonesy and Maurice you may have a little wait to get a dog to them

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I have ran in and judged beagle trials. The gallery is on foot and can follow the race as long as they stay behind the field marshal. The judges are in charge but the marshal is there to keep order in the field. The last thing you want as a judge or handler is for the gallery to stop on a rabbit tra...

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Mine and most I hunt with adjust to cover. My older dog is an 80 yard dog. My younger dog is not broke yet but he has hit 300-400 yards in open cover and in the woods he is about a 100-150 sometimes closer. The older one was broke by someone that runs hunt test I can tell he has been hacked in for s...

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They are wound a little tighter than most. I have two that split between house and kennel once your through the puppy phase they are like most all sporting dogs. If range is the most important thing for you a flushing dog would probably be best for you. But like I said in my post before in my opinio...

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I like German Shorthaired Pointers with that said it hard to beat a good Pointer most will have more range than your comfertable with. But once they are holding birds there is nothing better than topping a hill or going over a raise and seeing your dog standing a covey of quail or standing a grouse ...

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Well this post went real bad fast and it was put here to help new people under stand that it is important to pick one way of training and stick to it. I've been around birddogs for about 15 years and I'm still new to them. And until someone took the time to help me understand what I was doing I trul...

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Start now. I'm not talking formal training just take the pup any where you can expose the pup to a lot of different things . A bold confident pup will be more likely to forgive any mistakes you make in training. As far as training programs pick one you understand and stick to it a good many people w...

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My suggestion is to get a good program and follow it. I like Training With Mo it is a good program for softer dogs. As far as hunting if he were mine I would still have a check cord on him till I was 100% sure he would listen every time no questions. Then transfer it to the e-collar but that is just...

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My suggestion would be to go watch as many different trials as you can. I chose NSTRA because it fit what I have for dogs point solid, back, and reterive your scored against all the other dogs in 5 different things.

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I asked the question because I had three different judges tell me two different things. Two are national judges and judge a lot of national events they both said once the bird clears shot it so next trial I'm in a safety is called the brid clears so I shot knocked the bird down dog retervies the jud...

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I was looking for the gray rule I knew the black and white rule. I've had three judges tell me two different things. Two asked why I didn't shoot after the bird cleared so next trial the judge called a safety and after the bird cleared I shot and he took the whole bird from me. So now if a safety is...

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That's what I was looking for

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If you call a safety and then the bird clears and you shoot dose the reterive still count.

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If I flush the bird toward the judge and I call safety or the judge calls safety do I still get full reterive points if I shoot

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I'd like too see the other videos

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Well guys one of the best things I've done so far is taking a few short videos and looking at my self as well as the dog and having a friend look at and tell me what his thoughts were on them. He also gave me away to move forward and keep making progress

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OK I've already have a program. The post was about mixing and matching and about watching it all come together to where the dog and you have a complete understanding of the program. I'm using training with Mo but when I read the book and followed the program something was missing it is a very good l...

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Don I glad you mentioned reading a dog. There is a lot of confusion about that when I read a dog I read the whole dog eyes, ears, posture, the way it moves, how it moves. There is a lot to reading a dog. Also the amount of pressure you put on a dog. I was training with a guy about 3 years ago when I...

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A lot of new owners ask for a program to follow. Here are my thoughts on this pick a program that you understand and follow that program. There are some good and some that will get you by. Now before I here is that good trainers adapt to the dog you are correct they do but they stick to the program ...

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It took talking to someone to make he think about it. I've spent the last 2 years chasing ribbons in place of enjoying all the dog work and memories. I would not trade anything I have for any amount of ribbons. Not saying I won't trial anymore just enjoy it a lot more

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Well I'll start this off talking to someone yesterday on the phone I realized I may never own a great dog but I will own good dogs with great times. Like my wife's first double on a covey raise, my son's first chucker at 35 steps my 5 year old daughter asking if she can work dogs my oldest daughter ...

