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by DonF
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:59 am
Forum: Training
Topic: The value of the force fetch.
Replies: 42
Views: 982

Re: The value of the force fetch.

I used to force fetch broke dog's for trials. But I only wanted a dog to fetch on command. Haven't forced a dog in years now and never had a problem getting most to retrieve well. A hard mouth dog I would force. Seem's I always ended up with a soft moth dog that way but Hard mouth seem's to me is a ...
by DonF
Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:47 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Dog training
Replies: 6
Views: 448

Re: Dog training

Go to the NSTRA site and look up a club in your area. I just did. The region president is in Georgia and there's a phone number listed and address.
by DonF
Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:17 pm
Forum: Brags
Topic: NSTRA best run yet
Replies: 10
Views: 1570

Re: NSTRA best run yet

Been out of NSTRA a long time but thinking about doing a little again. Seven find's is a super run! Something wrong with NSTRA just might be the rule you can't point a bird out of bounds If the bird is out and the dog in, why shouldn't it count? Every dog down has the same chance of pointing an out ...
by DonF
Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Application rather than the tool.
Replies: 17
Views: 413

Re: Application rather than the tool.

There are a good number of pro, past and present, trainer's that have written book's on training bird dogs. Which one is right?
by DonF
Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: It takes birds to make a bird dog.
Replies: 16
Views: 1041

Re: It takes birds to make a bird dog.

I use only pigeons training anymore. Put them in a remote trap and you can make them act a lot more wild than any pen raised game bird. Turning over to game birds is no problem either unless you used the pigeon as a training bird without a remote. Pen raised birds you have no idea what they will do!...
by DonF
Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Application rather than the tool.
Replies: 17
Views: 413

Re: Application rather than the tool.

Thing wrong with a slip collar is they are to easily abused and most people using them have no clue there is a right way to put them on. I took obedience lesson's from a lady in Montana years ago that had the best obedience dog's I've ever seen. The opening lesson was the learn how to put the chain ...
by DonF
Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Time to Fully Train a Brittany
Replies: 18
Views: 457

Re: Time to Fully Train a Brittany

A trained dog. Well a trained dog really isn't there IMO when training is done. You have to put that training to work on wild birds and that finish's the training. Wild birds will not act like pen raised birds. But to get to the point where training is sufficient to go to wild bird's is gonna depend...
by DonF
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:55 am
Forum: Training
Topic: How to fix>?
Replies: 19
Views: 626

Re: How to fix>?

I don't force a dog anymore, never did enjoy it. These days I play train fetch with a pup. Put it on a 20' check cord. On your end of the cord is a knot that keep's the pup from pulling the cord through your hand. Get on your knees and toss an object a short distance for the pup to go after, never e...
by DonF
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: The leash law and the hunting dog
Replies: 2
Views: 174

Re: The leash law and the hunting dog

Funny thing, years ago I carried my old pointer, Rex, with me on the road driving. Stopped in the middle of no G.D. where in S. California, no traffic at all. Sitting there watching Rex run and up pop's a Cal Hwy Patrol officer. he's shooting the breeze and then notice's Rex running. Tells me that t...
by DonF
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:23 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: New pup names and tips
Replies: 12
Views: 337

Re: New pup names and tips

Why is the breeder registering them? I like to think awhile about a name and see what I get watching the pup grow. Of course that is how I get the call name and it doesn't need be anything like the registered name!
by DonF
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Slowing down the dog
Replies: 47
Views: 900

Re: Slowing down the dog

You haven't lived until you've seen a really fast dog hit a bird close at about a 90* angle, whamo! My old Thea hit one that way one time and rolled completely over and came up on a super hard point, it was stunning. Stormy did one like that and flipped sideways so quick he was on point with no feet...
by DonF
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Thanks, Ezzy333
Replies: 29
Views: 1264

Re: Thanks, Ezzy333

Good to hear from you Ezzy!
by DonF
Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: first time hunt testing
Replies: 19
Views: 438

Re: first time hunt testing

My advice would be to read up on the requirements of whichever tests or levels you want to run, then go to a test and observe. It's difficult to just read and figure out what you need to do. It's hard to explain from a keyboard also :D There are some youtube videos that show some tests. Here is one...
by DonF
Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:00 am
Forum: Training
Topic: It takes birds to make a bird dog.
Replies: 16
Views: 1041

Re: It takes birds to make a bird dog.

