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by Waterdogs1
Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:48 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Become Bird Dog Trainer
Replies: 27
Views: 10889

Re: Become Bird Dog Trainer

My first job as an assistant was 700 a month room and board from daylight till well after dark. You will start out as a liability and have to prove you are an asset. Alot of happy go lucky amatures want to become pros till they find out how much work it is. I was very fortunate and got to move all o...
by Waterdogs1
Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:08 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Tipping guides
Replies: 62
Views: 18519

Re: Tipping guides

The better lodges have a hundred dollars a day tip per gun and it goes down from their. That is on top of a wage from the lodge. You are taking all that risk with your dogs and someone getting shot being in the field with who knows who.
by Waterdogs1
Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:38 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Force Fetch mistakes
Replies: 14
Views: 6134

Re: Force Fetch mistakes

If you want a dog that retrieves and is relaible and not mouth birds I would force fetch or have someone do the FF for you.
by Waterdogs1
Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:55 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Which is tougher to do?
Replies: 75
Views: 19946

Re: Which is tougher to do?

I have trained retrievers for ever and at pretty high standard. My GSP shorthair is a break from all the yard work of training retrievers for me. So many more steps in training and yard work for a retriever, it is way more intense and many more steps to get to the point of running good blinds.If you...
by Waterdogs1
Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:56 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Best bird bag?
Replies: 10
Views: 5423

Best bird bag?

I am in need of a bird bag to plant pigeons and chukers. Who makes the best bag?? Sturdy and easy to use.
by Waterdogs1
Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:48 am
Forum: Training
Topic: planting pigeons for a flusher
Replies: 21
Views: 6484

Re: planting pigeons for a flusher

When I start my young dogs i use clip wings out in the field. I have used launchers to teach sit to flush but honestly who cares. If your dog will sit in a whistle sit to flush is easy. It is easier for a dog to mark a bird if he is sits to flush but again if the dog handles that not a problem either.
by Waterdogs1
Sat May 10, 2014 8:53 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Stopping the Chase?
Replies: 19
Views: 6675

Re: Stopping the Chase?

Would using the collar without any formal training be bad? The dog chases and gets burnt and then has a association of the bird and bolt of lightening. The dog has no clue why he is getting burnt :?
by Waterdogs1
Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:21 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Blank Gun
Replies: 22
Views: 7705

Re: Blank Gun

I doubt you will be buying any Gun X pistols anytime soon. I have my old NEF pistol that works great. You need to use flatter primers with it but it works great. I do wish I had bought a Gun X when they were making them.
by Waterdogs1
Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:39 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dilemma about lab, springer or DD choice
Replies: 58
Views: 15350

Re: Dilemma about lab, springer or DD choice

I doubt producing a pointing dog was their intent when they did the breeding. :lol:
by Waterdogs1
Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:30 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dilemma about lab, springer or DD choice
Replies: 58
Views: 15350

Re: Dilemma about lab, springer or DD choice

They have to at some point. The gene pool of natural pointing retrievers is so small not to. Go down the list of genetic traits of each dog and it really boils down to what you want. You are going to have give and take anytime you are trying to breed for one specific trait. No different as color or ...
by Waterdogs1
Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:17 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dilemma about lab, springer or DD choice
Replies: 58
Views: 15350

Re: Dilemma about lab, springer or DD choice

For what you described you would be most likely best served with a good lab out of good working bloodlines. Point or no point, British or American the dog that are bred to hunt they don't care. Then it is up to you. I love springers and would have one but I am not a fan of the longer coat and the fa...
by Waterdogs1
Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:33 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSP Stud dogs in NW
Replies: 16
Views: 4618

Re: GSP Stud dogs in NW

I wonder if George Wilsons dog Buzz is still alive or if he collected him. My first dogs years ago was out of FC Edlous Rock N Knock and he was way awsome.
by Waterdogs1
Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:59 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Coyotes and Dogs
Replies: 225
Views: 78491

