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by zigzag
Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:02 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: pigeon coop in dog area
Replies: 15
Views: 3945

Re: pigeon coop in dog area

. I could not tell from your post if the dog was going to be kenneled right next to your pigeon coop. One thing to keep in mind if this is what your planing. Pigeons are messy and there droppings will bring rodents that carry diseases. I would not worry that much about the dog getting desensitized a...
by zigzag
Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:51 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Chocolate Lab puppy pedigree?
Replies: 6
Views: 2152

Re: Chocolate Lab puppy pedigree?

Thanks for the replys. My pigeon loft is full with about 20 homers. This pup is 9 weeks now and I got him on a cripple to check his prey drive. Seems top notch so far, might throw a few courtinix quail for him to fetch up. I'm working this Hup?? Thing. I will read some more books to see what I can f...
by zigzag
Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:37 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Chocolate Lab puppy pedigree?
Replies: 6
Views: 2152

Re: Chocolate Lab puppy pedigree?

Still working on getting the Sire pedigree up. Some technical difficultys
by zigzag
Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:29 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Chocolate Lab puppy pedigree?
Replies: 6
Views: 2152

Chocolate Lab puppy pedigree?

I just picked up a chocolate lab puppy. From a breeder in Albany OR. The is going to by my GFs dog, she has always wanted wanted a chocolate Lab. I had to deterr her from purchasing a Silver lab. After counseling her significantly on the importance of finding a responsible breeder that does health c...
by zigzag
Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:07 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Gear to start buying
Replies: 13
Views: 2722

Re: Gear to start buying

I'm just going to say what I should have done in the weeks prior to pup arriving. Pick one training programe. Just one. Build a pigeon loft. Get young homing pigeons that have never been flown. Buy a remote bird launcher two if you can afford it. Later buy a JASCO collar. Even later buy an Ecollar. ...
by zigzag
Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:19 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pigeon Question
Replies: 20
Views: 3702

Re: Pigeon Question

Just an idea for the roof rather then shingles would be the metel roof sheets used for awnings and such. You could extend the overhang slightly and then just hose off the roof when the droping build up. I also think the birds will be less likely to roost on the metal roofing. Your on the right track...
by zigzag
Tue May 28, 2013 2:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Mocrochip?
Replies: 30
Views: 5350

Re: Mocrochip?

The Micro chip is great. I use Home Again. I recently moved and was able to update my new address and phone numbers alternate contacts and new vet information all online as well as a picture of my dog. 45 bucks well spent.
by zigzag
Fri May 17, 2013 9:48 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: COST OF TRAINING??
Replies: 71
Views: 9391

Re: COST OF TRAINING??

IMO. Leaving your dog with a pro trainer should not be done untill your dog is 2yrs or just shy of. You should already know what your dog is capable of and expect a finished dog in 3 months. That means you have done proper bird intro, Gun intro, hunted him one season. Then send your dog away to a pro.
by zigzag
Wed May 08, 2013 9:09 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Intro young pup to pigeons
Replies: 6
Views: 2219

Re: Intro young pup to pigeons

I agree that a young pup 16weeks to 5 months old should catch a few birds. I'm not a trainer or by any means an expert, but I let my dog catch a few week flying planted Coturnix Quail AKA Japanese. In the field we used for training. He chased them down cought the bird carried it as long as he wanted...
by zigzag
Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:52 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: wonderlead vs choke collar
Replies: 10
Views: 2877

Re: wonderlead vs choke collar

http://www.gundogsupply.com/leather-pinch-collars.html

This is my go to choice for everything all the time. Walks, heel training, Whoa training.
by zigzag
Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:48 pm
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: Riding Shotgun
Replies: 14
Views: 3767

Re: Riding Shotgun

I have a topper and rarely let the dog just ride free in the back. I don't think it is really a safe option. Most of the time I use a mid size crate that just barely fits behind the passenger seat in my extra cab Toyota pickup. I also have a larger crate that I can strap down in the truck bed for lo...
by zigzag
Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:59 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: "Come" vs. "Here"
Replies: 34
Views: 6472

Re: "Come" vs. "Here"

