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Tri-Tronics did have some problems with their collars holding a charge several years ago. I had problems with mine, and never got it to hold a charge, even after it was repaired twice. I bought a Dogtra collar after that. I worked great and was reliable, but I didn’t like it for training as well as ...

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Unless there is a medical need, leave him be. Neutering male dogs is essentially a political nanny state plot. There is not one medical or behavioral benefit to neutering a male. I would agree as well. The only possible benefit would be to eliminate the risk of testicular cancer. However, the risk ...

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I like hunting with other so we can share the experience. However, sometime I like to hunt alone, just me and the dogs. My only concern about hunting alone is one of safety. When I was young, and thought I was immortal, I didn't hesitate to hunt alone. However, I was hunting deer alone once, got my ...

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I know you're not looking to buy a new pickup, but here are some of the reasons I would buy Chevy or GMC if I were going to buy a new one: http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/11/chevy-vs-ford-in-heavy-duty-rumble-in-the-rockies.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyuo2nBUBus http://www.youtube.com/wat...

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Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:Yep I'm sure some people will BUY Anything the Gov't is selling.

I'm more concerned with buying a quality truck that will perform and last. The rest of that Gov. Motors crap is, well, just crap to me.

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how many miles is a duramax diesel engine good for?? found a 230,000 mile GMC Sierra that has had a 100,000 mile motor put into it. new tires, brakes, shocks, ball jts. I've seen them go 250k miles in commercial work vehicles. Most fleets will not consider getting rid of them before 200k miles. Wha...

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Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:The problem with GM is who want's stock in Gov't Motors

I do. A great truck is a great truck whether the Gov. owns a piece of the company or not.

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If you are planning a lot of towing in the future, I would go with a ¾-ton pickup. That eliminates Toyota, Honda & Nissan. Even if I was towing with a ½-ton, I wouldn’t pick Honda or Nissan. They just aren’t built for that kind of work. As far as engines, diesels definitely have the advantage for to...

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Usually the difference between a $600 puppy and a $2000 puppy is breeding. Breeders that have put a lot of time, effort, and money into developing their breeding program, and campaigning and testing their dogs, will usually charge more for them. But, a high price does not guarantee you will get the ...

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Jesse over your way you also have Klose who builds a wicked nice pit. http://www.bbqpits.com I just bought a Klose smoker used. I bought from a guy whose wife decided she didn't like smoked meats. He had it for 3 years and only used it a 1/2 dozen times. It was just taking up space in his yard. It ...

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I plan to go to see the dog training demonstrations. I might just learn something new! And, I'm sure I can't walk out of there without buying something, so I'll be looking at new products and dog training equipment. If you decide to get a booth, let us know. I will be sure to stop by and visit.

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Tanker, What are you planning to hunt? Pheasant & Hun hunting will be good at that time of year, but you're getting too late for sharptails. The sharpies will most likely have bunched up by then and be hard to approach. They get pretty spooky, and will flush before the dogs get close enough to point...

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Congrats! Good luck with training to the next level.

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Jered, When you put the launchers in the yard it is only to let the pup gets used to the sight, smell, and sound of a launcher. There will not be any birds in them, so the pup won’t be pointing them. When you move the launchers to the field with birds, you should try not to let the pup get close eno...

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I usually start by putting my launchers in the backyard (the launchers are not set, and no bird it inside). I let the pup smell them, and get used to seeing them. I pretty much ignore them, as if they aren’t even there. Once the pup is comfortable with them being in the yard, and pretty much ignores...

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1. Huns
2. Sharptials & Prairie Chickens
3. Pheasant

Those would be my top 3, but I enjoy hunting anything bird I can work my dogs on.

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I have hunted behind good trial dogs (AFC & NFC titled) that I would not want as a hunting dog. So lets hear the names? Not just a blanket statement. Escpecially the NFC you hunted over. The trial vs hunting dog debate really shows the lack of experience in one or the other areas I would never name...

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Personally, I don’t think there are that many dogs that are great field trial dogs and great hunting dogs, IMO and IME the only thing that keeps a great trial dog from being a great hunting dog is experience. Many great trial dogs simply do not have the time to develop as great hunting dogs, but yo...

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Personally, I don’t think there are that many dogs that are great field trial dogs and great hunting dogs, and vice versa. More than likely, they will be great at one and decent at the other. For that reason, if I wanted a great hunting dog, I would select a pup from lines being bred with the prima...

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Personally, I don’t think there are that many dogs that are great field trial dogs and great hunting dogs, and vice versa. More than likely, they will be great at one and decent at the other. For that reason, if I wanted a great hunting dog, I would select a pup from lines being bred with the primar...

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Hattrick wrote: Make sure you set the heeling stakes by the edge of the water when running a mock test!!!! The water is the diffence maker it gets them jacked up an can cause problems pulling you to get to the water inless you have trained for it. Its the little things you over look that you think ...

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Our cover dog trials are open to all breeds, how many setters and pointers ran in the NGSPA National Championship? As an aside, I didn't write that and it's not something that I would write even if my training partner running red setters in NAVHDA... I only wrote that as a comparison to the cover d...

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The problem is, opinions are purely subjective, and open to personal interpretation. Everyone has a right to one, but that doesn't make it true. And, your historical facts are based on cover dog trials, which is not necessarily the definitive standard for judging a great wild bird dog.

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Grouse Dog Guy wrote:
Greg Jennings wrote:Our cover dog trials are open to all breeds, how many setters and pointers ran in the NGSPA National Championship?

How many pointers and setters ran at the NAVHDA Invitational? The invitational is open to all breeds as well.

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Another thing is to have people with you during training. As Brad said earlier their will be people around during the test so have people around during training. You are absolutey correct. Several times, I have seen dogs get spooked by all those people standing around because they never saw that du...

