Gun Dog Forum

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There are a lot more dogs being bred today, perhaps to many, so it stands to reason that there will be more good ones. However an outstanding individual is still an outsranding individual now or 50 years ago. Being able to find the one that is capable to compete at Ames and have the desire to do so ...

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Sooo, dogs no more about using their tongue than people do.

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Welcome to the forum. Except that the dog wastes a lot of time being called back regularly , and may bust birds responding to your command. Much better to use a cue for changing direction at a distance- if that is what you want. I prefer to let the dog go ( pointing breed) , having taught him to ho...

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THERE IS A DANGEROUS LINE HERE. Don't you think that PETA members think that our bird dogs running down a crippled bird is gruesome? What about hobbling a bird so it won't run during training? What about using live birds for training at all? I don't trap or chase game with dogs but I do support tho...

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I have the utmost respect for the animals and birds I hunt but animals are not sentient beings.

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I'm pretty sure that most people on here that own a dog other than a pointer would tell you to start off with a big club, preferably one made of oak.

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I have all the usuall stuff but the most important thing is a big bottle of tanquery.

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LOL Maybe that is why he is a displaced texan instead of a Texan.

My wife and I are both members.

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Beretta xplor lite.

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OK, I'll try this again. Unless the laws have changed you can get a federal permit to live trap raptors and relocate them. If some of you just want to have a little urinating contest then either kill the offending bird or don't. In my view you have a right to defend your livestock so do it however i...

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QuillGordon wrote:Strange, I swear I replied to this

Most likely there is better training material available today
Regardless, Wolters "Game Dog" is a better suit for the Upland Labrador

Books or no books that is a fantastic picture.

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Wolters is probably outdated. I read water dog about 40 years ago and gun dog about 30 years ago. That dates me and the books. At the time they were probably pretty good books. There are more modern books abvailable that are worse. If you want to read a real joke, read bird dog by Ben Williams, pure...

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How much of a problem raptors are depends on whose ox is being gored. How one handles problem raptors is up to them and OK with me.

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There used to be a federal live trap permit available for problem raptors. You could live trap and relocate them far enough away to keep them from coming back. Don't know that type of permit is still available.

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While Wolters book may not be the best, there are certainly books out there that are worse, much worse.

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If you ever chukar hunt with one of those beautys I'll just walk along side and catch your gun when you fall

and then claim it ofcourse. beautiful wood did you do any of the work yourself?

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I like the cardboard and use it for pups or young dogs that need it. I use homers if I want them to fly off. The good part is there are more ways than one to use a carded bird.

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I won't say a thing about your first question. It may just open a can of worms or be suicide to opine. To your second question, there is no substitute for wild birds, never has been, never will be.

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There are plenty of studys that show it is better to wait to alter working dogs, especialy breeds that might be prone to joint problems. People that are not able to stop their gyps from being bred should spay as soon as possible or if bred get the shot to abort, or not have females in the first place.

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Dave Walkers book would also be a good bet. Altering working dogs befor maturity has been known to cause some problems.

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I use an astro and a tracker collar. The country we hunt is rough, steep, and big. The tracker will usually pick up a signal when the astro will not. The tracker will not give you distance or exact direction but it works well enough that if I could only have one it would be a tracker.

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I have never hunted ND that time of year but snakes were around at the end of sept. and early oct. I use the snake vac and carry meds anytime snakes are a possibility.

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Larue, If this gyp is well bred and I believe she is, you do not have her overpriced.

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If you are not feeding fish oil I would try that. If I wanted to apply something on the dog you might try mastitus cream.

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It depends on what you do with your dogs. I have been told that if you hunt or trial a dog and condition really hard it is better to wait. If the breed you have is prone to hip problems it is better to wait. If the dog is mainly a pet with sporadic exercise it is not as important.

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It doesn't take much to turn a staunch pointing dog into a flusher - just shoot any and all bumped birds... done. Fact is, it takes some work and discipline to keep a dog staunch if you hunt them much. Have you done that? Or is it your theory, shared by many, but have you taken a well trained point...

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Getting dogs and guns into Canada is not a problem. The dogs need a health certificate from your vet and proof of a rabbies shot. The closer you do this before crossing the border the better. Stop on the U.S. side and have your guns checked so there is no question that you brought them in with you. ...

