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Redneck

I have been very unsatisified with the 2 DT's I bought. The beeper quit working within 1 month. They also both tend to stick and don't release right away or sometimes not at all. One of their reps told me this is a common problem. I would try something else. I have 2 B&B types that are over 20 y/o a...

Redneck

I agree with most of what Ray and Neil have said except 1 caveat - I don't feel that the dogs run as big as they used too. I believe this is for several reasons. 1) we get more and more limited as to the size and availability of both training and trailing grounds so dogs HAVE to handle better. 2) To...

Redneck

Congrats to all of setter doom!

Redneck

Rumor has it the setter is in........I know Gates was called and asked to return

Redneck

Most folks are of the general opinion that any dog has only a certain number of 3 hour heats in them - it is that telling on them physically. No one is there simply to run their dog into the ground just to prove the dog can do it - they are there to win, and if you aren't obviously beating the dogs...

Redneck

Actually I was talking about the owner that handled his own dogs to win the NC And the point remains it is not money holding us back. If a school teacher, a state employee, and small farmers can do it, so could any of us I have no knowledge of who the school teacher is, but both your farmer and sta...

Redneck

I think this thread should have divided into owners and handlers. I don't think many of the professional handlers are getting "rich". However, as of Aug. 2012, the avg. household income in the US was $50,000, and if it costs in the neighborhood of $20,000 to campaign a dog on the AA circuit, it does...

Redneck

I just want to throw this one out there... In all the years I have been running pointers, I have not had a single one that would not retrieve. Some were better than others and one kinda preferred to point dead, and would occasionally trap a wounded bird under its paws and wait for me, but every sin...

Redneck

Redneck I no they dont shoot birds at FTs and im not trying to change that. I respect all the dog games for what they are. I just feel after a dog finds and points a bird with style it should finished with a powerfull retrieve, to me that is a complete birddog. I will be doing FTs this spring and f...

Redneck

Reading all this makes me happy I have the opportunity to compete in coverdog trials where we can trial and hunt the same dogs on wild birds. Virtually every coverdog champion that I know of is a hunting dog. I'm saddened to hear that is not the case in other venues. Youve got to appreciate the wil...

Redneck

It's senseless to argue the field trial dog vs hunting dog because if the owner is happy with his dog that is all that really matters. Don't agree. As sportsman, we have the privilege to go hunting...but we have the responsibility to take home what we shoot. Personally, I am tired of hunting in ND ...

Redneck

[quote="Hattrick"]This kills me these are birddogs, birddogs should retrieve why are so many people afraid of this? I keep hearing not all hunting dogs can trail but all trail dogs can hunt right? Well if they hunt i hope they can retrieve. Pointing is only half the work.Retrieving does show desire ...

Redneck

Saddle wrote: I love field trialing and I love the sport but unfortunately a dog doesn't have to be a great bird dog to be a great field trial dog. Sad but true.

I would say that a dog doesnt have to be a great bird dog to win a trial, but to be a great trial dog he'll have to be a great bird dog.

Redneck

If field trials truly were developed to promote the "better dogs" from the hunting dog masses, the retrieve is the final part of the job. however, If the trails were developed as a game only with no intentions of promoting the dogs that demonstrate superior hunting skills, then I can understand no ...

Redneck

I would much rather kill the first bird on course than do callbacks. But I have limited FT experience so take it for what it's worth. It would reflect the hunting situation alot more. We used to perform all retrieves on course - there was no bird field. It seemed to change about the time society be...

Redneck

Looks like the setter people may have something to cheer about..... The dog didn't look that good in some of the pics.......also, rumor has it that some of those reported backs were actually divided finds at which Gates fired his gun.......I wasn't there and don't know what actually happened, but I...

Redneck

Looks like the setter people may have something to cheer about.....

Redneck

That all sounds nice in theory Greg but if that's the case then why did they ban Millers dogs and not just him. How long do you think it'll take before white powder gets into the Hall of Fame. Does anyone on this board really think that game maker and southern pride contributed more to the pointer ...

Redneck

Redneck wrote:Interesting brace this am......not only is Lester running his best dog, against one of his former dogs, but he's also got to think about protecting his" lead".....