Never had a problem turning dog's on to wild birds from pigeons. Usually a couple birds and the wild one's are good to go. I don't check cord dog's into birds either, I let them go on pigeon's in remote traps and do my best to make them act like wild birds. You'll find when switching over if you che...
by DonF
Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:44 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Brittany vs Springer
Replies: 14
Views: 501

Re: Brittany vs Springer

Keep in mind that there is a distinct difference in a show Springer and a field springer. To look at them, at least when I had springer's, they looked like two different breeds.
by DonF
Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:38 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Thanks, Ezzy333
Replies: 29
Views: 1264

Re: Thanks, Ezzy333

Great guy! Thank you Ezzy!
by DonF
Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GWP breeder suggestions
Replies: 12
Views: 432

Re: GWP breeder suggestions

Just got a message from Meg, Wireswest German Wirehair Pointer's. Very honest and popular out here!
by DonF
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GWP breeder suggestions
Replies: 12
Views: 432

Re: GWP breeder suggestions

Go to Facebook and do a search for Meg Eaden. She's got the best wirehairs I've ever seen. Run's AKC and found out last year, NAVHDA with her dog's. Another to check would be Ray Calkins but need to get on a list with him I think. He would be Cascade kennels in Sherwood, Oregon, unless hes moved!
by DonF
Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:46 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Old friend
Replies: 4
Views: 336

Old friend

Got a call from a guy I used to hunt with some years ago last night. Wanted to come over and work a new dog he got on some birds. Sure! Got here about noon today. He got a started setter from Berg Bros. Nice looking dog and gonna make a nice bird dog I think. Have no idea what his screen name is on ...
by DonF
Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Picardy Spaniel
Replies: 9
Views: 333

Re: Picardy Spaniel

I've never heard of this breed before. Nice looking an did a real nice job! That's a Darne your shooting isn't it?
by DonF
Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: English Setter Confusion
Replies: 40
Views: 1509

Re: English Setter Confusion

I think the thing about NAVHDA and other venues is simply that NAVHDA is a test and the other's are competition of one kind or another. But a NAVHDA dog should be competative in NSTRA but probably not AKC or AF. Not even in walking trials. Have only been to one NAVHDA test and did not come away impr...
by DonF
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Training
Topic: VIDEO: Learning That Steadiness Pays Off
Replies: 34
Views: 1316

Re: VIDEO: Learning That Steadiness Pays Off

Call it what you want , creance ,string, chord,lead or Rope . Next it will be a "Wonder Creance" like Delmar :wink: .. Like any tool used incorrectly it will be just a piece of rope. I tink it twas a bit taut to be taught ,said the Irishman next to me . :lol: I believe Rich made the Wonder Creance,...
by DonF
Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: Birds & Bird Supplies
Topic: Raisin pigeons?
Replies: 5
Views: 766

Re: Raisin pigeons?

I had to look up rasin pigeons. Seem's they are just homer's. Little secret about homer's. Unless your training a long way from home, like 40+ mi, ferals will do the same thing homer's will do, their wilder birds and smaller and easier to work with. They are fairly easy to catch too if you know wher...
by DonF
Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:27 am
Forum: Training
Topic: VIDEO: Learning That Steadiness Pays Off
Replies: 34
Views: 1316

Re: VIDEO: Learning That Steadiness Pays Off

About all I got from that was the dog went straight to what looked like a hay pile to me, bumped a bird out then go whoa'd and the guy walks back down the isle and pick's up a dead bird! What was the lesson here for the dog?
by DonF
Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: Labs vs. Goldens
Replies: 13
Views: 575