My note is for Hear. It carries well across the field sharp and to the point. Now I have a real problem with Whoa. That one sounds a lot like No. So I don't use Whoa.
by zigzag
Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:44 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: does she sound timid to you...or is it just me
Replies: 34
Views: 6112

Re: does she sound timid to you...or is it just me

When you first began using the E collar was it in the field? Do you think she may have a negative association to the field created by the E collar. Try putting the Ecollar on her when you take your walks around the neghborhood see if she shows any fear. How and what kind of Gun conditioning has take...
by zigzag
Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:27 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: does she sound timid to you...or is it just me
Replies: 34
Views: 6112

Re: does she sound timid to you...or is it just me

I seem to remember my Vizsla going through a similar stage. My training was also very much like yours, from about 4 months old we started going to a pro trainer weekly, using peigeons in remote launchers going through gun condition. Dog did great hard charging finding birds holding points not gun sh...
by zigzag
Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:32 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: By the Hour Training
Replies: 5
Views: 634

Re: By the Hour Training

The trainer I have been using since my pup was 4 months old, does by the hr training. At 40.00 an Hr plus 10.00 for kill birds. I found this to be the most valuable training I could have possible hoped for, first most trainers will not take a dog for board and train untill the dog is 9-12 months old...
by zigzag
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:46 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Purina pro plan performance
Replies: 141
Views: 41328

Re: Purina pro plan performance

Changed from Canidae ALS to PPP ALS Three weeks ago for hunting season. Dog is hunting with lots of energy, three to four hour hunts, three days a week. Could be conditioning could be the food. I think I will use Canidae ALS in the off season.
by zigzag
Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:45 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Trainers In PNW
Replies: 8
Views: 846

Re: Trainers In PNW

If your in SW Washington near the Portland area? Double Gun Ranch. I had a great time training my pup with Chris.
by zigzag
Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:21 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Purina pro plan performance
Replies: 141
Views: 41328

Re: Purina pro plan performance

I will be following this thread as I recently switched from Canidae ALS to PPP ALS slight increase in cost for PPP, main reason for switch was the increase in protein and fat. I wanted to keep him in good shape through the hunting season.
Canidae ALS is 24/16
PPP ALS is 30/20
by zigzag
Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:58 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Hick ups.
Replies: 4
Views: 373

Re: Hick ups.

My Vizsla pup would get the hiccups pretty bad from age 12 weeks to about 5 months. It just stoped although the other night he seemed to have a slight hiccup or two while resting on my lap. I will follow this thread closley as I would like to know if this may be a more serious problem. Inside Dog, E...
by zigzag
Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:52 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Upland pants
Replies: 37
Views: 6435

Re: Upland pants

LL bean gortex upland field pants. 1/2 season on Phez and they are great, Its wet in Oregon/Washington and that is the best part about the pants(water resistant) In the briars/black berrys they are not that great.
by zigzag
Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:06 am
Forum: Training
Topic: how did you all fix this?
Replies: 18
Views: 3085

Re: how did you all fix this?

LET her chase. Does she point good and hold for you to get there? If so you dont want to do anything diffrent. Did you say she was a Vizsla? I was not sure from your post. Find the right trainer if she is a Vizsla and no E collar just let her whear it in the off position for a few more months. Put i...
by zigzag
Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:12 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Vizsla Pedigree Insight
Replies: 15
Views: 3023

Re: Vizsla Pedigree Insight

He is probley not gonna get much fly fishing in the first few years. I tryed to take my Vizsla fishing a few times and it can be a chore. I just hike, hunt and train him. I get to throw a fly for few casts then its back to dog work.
by zigzag
Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:49 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Leaving 8 week old puppy at home alone
Replies: 12
Views: 3203

Re: Leaving 8 week old puppy at home alone

Re: Leaving 8 week old puppy at home alone by ultracarry » Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:47 am Why not get a 5x5 weld wire kennel, put a dog house in it and let the dog stay outside. When your at home let it in. Agree, The WX in PHX is not your enemy it is your friend, you can easily raise an outdoor Kennel dog.
by zigzag
Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:26 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Singel engine aircraft travel
Replies: 3
Views: 501