Turned out to be pretty uneventful........next setter up tomorrow

Redneck

[quote="Neil"]It is unwritten, but it is very much a rule. I have never heard of a dog winning a major stake with 3 UPs. And I am not saying it shouldn't be, just seems interesting it is the same no matter the length of heat. As a hunter, after a haul my fat butt in front of a dog, I won't accept 2 ...

Redneck

I would call jack a pretty good birddog as well. Not just all run. heck you've run against him. He's a hard dog to run down if you're chasing him in his own tracks. I think randy will dial him down enough to make a good showing. This is one of the reasons they're not running Sam (Three Ten to Yuma)...

Redneck

...how Lester reacts if he finds himself in position of protecting his current status with Dialing In... That whole scenario is interesting because of so many variables. A. Mr. Lester is an Amateur, thus does not have any client to answer to (other than the Company :)). B. How confident is he that ...

Redneck

I've watched jack go and he goes no matter who is in the saddle. Should be a great bra e though. I've seen and competed against both these dogs many times......I've judged both handlers and competed against one many times.......If it were just about turning a couple of great dogs loose and seein' w...

Redneck

wish i was there tomorrow Happy Jack and sno in the same brace..... will be interesting to see how Happy Jack reacts......and also how Lester reacts if he finds himself in position of protecting his current status with Dialing In....if Anderson can handle the situations that could possibly arise......

Redneck

Interesting brace this am......not only is Lester running his best dog, against one of his former dogs, but he's also got to think about protecting his" lead".....

Redneck

Middle Creek on this forum has some nice GSP pups for sale.

Redneck

Millers Dialing In is setting the pace with 7 finds and finished the 3 hours.

Redneck

Third brace looks interesting. Millers Happy Jack braced against his old handler , Gary Lester. Wonder how this will affect the dog?

Redneck

SCT wrote:Has there been many 8 year olds or older win the National?? I would think 5-7 years old would be optimal.

I believe Whipporwill Rebel was 10 when he won for the second time.

Redneck

jimssetters wrote:Is there a list of the dogs that made it? Mainly the Setters is what i am interested in.

I believe there are 3 setters nominated. You can check the Ames Plantation website to be sure.

Redneck

CHJIII wrote:I'm pulling for the GSP's....HeeHee....sorry I had too

I think it would be cool if a GSP qualified !

Redneck

Cajun Casey wrote:We are pulling for Miller's Happy Jack and White Dollar. GO, TEAM CROSS COUNTRY!

They've got Prairieland Pride nominated also. I don't think Anderson has ever won the national.

Redneck

Anyone on here interested in the National Championship ? If so, what dogs do you favor? Stallion is the hottest right now, but you can never count out In The Shadow. I think a dark horse could be Erin's Kentucky Gambler. You never know cuz the weather can play such a big role.

Redneck

If you're only talking a couple of months, and it really is something you want to do yourself, give the dog the time off and finish her when you 're able. You'll spend a month reinforcing the trainers work under your whistle anyway.

Redneck

Now the real tough concept for you to understand. I am 100% behind anyone who gets out and does something with their dogs and I wish them all the best and hope their dogs please them. Where it breaks down is when the courtesy is not returned - when I am told that because I run a dog in a trial I am...

Redneck

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Redneck

Yes, Scott is ramped up again. He just finished running at the Ok Open. His phone number is in the Field. If you dont get the Field, pm me and i can get you his info.

Redneck

Francois P vd Walt wrote:
Saddle wrote:I doubt it. The dog is either a shooting dog or an all age dog. Good judges know the difference.
A close working dog can never get out like a AA dog :roll:

A close working dog is also not a shooting dog.

Redneck

Saddle wrote:I doubt it. The dog is either a shooting dog or an all age dog. Good judges know the difference.

Good judges use the best performances they see during that stake, rather than trying to keyhole the dogs into what are very unclear standards.

Redneck

Field trials initially ran 2 stakes, AA and derby. SD was introduced to attract new trailers ie hunters. This is where the bias regarding AA dogs being the true trial dogs developed. This bias is why so many of today's AA dogs really aren't true AA, but they're handlers simply won't run SD because t...

Redneck

Stan has never judged the National. Nor ran in the national, nor qualified for the national, nor ever even ran a dog in a national qualifier ! Stan made his success in the NBHA walking trials. He and Scott gave it a go on the open shooting dog circuit for a brief period. Sure are a lot of folks who...

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