Re: Coyotes and Dogs

I have seen Coyotes go after dogs before. It is only bad when you get multiple coyotes after a dog. The yotes seem to be bigger in our area thann I have seen in the south and areas I have been in the east. Most that I saw in GA, SC,NC, and Michigan were the size of our foxes. They raise alot of heck...
by Waterdogs1
Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:41 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSP Stud dogs in NW
Replies: 16
Views: 4618

Re: GSP Stud dogs in NW

My bitch is not a huge running dog she is a beauty on point and is retrieving fool. She did not get hunted a ton last season but this season I made it a point to get her out as much as I could. She did pretty well for the bird numbers we had to work with. She goes with you and runs to the front and ...
by Waterdogs1
Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:32 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSP Stud dogs in NW
Replies: 16
Views: 4618

Re: GSP Stud dogs in NW

This is a copy of her pedigree
by Waterdogs1
Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:07 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSP Stud dogs in NW
Replies: 16
Views: 4618

GSP Stud dogs in NW

I was wondering what was out their in the northwest. I have a bitch I would like to breed around July and am starting to look now. Preference would be to a titled sire. I just do not know what is out their or where I could start my search.
by Waterdogs1
Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:51 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Hearing to Ban all Hunting Dogs in California
Replies: 55
Views: 28171

Re: Hearing to Ban all Hunting Dogs in California

Not a big suprise that this is happening in CA. We see a good number of them moving to our state trying to change it as well. I ran a group off private property that were from CA trespassing duck hunting a few weeks ago. They just don't get it and have very little clue about reality, respect and are...
by Waterdogs1
Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:59 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Foot Care? Dogs
Replies: 11
Views: 2484

Re: Foot Care? Dogs

I have a gravel Containment pen and it helps my retrievers. Biotin we gave it to are horses and it worked. My dog has been inside alot since it has been so cold and her feet are softer than usual.
by Waterdogs1
Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:59 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Foot Care? Dogs
Replies: 11
Views: 2484

Foot Care? Dogs

I was wondering if you guys have any secrets on foot care. Anything you put on your dogs feet? I have been hunting my dog hard and really was wondering how many days will you hunt a dog in a row foot care and so on. Hunting really rough chuker country. When I trained bomb dog we used Mushers secret....
by Waterdogs1
Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:58 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Bibs? Dan's or Mules
Replies: 7
Views: 2087

Bibs? Dan's or Mules

I am looking at getting some bibs for training. Was wondering wbich is better Dan's or Mules.
by Waterdogs1
Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:30 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Nevada bird Hunting?
Replies: 8
Views: 3046

Re: Nevada bird Hunting?

Nice I am excited if it looks good I might have to make a yearly expedition of it. Not sur how far the ranch is from any gas stations bars or anything but I think it is a ways. Everyone has been reporting not great numbers in our area except my friend found a bunch last weekend that were close. I ju...
by Waterdogs1
Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:51 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Nevada bird Hunting?
Replies: 8
Views: 3046

Re: Nevada bird Hunting?

Sounds like I better take the dogs. I am excited now. Now I have to look into getting a license.
by Waterdogs1
Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:47 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Nevada bird Hunting?
Replies: 8
Views: 3046

Nevada bird Hunting?

I am going to be in Nevada for atleast a week on a big ranch outside of Orevada. I have never been their I was wondering if their are any bird in the area. I guess the ranch has alot of Hay and Corn. I have no clue if their are any birds or not but was wondering if anyone might know. I will throw in...
by Waterdogs1
Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:27 pm
Forum: Product Ratings & Reviews
Topic: GPS wich one
Replies: 5
Views: 4466

Re: GPS wich one

Cabelas has a sale now in the bundle for thw Garmin astro 320 and the DC40 collar for 400. I am buying one.
by Waterdogs1
Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:59 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Force to pile for a pointing dog
Replies: 38
Views: 8580

Re: Force to pile for a pointing dog

I am force fetching my Gsp now and am toying with the idea of teaching her to handle or attempt to do so. She is a hard charging retriever land and water. Will see if things slow down this fall and winter that might be a project. Force to pile is just one step in many to get a dog to run those long ...
by Waterdogs1
Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:25 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: launcher question
Replies: 24
Views: 7874