Re: Singel engine aircraft travel

From researching it seems the noise could be a problem. My main concern is altitude and the dogs abilty to adjust to pressure changes. The plane does not have pressurized cabin, we have oxygen tanks for shorts flights above 11k. we would keep are altitude below 1Ok if the dog was on board.
by zigzag
Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:59 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Singel engine aircraft travel
Replies: 3
Views: 501

Singel engine aircraft travel

I was planing a trip with my father to some fly in fishing spots around Idaho Montana. We will be flying a Cessna 182 into the back country. My question is does anyone have experince flying in a small AC with a dog? If we could take my 1.5tr old Vizsla along it could be a blast.
by zigzag
Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:16 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Lead posoning
Replies: 5
Views: 740

Re: Lead posoning

It's hard to say it was a sinker like 4oz he chewed the tips lots of teeth
Marks on bolth ends. How it ended up in the yard I don't know. Is there a way to induce vomiting at home?
by zigzag
Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:00 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Lead posoning
Replies: 5
Views: 740

Lead posoning

I came home to find my dog chewing on a lead fishing weight. The dog had the run of the backyard while I was at work, the lead weight is not one of mine I never use this kind of fishing wght. He chewed it preety good on bolth ends. Should I be concerned?
by zigzag
Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: M-Doggies Launchers
Replies: 5
Views: 844

Re: M-Doggies Launchers

This is why I like this forum, I have been looking for somthing at this price point for awhile.
by zigzag
Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:53 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Rabies shot already?!?
Replies: 30
Views: 4938

Re: Rabies shot already?!?

Or perhapse a better? Would you give a 12yr old a rabbies Vaccination without regard to side effects?
by zigzag
Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:50 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Rabies shot already?!?
Replies: 30
Views: 4938

Re: Rabies shot already?!?

You really don't agree with giving the rabies shot as a stand alone vac? I think this is good medicine, there are a number of dogs that may or may not have a reaction to this shot. Wouldint you like to rule out other vaccinations as the cause of allergic reaction? I think a six month rabbies shot af...
by zigzag
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:28 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Rabies shot already?!?
Replies: 30
Views: 4938

Re: Rabies shot already?!?

If you want to play it safe 6mo and no other vaccinations. If you want to go even further do a Titter test before you have booster vaccination.
by zigzag
Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:30 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: point status
Replies: 7
Views: 2632

Re: point status

That is a really great artical for every young bird dog owner begining training. I made my share of mistakes when my pup was young. Using CC around birds and thinking I could teach him whoa that way. Thankfully I got to a Pro trainer before I really screwed him up. Looking back and reflecting I thin...
by zigzag
Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:06 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Saline Eye wash?
Replies: 4
Views: 755

Re: Saline Eye wash?

Boric acid???? That just sounds wrong
by zigzag
Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:30 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Saline Eye wash?
Replies: 4
Views: 755

Saline Eye wash?

My dog gets grass seeds in his eyes this time of year running thru high grass I have been using one time use saline eye wash to clean his eyes after running the field. I don't use it all the time and somtimes his eyes water uzz and I think he flushes the objects out himself. Should I use it the eye ...
by zigzag
Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:49 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: pointing distance
Replies: 17
Views: 4047

Re: pointing distance

Sounds like his nose is great. What does his stalk look like from 50ft? Is it just getting birdy tail flagging and short search pattern? Or is it a full on creep/stalking?
by zigzag
Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:43 pm
Forum: Product Ratings & Reviews
Topic: TT or sportdog?
Replies: 23
Views: 8228

Re: TT or sportdog?

I have had the 1825 for 3 months now, so far no problems. I really did want to buy Tritronics but when it came down to the features for the $$$ I went with sportdog. I really like the 1 mile range it is legit 1 mile with low cover.
by zigzag
Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:47 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Can't get my GSP to gain wieght?
Replies: 24
Views: 7177

Re: Can't get my GSP to gain wieght?

Looks good to me. If it makes you feel better my Vizsla is 44lbs, 1yr this month. They dont all grow to be 60#
by zigzag
Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:45 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: stop to flush drills?
Replies: 15
Views: 4929

stop to flush drills?