Re: Labs vs. Goldens

Never had a golden. But as I understand it they are more biddable than labs. That and they bring half the lake back into the blind with them!
by DonF
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:32 pm
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: The Plight of the American Hunter
Replies: 16
Views: 861

Re: The Plight of the American Hunter

I don't think cost will kill hunting anywhere. What it will do is limit it to those that don't care what it cost's! I'm not so sure lack of game will end it either. Ever notice how much some out of state license's and tag's run. If your fish and game and see revenue going down just increase the numb...
by DonF
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Locating dogs in thick cover
Replies: 18
Views: 1232

Re: Locating dogs in thick cover

I have rarely ever hunted cover like that. Why? can't see my dog's! Have a Garmin on them now so I do know where to look but I'd rather watch the dog's doing their thing!
by DonF
Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: 1 year growth of our GSP, Levi. Pup to bird hunting machine
Replies: 3
Views: 469

Re: 1 year growth of our GSP, Levi. Pup to bird hunting machine

You have obviously miss named your dog. His name should be Pepsi! I like it just the same! I was going to name my Red Setter pup Mailli, Celtic for Molly, but I like that name Pepsi. Gonna have to think about this. Thank's for providing me with this problem! :mrgreen:
by DonF
Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:00 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Best way to get a dog to hunt dead?
Replies: 15
Views: 972

Re: Best way to get a dog to hunt dead?

I don't recall ever knowingly teaching dog's to hunt dead but over the years I've had a few shorthairs that no cripple cold get away from. Always seemed that if the dog saw the bird go down and went to that spot, it would either pick up a dead bird of find the scent and go after it. A problem I had ...
by DonF
Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:02 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training a dog in an area with no wild birds
Replies: 49
Views: 2766

Re: Training a dog in an area with no wild birds

You would have to do a lot of driving around here to train on wild bird's. Not many to be found here anymore. But even when there were lots of birds I trained mostly on pigeons and then let the dog's finish out on wild game birds in season. I have used pen raised birds a bit in the past but the thin...
by DonF
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:17 am
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: Hidden
Replies: 27
Views: 1871

Re: Hidden

Darn. Had to post just to see if my location is on. I like to see that too, if mine isn't on I'll put it up.
by DonF
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:37 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training a dog in an area with no wild birds
Replies: 49
Views: 2766

Re: Training a dog in an area with no wild birds

Get over the idea of a wild bird and a pigeon, they are both a bird and the dog won't know the difference till you teach it! If you can get a hold of feral pigeons instead of homer's you can honestly tell yourself, and dog if need be, that your using wild birds. Use your wife's pet Parakeet's and th...
by DonF
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Bird Report from Northern Montana
Replies: 15
Views: 1595

Re: Bird Report from Northern Montana

Hey Eric. Welcome aboard!
by DonF
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:02 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Problem Neighbor
Replies: 30
Views: 1523

Re: Problem Neighbor

Talking won't fix a thing. This has nothing to do with you or your dog. If not your dog, he'll find something else to be a problem about. He trespass's himself and destroy's your property, even on your property. He is simply a bast*rd!
by DonF
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:26 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Tips for getting a dog to hunt in thick brush
Replies: 40
Views: 1762

Re: Tips for getting a dog to hunt in thick brush

Sounds to me like you might be better served with a flushing dog. Only problem is the flushing dog probably couldn't keep track of you either!
by DonF
Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Tips for getting a dog to hunt in thick brush
Replies: 40
Views: 1762

Re: Tips for getting a dog to hunt in thick brush

How thick brush are you talking about? I had the dog's in sagebrush a week ago I couldn't see much over and haven't a clue where the dogs were. Doesn't do a lot of good to take dog's into stuff you can't even shoot in much less see the dog's.
by DonF
Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:30 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: My Wirehair is useful!
Replies: 3
Views: 514

Re: My Wirehair is useful!