Re: launcher question

Dogtra is pretty nice I used them years ago and they were tough. I am getting a new launcher but I already have Tri- Tronics electronics so I am getting the Launchers from gundog supply and the conversion kit to hook to the manual launcher so I can use Tri- Tronics electronics. If I was going to do ...
by Waterdogs1
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:29 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: ecollar what is best
Replies: 14
Views: 3476

Re: ecollar what is best

The 2500 T/B could be a great collar the only issue I see is the fact the collar is on the inside of the reciever pulling not on the outside pushing to make contact. I like Dogtra over TT just have had less issues with the Dogtra's over the years. I use to be hard core TT but I have sent to many bac...
by Waterdogs1
Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:27 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Gun Breaking Lab?
Replies: 21
Views: 5867

Re: Gun Breaking Lab?

If you have a gun shy dog already why are you so eager to start using a gun again. Why not just keep marking the the dog and building his retrieving and go on and FF and then come back and re intro the dog to the gun after he has had some time off from it. Some people get lucky even though they do m...
by Waterdogs1
Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:22 am
Forum: Training
Topic: NAVHDA Training
Replies: 30
Views: 7150

Re: NAVHDA Training

I use Dokens with my young dogs and Canvas. Not sure either are exceptable for your test but I would be more worried about the end result than a puppy test.We have a early test every year in my area and you see a good bunch of dogs get ruined not because of running the test but all the foks trying t...
by Waterdogs1
Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:01 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSP v. Lab
Replies: 16
Views: 3950

Re: GSP v. Lab

I have had both and love them both. Just got a GSP that is nine months old. I have three labs that are my personal dogs and my GSP. I train retrievers and hunt waterfowl three days a week but living in Idaho a good pointing dog is a blast for upland. I hunt my labs on pheasants and quail but I reall...
by Waterdogs1
Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:11 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Force Fetch Age
Replies: 25
Views: 7096

Re: Force Fetch Age

This is a intersting thread for me because I want to see the difference between what might be done with a pointing dog and what I do with retrievers. My GSP is nine months old and as a puppy has been a good retriever. I throw marks like a would with my labs land and water. She thinks she is a lab bu...
by Waterdogs1
Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:44 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Field trial dog
Replies: 23
Views: 4739

Re: Field trial dog

If that wirehair can do a monster water quad and run 600 yd land or water blind then that is one heck of a dog. Wingman get with someone that has had success in the venue you want to train your dog in. Learn all you can from the best you can and enjoy it for what it is a journey. I hunted behind a y...
by Waterdogs1
Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:48 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Chuker boots?
Replies: 12
Views: 2470

Re: Chuker boots?

Meindl is what my buddy had for early archery and we put some rocky miles on them and he loves them. You say the Alaska hunters hold up better. How were the Perfekt hunters? I know they are expensive but they have a lifetime guarantee which I already used on my American made Danners after eleven day...
by Waterdogs1
Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:42 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Chuker boots?
Replies: 12
Views: 2470

Re: Chuker boots?

I am using my elk and deer hunting boots now and they kinda suck. Not bad since we have snow. Hopefully it will melt. Are season is about over but I am going to need something for training. I had some of the American made danners and they were great till the soal split from the rocks I guess. We pou...
by Waterdogs1
Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:54 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Chuker boots?
Replies: 12
Views: 2470

Chuker boots?

Any good recommendations?
by Waterdogs1
Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:24 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training DVDS?
Replies: 14
Views: 2409

Re: Training DVDS?

Started to read steady with style. I like it so far.
by Waterdogs1
Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:53 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training DVDS?
Replies: 14
Views: 2409

Re: Training DVDS?

I have a ten month old GSP I want to do some trials with. I have trained retrievers for over 17 years and worked for a bunch of retriever Pro's just wanted to get into running a pointing dog. It was what got me into dogs years ago. I love watching them work. It is weird usually I am the one with ans...
by Waterdogs1
Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:58 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training DVDS?
Replies: 14
Views: 2409

Re: Training DVDS?