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Most of the dogs I have seen struck were running by or over the snake and in that case avoidence training would'nt help but would'nt hurt. I use the vacine and teach dogs to stay away from snakes. Anything you can do to help the dog is a good thing. When hunting in the early part of the season I car...

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ACooper wrote:Careful with how much pressure you put on her at this point.

Do you have access to remote launchers and birds?

Yep, any pressure may be to much pressure for a five month old pup. If you are that concerned keep her on the check cord.

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I would ask, do you hunt and does this pup show real potential as a hunting dog? If you say no to either you can decide along those lines. If you hunt with others who have dogs you had better put a stop to this, as was said yesterday. Most dogs will tell you by their posture when they are going to d...

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We hunt E MT, ND, and Canada most years. In MT we never saw a hun untill we got to NC or NE MT. I would recomend BM areas over blm. I am a retired cattleman and can tell you the blm ground in MT is the worst cared for I have ever seen. Also be prepared for lots and lots of cactus. The hatches every ...

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Where in Montana? You might try one of the indian reservations. Fort Peck has some good looking country and something akin to crp. We don't use guides so I can't help you there but a phone call will get you info on the reservations. Congrats on retirement it's the best. pm sent.

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four english pointers. Way to many right now but about right come hunting season.

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reba wrote:Pay once and cry once get the Garmin!!!!!!!

Yep.

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I'm going to take a wild guess here. If anyone owned a dog other than a pointer or english setter that could qualify for the NC at Ames, they would jump in with both front feet. Getting a gsp there ( or other breed) that could compete and DNA would be another matter. Such an ignorant response. Do y...

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I'm going to take a wild guess here. If anyone owned a dog other than a pointer or english setter that could qualify for the NC at Ames, they would jump in with both front feet. Getting a gsp there ( or other breed) that could compete and DNA would be another matter.

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I was one of those evil cattlemen and farmers. I am retired, not rich though. If you don't mind 20 hour days in the snow in winter and heat in summer by all means be a cowboy and or farmer. You will need a wife that does'nt mind working for wages outside the home (to make ends meet) and then help ou...

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Neil wrote:Good manners are important afield in people and dogs.

Dogs must honor.

Yep and it's usually easier to train the dogs than the people. :roll:

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For you boys that hunt all day or dawn till dusk. How many birds are you killing from dawn till dusk. I don't know why anyone would want to hunt all day. First of all I would miss cocktail hour and secondly the limit here is 8, while we usually only kill 6 to 8 birds a day, if I had to hunt all day ...

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Don't kid yourselves. It has a lot to do with anti-breeder AR agendas, also. An insurance inspector that is an animal rights fan can sway your company. It happened to me and I did'nt have a comercial kennel. They simply said the dogs were a liability they did not want to deal with. The bottom line,...

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Speed and stamina or even bird finding ability are not the only thing that it takes to make a true AA dog. One of the things that sort them out is the ability to take the huge amount of pressure that the training to get to Ames undertakes. That is why you see some dogs tails start to drop and some j...

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How long a dog can hunt at a given pace may depend on the country and the quarry. We hunt chukar for the most part in country that could cripple a mule. I would not hunt all day in that terrain and would not expect a dog to either. A dog that runs at full speed (what ever that might be)for 5 hours i...

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I don't know how far you are from Burns but there is a man there named Mcginnis (not sure of that spelling) who is excellent. He has had dogs at the national at Ames. I can get his number if you want it. McGinnis lives in North Powder aka Baker City, about 2 hours from Burns. Yep, thanks Baker some...

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I don't know how far you are from Burns but there is a man there named Mcginnis (not sure of that spelling) who is excellent. He has had dogs at the national at Ames. I can get his number if you want it.

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Try lion country supply. If that wont work get in touch and I will send you a pattern.

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I'm with chukar12 on this one. To many chukar dogs on the ground can be a wreck and sometimes two is to many. San Fran is still my favorite city especially the great food and wine.

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5 months might be a little young for an e collar. It does depend on the pup and your experiance with training.

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Hey Jeff, are you going to be using a call back pen? Your quail will last a lot longer that way and they work well untill the quail start pairing up.

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nice pics, thanks. I used to spend quite a bit of time in LA in the Sunset area.

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I too had a dog lose an eye to a cat. The dog walked by the cats bed and the cat took a swipe at it. I'm no fan of cats so I would get rid of the cat before the pup came home.

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