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Ruth, You are doing the right thing by setting up the training to mimic the test. She may heel well, but remember, you will only have a 3’ wide space between the stakes. It is very tight. Unless the dog is used to that, it is easy for her to get confused and go around a stake rather than between the...

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Hi Ruth, I do not know what point you’re at in your dog’s training. However, I train for each portion of the test separately. Only after my dog is very reliable at each portion of the test would I attempt to string them all together. There is a certain level of mental toughness required to switch ge...

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Thanks guys. I think he's going to end up being a really nice dog. Now, I'm going to start working him toward UT. Lots of work to do, but with any luck, I hope to have him ready to test by next spring.

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I would start training for UT. There is no reason the duck search should hurt your dog’s steadiness. Plus, if done correctly, the duck search is fun for the dog, and provides an outlet for the dog to just enjoy itself. It’s almost a break from the pressures of training. However, before I train serio...

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Sundance Kane v Blackstone (“Kane”) earned a NA Prize 1 at the Missouri Uplands NAVHDA Chapter spring test last weekend, with a maximum score of 112 points. His field work was great. He even pulled off about a 200 yrd. track of a pheasant in the tracking portion of the test. He caught the pheasant, ...

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The only reason I trial or test is to spend more time with my dogs. Wild bird hunting is my passion.

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Could be a problem. Have him checked by a vet. Try cutting the pup off water earlier in the evening. You will just have to be more vigilant about not letting him get any water outside. It also could be a dog that has trouble holding its water. Some dogs are like that. I have a 2-1/2 year old female ...

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I would not shoot the bird. First, she broke point, and needs to learn that her movement causes the bird to get away. If you shoot the bird, no lesson learned! Second, you gave her a Whoa command (which I wouldn’t have done), and she ignored the command. If she gets the reward of a bird after ignori...

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Nice looking pup. Where did you get him? What are his bloodlines?

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Great looking pup. Nice intense point for only 5 months old.

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Quill, Sounds like you’re off to a good start. I think you just took too large of a step for your pup to handle at that stage. You went from captive pigeons in a launcher (low level of temptation) to wild chukar (extremely high level of temptation), with no conditioning steps in between. Steadiness ...

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Quill, What I meant is that many people don’t require their dogs to continue to remain steady when they go from training, testing, or trialing to actual hunting. Like I said, the temptation and excitement is much greater on wild birds, so the dog is more likely to break even if it has demonstrated s...

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Ba ha ha ha ha hah gag cough choke spew. Hound steady to pigeon in launcher but wants to chase wild Chukar. I now need to tame wild Chukar :| You need to work your dog on chukar. Game bird scent is always more exciting to a dog than pigeons. By the same token, wild chukar scent will be more excitin...

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Ray, Slight correction on your post. The DD and the German Wirehaired Pointer are essentially the same. The Wirehaired Pointing Griffon is different. Although the DK and the GSP are genetically the same, they have been bred to different standards, which means you will get a somewhat different type o...

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At this point, getting your pup pointing as soon as possible would be my number one priority. There us another "Training" thread, " Dog not pointing running right to bird" that lays out some good tips and techniques to help you accomplish this. Once he is pointing, I would work to make sure he is st...

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I would agree with the other advice you have gotten here. There is nothing wrong with starting whoa training now, but I would not put much pressure on the pup to master the command until after the test. Pups will sometimes rebel when pressured, and you don’t need him to decide that test day is the t...

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if given the chance to breed to an Axel or Kay today, I would jump at the chance. Did you ever see Axel or Kay or a son or daughter to know for sure? Just asking. Not personally. I have only seen pictures. They were around before I was into these dogs. However, I know a couple of very knowledgeable...

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That dog was whelped thirty-five years ago. Other than asking why on earth you'd revist Uodibar and Esser's Chick in the same pedigree, could your friend find something closer to modern? There's nothing wrong with having some of the great old dogs behind your dog. Axel v. Wasserschling shows up 75 ...

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4dabirds, what happens when you whoa the dog on first bird scent and it doesn't stop If the dog is not whoa trained I would not do the drill. If the dog does not stop in all circumstances it is not whoa trained. As far as prairies advice goes I agreed with him and said so. Where I differ is that I ...

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I wait until the dogs shows the mental maturity to handle the pressure of FF. That will vary from dog to dog. However, most of my pups have been 10 - 14 months old. It depends on the time of year they are born. They have ususally had at least part of a hunting season behind them, and have been worke...

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That dog was whelped thirty-five years ago. Other than asking why on earth you'd revist Uodibar and Esser's Chick in the same pedigree, could your friend find something closer to modern? There's nothing wrong with having some of the great old dogs behind your dog. Axel v. Wasserschling shows up 75 ...

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Cute pups. This would probably best be for another thread but IMO you can't pass on a "line" you can pass on dogs but what makes a line is the unique pairings that are made by the lines creator... Once the creator of the line is gone so is the line IMO. I think if you pass the dogs along to someone...

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Ezzy I gave what I thought was a good solution to the o.p.. Other people chimed in to say they would not take my advice when they do not even know what the advice is. How many dogs do I have? . what kind of dog do I have? How many dogs have I trained. I only understand one method. I never read anyt...

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Ezzy I gave what I thought was a good solution to the o.p.. Other people chimed in to say they would not take my advice when they do not even know what the advice is. How many dogs do I have? . what kind of dog do I have? How many dogs have I trained. I only understand one method. I never read anyt...

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I don't understand. The undercoat is part of the GSP breed standard. I have never seen an under coat listed as part of the breed standard for GSPs or DKs. I have never owned a GSP, or even seen one, with an undercoat, although I am sure there could be some out there that have under coats. Body mass...

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