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by gonehuntin'
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Dog is “soft”
Replies: 22
Views: 508

Re: Dog is “soft”

Remember that not all dog's mature at the same rate. I had a setter about 20 years ago that was a worthless piece of garbage at 10 months. He was my son's pet and though I wanted to end his miserable existance, I didn't. I sent him to a trainer because I was far to busy to work him and didn't have g...
by gonehuntin'
Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:50 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Hanging Game
Replies: 7
Views: 216

Re: Hanging Game

I find no need to hang birds. If a bird has a disagreeable taste, it's usually because it was cooked well done and not rare. I shoot em', grill em' and eat em'.
by gonehuntin'
Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Is It Time to Give Up?
Replies: 28
Views: 891

Re: Is It Time to Give Up?

" It's too late this year with hunting season approaching". That comment really interests me and I think it shows, or may show, a big problem many have. Train the dog during the year and let it go to heck during hunting season. This is your golden opportunity. You can certainly hunt, but do it witho...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Is It Time to Give Up?
Replies: 28
Views: 891

Re: Is It Time to Give Up?

Hands on training. IF the dog is throughly conditioned to the ecollar, you now have to take it off and put on tennis shoes. When he makes a mistake, run the pirate down and show him the errors of his ways. This is no place for a bleeding heart. I believe setting up a fake NSTRA trial is your best o...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:12 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Is It Time to Give Up?
Replies: 28
Views: 891

Re: Is It Time to Give Up?

Hands on training. IF the dog is throughly conditioned to the ecollar, you now have to take it off and put on tennis shoes. When he makes a mistake, run the pirate down and show him the errors of his ways. This is no place for a bleeding heart.
by gonehuntin'
Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:25 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How many gun dogs?
Replies: 19
Views: 818

Re: How many gun dogs?

Since you're committed to two dogs, stagger them. Five years apart is about right. That way you're never without a dog when one can't hunt anymore.
by gonehuntin'
Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Recall with ecollar question
Replies: 11
Views: 527

Re: Recall with ecollar question

What AG has just posted is what every good EC training system does. Rex pioneered it a zillion years ago. Everyone now is just copying the Carr system.
by gonehuntin'
Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Wireless Remote Thermometer
Replies: 21
Views: 5311

Re: Wireless Remote Thermometer

Just go to Target or Walmart. They have tons of them.
by gonehuntin'
Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How many gun dogs?
Replies: 19
Views: 818

Re: How many gun dogs?

It's nice to have two dogs. If one gets hurt. Other than that, by having one dog, in great shape, that pooch gets all of the work and will develop into a less dependent, more experienced dog much faster. Two dog's are twice the work. For most of my life I have had two or many more dogs to fall back ...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:56 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Recall with ecollar question
Replies: 11
Views: 527

Re: Recall with ecollar question

People do it both ways but continuous for recall has never made and sense to me. Using continuous, the dog can not win. Even when they obey the command and come, they are being stimulated. I like the nick. Here, Nick Here! Keep alternating between voice and juice. If the dog is coming on it's own af...
by gonehuntin'
Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:15 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Orange book
Replies: 5
Views: 582

Re: Orange book

I doubt the site is good but maybe. There is ONE for sale on Amazon for $399.00.
by gonehuntin'
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Feather Aversion
Replies: 4
Views: 480

Re: Feather Aversion

My guess would be, your dog hasn't seen of handled many live birds. Before you get in to more training issues, just try throwing some clip wing pigeons and see what happens. If the dog doesn't grab the bird, it walks or flutters away. Perhaps things have been too formalized for the dog. Don't panic ...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Summer heat and dog transport
Replies: 11
Views: 1172

Re: Summer heat and dog transport

I field trialed dogs in some of the hottest spots in the West: Utah, Arizona, S.Cal, etc. First, I would never carry a dog in a truck bed without a topper. That's a non starter with me. Those toppers like ARE offer tremendous insulation from the sun. When on the road it you ventilate, it shouldn't ...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:45 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Fetching issue
Replies: 13
Views: 1407