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What are you looking to do. There are several options I run NSTRA I the in Illinois region they had 13 trials in the fall season. Check NSTRA web site go to regions and the scedulewill come up. Go watch and ask questions

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With all the programs and DVD and books available today. Please choose a program that you understand because if you don't understand it neither will the dog. The better you understand the easier it is to teach the dog. Training with Mo is one of the best but that is just my opinion. One other thing ...

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I've been thinking about this for a few minutes. I'm proud of my service to my country USMC 1990-1994, but I know form past experience that this time of year is hard to be away from family and loved ones. So yes thank a veteran but also thank those service men and women serving now to keep this coun...

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Happy Veteran's day to all that served

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Irish Setters, Danner Pronghorns, and Under Armour but all are treated with snow seal at least twice a season.

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Mules chaps 5 years 50 dollars Dans chaps 2 years 20 dollars Filson chaps 15 years 110 dollars I like the Filson chaps they are really hot even in 20 degree temps. Mules are real nice I have the summer time chaps with the vent on the back of the leg I wear them more than anything else I have. Dans a...

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Pro 100 I've used everything from sport dog to dt systems to dogtra and have always went back to tri tronics

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I personally like the E-Collar it is very effective tool. But it is also an ever evolving tool we all need to try and learn from all the reaserch that is being done. Not just the collar companies but all the Pro trainers and not just gun dog trainers all trainers. I read every artical that comes out...

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I use snow seal mink oil and saddle soap. New boots about every two weeks than twice a year once about February or March than again in August or September. The first treatment is the longest I treat them dry them atleast three days in a row first day saddle soap and mink oil second day snow seal thi...

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I have done it and still do

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I've been through all the major collar brands on the market and have went back to Tri Tronics everytime now I'm using a pro 100 g2 that would be my choice

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Neil I'm in the same frame of mind you are I've shot unpointed birds and have even let pups and young dogs catch birds on the ground my thoughts were if I bring his prey drive way up if I make a mistake later in training I can go back to birds to help the dog forget about what I did wrong. It may ta...

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Have fun and enjoy

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I would buy a pro 100 over a cheaper collar you will come out money ahead

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I was in the learning stage and thought it was odd to get told the dog would be DQ'd for something that was caused by the judge. Now I have a good feel for NSTRA. I've had my tail handed to me by some good handlers and some nice dogs over the past two years. This year I'll be a little more competive

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In the case I discribed the dog that was supposed to be backing was the dog that made the find the dogs were facing each other and the other handler called the point. So I was out handled and than warned for something that was not the dogs fault.

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The reason for the question was that I though I had a head racing problem so I broke him of that and the next time I trialed him I noticed it wasn't the other dog he was trying to out run it was the 4 wheeler it made sense to me a 65 pound dog vs a 800 pound 4 wheeler the dog loses

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On break away both dogs go over a hill dog A handler calls point dog B backs when the judge gets there he rides within 18 inches of dog B the dog moves to the side and the bird flushes the judge warns dog B's handler if he bumps another bird he will be DQ'd for it. Now I know NSTRA rules say the bac...

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Why do some judges push a dog off the line? I don't know that it happens in horseback much but NSTRA I always see the judge pushing off the break. So you don't know if you have a head racing problem or if the dog is just trying to keep from being run over.

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Or could it be some dogs just have a natural tendency to sit. And we are making a big deal over nothing if the dog sits simply pick it back up let's face it we are dealing with a pup

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I don't like all the plugs for the products but that is part of doing a show someone has to pay for it. The bird work is alright I mean how many times can you get wild birds on film so preserve birds are almost a must to get shows on film. Let's face facts if we go to a preserve some birds don't fly...

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Pressure comes in many forms and from what you described that dog was put under too much pressure. With young dogs too much voice becomes pressure. Pressure is when you see a dog look confused it don't have to come in the form of physical correction a stern voice could be pressure. I believe pressu...

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