That seems to be the ones everyone recommends. Hickox did a seminar at the kennels I worked at years ago. I should have watched but I was training.
by Waterdogs1
Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:38 am
Forum: Training
Topic: VIDEO: Starting a Young Pup
Replies: 17
Views: 4492

Re: VIDEO: Starting a Young Pup

Nice video
by Waterdogs1
Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:12 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training DVDS?
Replies: 14
Views: 2409

Training DVDS?

I am thinking of buying some training DVDs. I was thinking of ordering Perfect start perfect finish. What do you guys recommend? Right now the weather sucks to train so I thought I might watch some good DVDS. Are their any sight that have articles on training?
by Waterdogs1
Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:19 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Looking for Pro Trainer for Force Fetch
Replies: 9
Views: 2006

Re: Looking for Pro Trainer for Force Fetch

any trainer worth his salt is going to charge more than 400 a month and decide if the dog needs it three times a day :mrgreen: I FF in the am and again in the PM but three time a day is a bit much for some dogs. I would hope if you are going to pay someone they are doing more than FF your dog during...
by Waterdogs1
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:23 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Hard mouth as as a hunting dog and trial dog.
Replies: 18
Views: 5359

Re: Hard mouth as as a hunting dog and trial dog.

I like my birds nice and edible so no hard mouths for me. If they can't do the whole job why have them when their are dogs that will.
by Waterdogs1
Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:01 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Transitioning to Ducks
Replies: 32
Views: 6401

Re: Transitioning to Ducks

Find a pro or a someone who has FF a good number of dogs. If you want a true water dog that gets it done when things are cold get a retriever. As far as the FF get help that is something you do not want to screw up. Sounds like you have a really nice dog.
by Waterdogs1
Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:00 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Male or Female ?
Replies: 6
Views: 1076

Re: Male or Female ?

I would pic the breeding first then the sex then the color.
by Waterdogs1
Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:52 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Tracking Collar Astro?
Replies: 4
Views: 783

Re: Tracking Collar Astro?

I am sure I have been hunting her without a collar and it has been a litte spooky. Yesterday it was so nice to hunt her with one on. Just let her roll and not be freaked out she is going to get lost. She is not a big running dog. She is only 10 months and she will go a couple hundred yards. She stil...
by Waterdogs1
Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:35 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Tracking Collar Astro?
Replies: 4
Views: 783

Tracking Collar Astro?

I am sure this has been dicussed before but since this is all new to me I am going to ask. I am looking for a tracking collar. Hunted with a friend yesterday. We had his older dog and my pup. We used his older Astro and it was so nice to have on her. It made me feel much better knowing where she was...
by Waterdogs1
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:51 am
Forum: Training
Topic: How far can they smell
Replies: 34
Views: 10918

Re: How far can they smell

Ha! Ha! I am stinky!! I agree but the question was asked how far can they smell not how far can they smell a bird. We also assume we are talking about a single bird or a covey. Dogs will have a change of behavior much farther away it depends on if they are trained to do something at that first nose ...
by Waterdogs1
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:09 am
Forum: Training
Topic: How far can they smell
Replies: 34
Views: 10918

Re: How far can they smell

Dogs can smell much farther than you think. Well Coyotes anyway hunt those little dudes and if they get down wind of you two hundred yards out I have been busted. When I was training detection dogs I had one little female that would smell anything and indicate twice as far as any other dog I had see...
by Waterdogs1
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:38 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Gun-shy Lab
Replies: 47
Views: 13882

Re: Gun-shy Lab

Gun Shyness is man made. Are you throwing him marks or just hand throwing yourself. If he has good desire to retrieve you can get him over it just put the pistol away for now. Throw marks without the gun for awhile and when you intro to gun do it at a good distance and you won't have a problem. It m...
by Waterdogs1
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:34 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Idaho trialers, Training group?
Replies: 9
Views: 3012

Re: Idaho trialers, Training group?

I train outside of Kuna from now till the cheat grass gets bad. The snow has messed up my retriever training but I have been working my GSP pup. I havn't even hunted ducks in two weeks. Nice looking horse in your Avatar.