Re: Fetching issue

I'd worry if I were you. Does the lab have a good field or field trial pedigree? That's the first thing. Most Lab's are absolute retrieving machines. You can't throw enough balls, frisbees, bumpers, etc. to tire them out. They are making headway, but still, if you're going to have a problem it will ...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:35 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Summer heat and dog transport
Replies: 11
Views: 1172

Re: Summer heat and dog transport

I field trialed dogs in some of the hottest spots in the West: Utah, Arizona, S.Cal, etc. First, I would never carry a dog in a truck bed without a topper. That's a non starter with me. Those toppers like ARE offer tremendous insulation from the sun. When on the road it you ventilate, it shouldn't b...
by gonehuntin'
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:12 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: How to teach "turning"?
Replies: 44
Views: 3105

Re: How to teach "turning"?

Pheasant really appreciate the handler singing to a dog.

I prefer a dog to work to my commands so I have control over the dog.
by gonehuntin'
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:52 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Need advice on my Brittany Spaniel puppy problems
Replies: 10
Views: 1321

Re: Need advice on my Brittany Spaniel puppy problems

Ray has it. Never allow ANY pipe to bite you; that's the cardinal sin. I do same as Ray. First I pinch their nose so hard they scream and command NO! If that doesn't work I hold the mouth shut and bite their nose, not muzzle. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PLAY BITING! ALLOW NO PUP TO BITE!
by gonehuntin'
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Boykin rebelling
Replies: 7
Views: 786

Re: Boykin rebelling

Teach him to recall anytime, anyplace, anywhere. Your problem is in the recall, not the retrieve.
by gonehuntin'
Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What is the MOST money you've seen or heard a dog sell for?
Replies: 39
Views: 3417

Re: What is the MOST money you've seen or heard a dog sell for?

30 years ago was pretty common for a field trial contender to go from 10-20,000.00. Have no idea today what they're bringing. Since there's no money, only prestige involved, seems like there would be a cap on their worth. Wouldn't there be significant stud fees that could allow some recouping of th...
by gonehuntin'
Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:16 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Tracking dog miles
Replies: 10
Views: 1046

Re: Tracking dog miles

I really don't give a rats behind how far a dog runs. When they're tired, I put them up. When not, I let em' run. If you can't tell when your dog needs rest, you maybe shouldn't own one. In the wrong hands, measured miles can be a very dangerous tool. People get overly competetive and push their dog...
by gonehuntin'
Wed May 27, 2020 6:14 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What is the MOST money you've seen or heard a dog sell for?
Replies: 39
Views: 3417

Re: What is the MOST money you've seen or heard a dog sell for?

Mask, the saying is dated so that's why they "met" - past tense. :wink: Well, I've owned dogs I wouldn't sell for $26,000 BUT what does it take? What if a person offered me $50,000? Still no? What if they offered $100,000? It's hard to say. We aren't all in the same financial situation. I sold a yo...
by gonehuntin'
Fri May 22, 2020 12:17 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What is the MOST money you've seen or heard a dog sell for?
Replies: 39
Views: 3417

Re: What is the MOST money you've seen or heard a dog sell for?

30 years ago was pretty common for a field trial contender to go from 10-20,000.00. Have no idea today what they're bringing. Since there's no money, only prestige involved, seems like there would be a cap on their worth.
by gonehuntin'
Tue May 05, 2020 4:49 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Signs your dog is over worked?
Replies: 10
Views: 1470

Re: Signs your dog is over worked?