I found a good way to keep from losing key's. Bought a 2004 Ford Explorer this year and it only had one key with it. Has those buttons on the driver door to open it though. Stopped at the Ford dealer nd checked on getting it working, $50! Wow, figured I'd go to the Western Auto and get a couple new ...
by DonF
Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:43 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Setter tracking birds
Replies: 39
Views: 2214

Re: Setter tracking birds

Ya know, earlier I though you said you didn't have access to birds yet couple post's ago you said you put or the trainer put the dog on pigeon's in a release trap? If the trainer can get pigeons so can you! As for the release trap, get the remote ones. The kick traps with a string attached, don't wa...
by DonF
Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Bringing a new pup home.
Replies: 4
Views: 483

Re: Bringing a new pup home.

You'll need a lot of socks! Puppy's like socks! :D
by DonF
Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: First time on new species
Replies: 11
Views: 583

Re: First time on new species

The top knot on the quail is different. The Valley Quail roll's over frontward. Mountain Qail's sweeps back, sort of like a head on wind blowing it. The Valley Quails goes up and forward d the mountain quail bore of a brown color.an. Valley quail is gray predominately an. But, In the ail, I'm not su...
by DonF
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Not holding Birds
Replies: 15
Views: 956

Re: Not holding Birds

I recall years ago when I ran NSTRA, a guy asked me to gun for him. He wanted to handle his dog because he had the problem you have. Dog got on it's first bird and I circled the dog and came from the front. WATCH the dog! Very important. I made the circle watching the dog and knew about where the bi...
by DonF
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:03 am
Forum: Training
Topic: VIDEO: Stella Ready for Her New Home
Replies: 9
Views: 571

Re: VIDEO: Stella Ready for Her New Home

I don't think she's ready either.
by DonF
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:33 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Not holding Birds
Replies: 15
Views: 956

Re: Not holding Birds

I'm gonna say handler error. Problem is the handler at some point changed the rules and the dog like's the new rules. Now the fix is to go start over and don't allow the same thing to happen again. My guess is what happened is at least a few time's your dog actually broke but you called it good enou...
by DonF
Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Quail caught
Replies: 15
Views: 916

Re: Quail caught

Your dog isn't ruined over one caught bird, or even two! And I would not give it a bird simply as a reward for doing something right. If you want to give your dog a bird, shoot it! Blood scent on the bird should mean something to the dog. No blood scent from a live bird should mean point it. Best ad...
by DonF
Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: Training
Topic: "soft" points
Replies: 9
Views: 583

Re: "soft" points

Have a number of different fields to train in and keep moving around. Don't always put down birds for them either. Sometimes just take them for a walk, preferably where they may run into a wild bird or three!
by DonF
Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:13 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: INTENSITY ~ A portrait.
Replies: 5
Views: 545

Re: INTENSITY ~ A portrait.

Nice photo!
by DonF
Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:50 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Minnesota Ruffed Grouse
Replies: 30
Views: 2132

Re: Minnesota Ruffed Grouse

Are those woodcock any good to eat?
by DonF
Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Possessive over birds
Replies: 18
Views: 989

Re: Possessive over birds

This bring's back a great memory. My Hannah was like that. Never bothered other dog's unless they wanted to take a look at the bird she was retrieving. Actually kind of funny. First time it happened was a water retrieve and another dog looked at her bird on the way by. She gave it a horrible look bu...
by DonF
Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:05 am
Forum: Training
Topic: First covey ever - Busted
Replies: 11
Views: 717

Re: First covey ever - Busted

OOP'S! Didn't point the covey and you praised him? Should ignored it and gone on. Could be the next covey he find's he might bust also. If he does, simply ignore it and go on. Keep in mind also, one mistake will not ruin a dog. Keep trying to get him into birds and I'd bet he'll be fine.
by DonF
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:04 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Setter tracking birds
Replies: 39
Views: 2214

Re: Setter tracking birds

I went through some of this again and can't find it. What breed of dog are we talking about? To me the problem with pointing seem's very simple. Your dog will point but is sure it can catch the birds for whatever reason and the birds are allowing the dog to creep in on them. With the remote trap and...