I have 6 Homers. And want to start doing some stop to flush training in the yard. The equipment I have been training with up till this point is 1 manual bird launcher, whoa barrel, CC, Pinch collar, Blank pistol, E collar. Dog is 1yr and has a good foundation on Pigeons from launchers. Foundation tr...
by zigzag
Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:17 am
Forum: Training
Topic: 1st day on the collar
Replies: 26
Views: 4946

Re: 1st day on the collar

I had the same problem. I was using the classic 70. I sent it back and got the sport dog 1825. I really wanted to go with tritronics and buy the best collar I could afford. It came down to buying a less expensive collar with 5 times the features. So far I am very pleased with my purchase.
by zigzag
Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:58 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: food,food,food,......
Replies: 98
Views: 16196

Re: food,food,food,......

Like you I feed my dog puppy chow, purina one lamb and rice from the day I brought him home. If I had read more about it I would have just put him on canidea ALS from the start. I switched around 9 months with no problems been feeding ALS for 3 months now. If price was not a concern I would have cho...
by zigzag
Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:36 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: at what age do they point?
Replies: 25
Views: 4992

Re: at what age do they point?

btw congratulatuions on you Vizsla. GOOD choice :D
by zigzag
Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:33 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: at what age do they point?
Replies: 25
Views: 4992

Re: at what age do they point?

I wish I could post pics. did the wing on the string at the breeders house. All 3 males pointed I even got one to sorta honor if you wanna call it that at 10weeks old. I think it will point! Just dont do the wing on a string.
by zigzag
Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:21 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Puppy Adolescence?
Replies: 9
Views: 1530

Re: Puppy Adolescence?

agree with Crate training 100% and it helps alot to calm a dog down when they get the crazys going. I also train my pup for Go Lay down. Or somtimes pepole use go to your matt. I like this cuz it does not really make the crate a punishment or confinment. I can tell my dog GO lay down. and he knows t...
by zigzag
Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:58 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Pigeon loft and dog?
Replies: 3
Views: 643

Pigeon loft and dog?

I built my Pigeon loft in the back yard 6x6w 8ft high. Its all wire mesh on 2x4s. My dog runs in the yard and can see/smell pigeons in the loft. At first he went to loft and pointed at scent, now he just walks around it looking at birds with no point. My question is does anybody have experince with ...
by zigzag
Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:38 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: how to exercise new pup
Replies: 7
Views: 1162

Re: how to exercise new pup

WATER water water with new pup in the field they dont know how to regulate yet, as others have said. you need to be the one that stops the play/running cuz the pup may not no when to stop. I go with the age in weeks times 3 = minutes run. For a sporting dog in the first 16 weeks as a starting point....
by zigzag
Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:01 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: holding a point
Replies: 6
Views: 2213

Re: holding a point

If your like I was paying for birds then its hard to launch that bird when you know you should. If you have homing pigeons and a remote launcher just launch away and launch some more.. even if he doesint scent the bird but is walking to it and can see it flush/launch pop that bird. It worked for me ...
by zigzag
Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:07 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Economy Bird Launchers?
Replies: 7
Views: 2806

Re: Economy Bird Launchers?

Rayg rhanks for the input the DT launchers are spendy but the next step down is not alot of savings. Looks like the LCS with 3 launchers is only 100 bucks less then DT with 3 launchers. I have used the DT and when the battery is fresh they launch good!
by zigzag
Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:48 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Economy Bird Launchers?
Replies: 7
Views: 2806

Re: Economy Bird Launchers?

OK. I get everything your sayin. I just want a reliabule remote launcher that I can add 3 launchers. No bells and whistles, Whats on the market right now that fits my needs?
by zigzag
Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:21 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Economy Bird Launchers?
Replies: 7
Views: 2806

Economy Bird Launchers?

What type of Bird Launchers are folks using? I am looking at buying a system that is expandabule to at least 3 launchers. I have looked at the DT system and so far other then sticker shock! Its at the top of the list right now. Is there a system like the BL2 that can be put together for a cost savin...
by zigzag
Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:57 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Points losing intensity?
Replies: 21
Views: 3437

Re: Points losing intensity?

So, do you live in Portland or ZigZag? I live in portland. I just got a pigeon loft started with 7 young birds. I am in the market for a launcher or two. After running the dog again with Trainer Pigeons and launchers we got his points back on track, still some flagging but after poping some birds h...