I'm aware every day. Just watch your dog. Some are more heat tolerant than others. Like much of owning a dog, it's common sense. The hotter it gets, the more danger the dog's in. Work early in the morning when it's hot.
by gonehuntin'
Mon May 04, 2020 5:21 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP
Replies: 40
Views: 3679

Re: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP

I wasn't picking on you Garrison, it was a general observation and I'm as guilty as the next guy. In general many of these posted questions are answered in the first six replies. Then the drivel and battling starts. :D That's the internet.
by gonehuntin'
Mon May 04, 2020 1:51 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP
Replies: 40
Views: 3679

Re: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP

Always amazing, and Ive been guilty too, how these threads turn into pissing matches over the most trivial of things.
by gonehuntin'
Mon May 04, 2020 1:04 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Signs your dog is over worked?
Replies: 10
Views: 1470

Re: Signs your dog is over worked?

Watch for heavy panting and lethargy. They become lackadaisical and lose interest in working. They pant heavily and may just plop down. Sometimes their back end goes and they start to wobble. Look at the gums. Bright red means their in distress. Should be pink. Don't pour water on the head. Does no ...
by gonehuntin'
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:21 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP
Replies: 40
Views: 3679

Re: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP

Brian; when you say your dog became a "boot licker" what do you mean by that? To you, what is a "boot licker"?
by gonehuntin'
Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Hunting Rig
Replies: 13
Views: 1521

Re: Hunting Rig

I've gone my entire life having dogs in a specially constructed dog truck or the back of a pickup truck. Finally went to a 4Runner this year since I'm down to one dog. I love it. Why? The dog is inside with me and I can climate control it exactly. Rear window goes up and down, side windows, sun roof...
by gonehuntin'
Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:42 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Hard-mouth AFTER Trained
Replies: 5
Views: 969

Re: Hard-mouth AFTER Trained

CJ is on the right track. Most hard mouth is ill perceived or man made.
by gonehuntin'
Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:16 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP
Replies: 40
Views: 3679

Re: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP

AG, did you read in his post he's hunting CANYON? There are not many, if any dogs, that can hunt canyons all day, for five days, and not end up a "bootlicker". I'll go a step further and say I've NEVER seen one. That's some steep, up and down country he's talking about.
by gonehuntin'
Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP
Replies: 40
Views: 3679

Re: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP

I think you're expecting too much for the country you're hunting. As long as the dog doesn't quit, that's all you can expect. A lot of GWP's will hit kind of a fast trot and go all day. I personally don't believe there's a dog that can handle really cold water yet run the mountains. The one that wou...
by gonehuntin'
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Genetics vs. Training
Replies: 44
Views: 3777

Re: Genetics vs. Training

Every good trainer was a horrible loser. Once a client of mine asked my wife " Does Mac still stay mad all the way home?" She replied, " No, he's much better now. He's only mad for the first 250 miles."
by gonehuntin'
Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:59 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Genetics vs. Training
Replies: 44
Views: 3777

Re: Genetics vs. Training

Most trainers will tell you that a good dog is a good dog regardless of color and breed. Did you mean to say regardless of any color and white? :lol: Sorry, couldn’t resist! I know not every dog can be really good and even fewer great. But for the majority, maybe the confusion lies in the fact that...
by gonehuntin'
Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:52 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Genetics vs. Training
Replies: 44
Views: 3777

Re: Genetics vs. Training

Most trainers will tell you that a good dog is a good dog regardless of color and breed.
by gonehuntin'
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:16 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Strange behaviour on point
Replies: 42
Views: 3671

Re: Strange behaviour on point

Shags nailed this post many posts ago, hurt feelings or not.
by gonehuntin'
Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:30 am
Forum: Training
Topic: A little help with "hold"
Replies: 31
Views: 3043

Re: A little help with

Dog's are place learners. So yes, you may totally ff him and have him look at you and refuse a bird in the field. That's the purpose of force. Now you can go up to him and MAKE him pick up the bird and bring it to you. It's another tool for your training box and now you can see why people ff.
by gonehuntin'
Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:09 am
Forum: Training
Topic: A little help with "hold"
Replies: 31
Views: 3043

Re: A little help with

Someone mentioned jowl pinch. Could you please elaborate on the jowl pinch please. Thanks to everyone for the help. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Here you go. It is an absolute key to a smooth FF and one rarely mentioned. If done well and you don't want to, you never have to go to the ear or...
by gonehuntin'
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:39 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: A little help with "hold"
Replies: 31
Views: 3043

Re: A little help with

Nor should you have to. Do you know what the jowl pinch is? That should solve your problems.
by gonehuntin'
Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: A little help with "hold"
Replies: 31
Views: 3043

Re: A little help with

What a load of crap. If you are forcing a dog to do something, it's going to involve discomfort.
by gonehuntin'
Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:57 am
Forum: Training
Topic: A little help with "hold"
Replies: 31
Views: 3043

Re: A little help with

Why are you force fetching him if you don't want to cause him physical pain? Makes no sense.
by gonehuntin'
Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:28 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Dog Being a Baby
Replies: 38
Views: 3434

Re: Dog Being a Baby

Gonehuntin', I appreciate what you are saying and couldn't agree with you more. I built my training reputation on taking 4 dogs in at a time...MAX. I used to take 6 when I was a bit younger. It's true. Some trainers have 20+ dogs and staff to help. With four dog's max, you must be charging at least...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Dog Being a Baby
Replies: 38
Views: 3434

Re: Dog Being a Baby

So, here's the deal with leaving a pup with a trainer. They don't get much work and social interaction. A trainer may carry 20 dog's. Those dog's are trained daily but not given a lot of time. A pro is very efficient, makes no or few mistakes and doesn't need a lot of time with the dog's. In my opin...
by gonehuntin'
Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:27 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Dog Being a Baby
Replies: 38
Views: 3434

Re: Dog Being a Baby

At five months, I'd have never put that pup with a professional trainer. Pup is a baby yet. Pro's are not geared to training puppies and it's a terrible waste of your money.
by gonehuntin'
Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Stubborn pup
Replies: 26
Views: 2316

Re: Stubborn pup

If all you want is a retriever, you really picked the wrong dog. Should have gotten a lab.
by gonehuntin'
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Bell or no bell?
Replies: 38
Views: 3468

Re: Bell or no bell?

No bells. "A bell stops when you need it the most". GPS only.
by gonehuntin'
Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:45 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Commands for multiple dogs
Replies: 27
Views: 5821

Re: Commands for multiple dogs

Fitter: I always hunt with multiple dogs. This can be a bit of and issue. With pointing dogs that are experienced hunter, we use very few commands in the field. Basically none so it is not and issue. You can control that somewhat by using the dogs name as a prefix to the command. Like "Spot, Here"....
by gonehuntin'
Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:44 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: "Roading" tips- bike or treadmill?
Replies: 17
Views: 4050

Re: "Roading" tips- bike or treadmill?

Until now, I have always been able to road my dogs off a bike on gravel trails. Suddenly old age had taken over and I can't cruise along at 12-15 anymore. That's fast on a bike on gravel. I am now contemplating an Electric Assist Bike. They are legal on nearly all bike trails vs a full electric. You...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:00 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Should i let me Brittany actually play with and catch a live bird
Replies: 13
Views: 2938

Re: Should i let me Brittany actually play with and catch a live bird

I don't let a pup catch a bird they've pointed. I let them ALL chase and catch clip wings I throw for them. Greatest thing in the world to develop excitement in pups and show them wheat they've been put on tis earth to do. People that don't do this are ones that wonder why their dog won't retrieve c...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Hold Command
Replies: 14
Views: 2756

Re: Hold Command

I have never understood the need for the hold command. What does fetch mean? I take that to mean go get it pick it up and bring it here! Now will hold send the dog? I don't think so unless the trainer interput's it different than I would. When taking the dog down to the table to retrieve, what comm...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:52 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Hold Command
Replies: 14
Views: 2756

Re: Hold Command

JOWLS; THE FORGOTTEN STEP. Force fetch is so misunderstood on nearly every board that is not a retriever specialty board. People try to short cut it, change it, use too much pressure, use too little pressure. There is a step between HOLD and the EAR PINCH. That forgotten and omitted step is the JOWL...