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by gonehuntin'
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:01 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Any tips to stop dog from counter?
Replies: 20
Views: 532

Re: Any tips to stop dog from counter?

The word NO! Followed by "Come to Jesus" meeting.
by gonehuntin'
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:50 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Normal for tracking collar? Pro 550 plus
Replies: 8
Views: 278

Re: Normal for tracking collar? Pro 550 plus

No it sounds like your unit is not functioning properly. My 550+ correctly points the direction to the dog at all distances beyond 20 feet. I am not sure however if what you are experiencing is simply delay which is unavoidable as signals must go up and down to a satellite. Delay coupled with a fas...
by gonehuntin'
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:48 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Tips for teaching fetch or retrieve?
Replies: 18
Views: 648

Re: Tips for teaching fetch or retrieve?

Is she starting in the Living Room or Dining Room?😂😂
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:27 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Tips for teaching fetch or retrieve?
Replies: 18
Views: 648

Re: Tips for teaching fetch or retrieve?

IF I didn't want to get into FF, I'd use what the DOG liked. Squeaky toy, dead bird, pet cat; I wouldn't care as long as the pup enjoyed picking it up and carrying it.
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: collar ?
Replies: 12
Views: 438

Re: collar ?

What do you want the collar for? Just training? Training and location? GPS mapping? Single dog or multi-dog's? Only one has it all and it's awkward to use. If I'm using a collar for training there is one feature I absolutely demand: TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE INTENSITY WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE TRANSMITTER. ...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:21 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Tips for teaching fetch or retrieve?
Replies: 18
Views: 648

Re: Tips for teaching fetch or retrieve?

Sometimes ,the game perceived by the pup (any breed) ends when the chase has finished ? Similar to the situation described with the frisbee. Sometimes ,the objective for the handler is to make the dog (any breed) bring it back,when all the pup understands is chase and sometimes the handler continua...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:19 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Dog not "going with" me
Replies: 14
Views: 668

Re: Dog not "going with" me

To me it's a simple case of the dog not coming when called. There is NO excuse for this. It doesn't matter where the dog is and what it's doing, when you command HERE, the dog should immediately cease and desist it's action returning to your side.
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:16 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Recall question
Replies: 12
Views: 437

Re: Recall question

Whenever I'm out in the yard, the pup is dragging a 20', 1/8" check cord. I use HERE. I hate the "come" command. Perhaps because I'm too old to do it on command. :D :P Keep in mind that the electric collar reinforces KNOWN commands. You don't teach with it. I do all my teaching on the cc. From four ...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:06 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training / hunting question - missed shots
Replies: 16
Views: 658

Re: Training / hunting question - missed shots

Easiest solution is to train her to come when called. Always. Then you can easily call her off a bird. The danger in doing what you are is that the dog may associate the nick of the collar with the bird and begin blinking birds. Only after the dog knows commands in the YARD should they be reinforced...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:25 am
Forum: Training
Topic: roading
Replies: 13
Views: 684

Re: roading

Never and I mean never, attach yourself to the dog while roading it. If that dog puts on the brakes or runs after something, you're going down. I free run mine on a trail with an ecollar on them.
by gonehuntin'
Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Is a training table important?
Replies: 6
Views: 392

Re: Is a training table important?

I like using training table but you certainly don't have to build one. I just lay an 8' strip of 3/4" plywood about a foot wide between two chairs. Accomplishes all that a table will and you don't need a place to store an awkward table. You may only use a table once every 5-10 years so it isn't wort...
by gonehuntin'
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:06 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: hunting too fast
Replies: 37
Views: 1462

Re: hunting too fast

First, you dog went from planted birds to wild grouse in Michigan, the toughest of all birds to point. I have always felt that the faster the dog, the more grouse they'll pin. Just let him be a dog. He'll learn. Range. 80-100 yards in the grouse woods is about right. Many think it's too close. Tough...
by gonehuntin'
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Whoa Post-Neck vs Flank
Replies: 7
Views: 404

Re: Whoa Post-Neck vs Flank

I'm not a believer in the collar on the flank. I begin by teaching whoa with a pinch collar from the heel position. Once the dog is through it's obedience, I transfer it to the ecollar. The dog will live it's whole life with a collar on it's neck. No need for the flank collar IMO.
by gonehuntin'
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Problems with 8yr old GSP
Replies: 16
Views: 698

Re: Problems with 8yr old GSP

To me, when he stops to flush he's telling you they ran and he couldn't successfully relocate. Same with the wind. The wind thing is a fluke in my opinion. Sure nothing I'd get on the dog for. Unless. I saw him scent the birds then road in on them. It's really hard though to know when the bird runs ...
by gonehuntin'
Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:59 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: FF or wait?
Replies: 62
Views: 2948

Re: FF or wait?

Photo from this morning. Hence the title "Perfect Retrieve" https://i.imgur.com/rfpqu2Bl.jpg Nobody has mentioned this here, but the way that dog is presenting the bird to AG is the PERFECT presentation. He is sitting, not standing. His nose is straight up looking at the handler. When in this posit...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: Training
Topic: FF or wait?
Replies: 62
Views: 2948

Re: FF or wait?

My plan right now depending on a few things is to hunt him some this November/December. I'm going to order the Perfect Retrieve DVD We're I you, I'd get smart FETCH by Evan Grahm. It's the method we've been using to ff dogs for 50 years and the best system out there. I have not seen the Perfection ...
by gonehuntin'
Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Full grown GWP
Replies: 5
Views: 539

Re: Full grown GWP

I always told people they grew up for a year and out for a year. Rough guide.
by gonehuntin'
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: My Fall Conundrum.......
Replies: 22
Views: 1068

Re: My Fall Conundrum.......

Was never a problem with me. I chased Musky until mid Oct. I chased big bucks from Halloween until Nov. 10th. All the rest of the time I bird hunted.
by gonehuntin'
Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:33 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: FF or wait?
Replies: 62
Views: 2948

Re: FF or wait?

Wait until spring unless he starts eating of destroying every bird. If that happens, hunting will do him no good. Pull him out and ff him.
by gonehuntin'
Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Force fetch with positive and negative reinforcement
Replies: 12
Views: 857

Re: Force fetch with positive and negative reinforcement

If I'm competing in AKC Fioeld Trials, the dog is going to ear pinched, stick fetched and ecollar fetched. He has to be for the complexity of the tests and training involved. What kind of pointing dog AKC field trials are you in where the dog has to retrieve? Other than a call back, perhaps, for a ...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:43 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Force fetch with positive and negative reinforcement
Replies: 12
Views: 857

Re: Force fetch with positive and negative reinforcement

Ahhh, the FF topic again. I think FF is changing a lot FOR THE AMATURE or non-competetive person. If I'm competing in AKC Fioeld Trials, the dog is going to ear pinched, stick fetched and ecollar fetched. He has to be for the complexity of the tests and training involved. For the Hunter, that just i...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:06 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dogs under a truck topper
Replies: 15
Views: 1445

Re: Dogs under a truck topper

I wonder if you can get a after market sliding rear window. I have haul dogs in ll kinds of weather in that setup with a bicycle tube between the topper an the cab. Had the tube blow out once. That was freaky.....Cj Bicycle tube is genius. I've used the ones you buy for sealing that area and I don'...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:34 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dogs under a truck topper
Replies: 15
Views: 1445

Re: Dogs under a truck topper

I have a 16 year old Tundra with a 16 year old ARE cap. Great cap. To bad you don't have a slider in your PU. Get the ARE with a slider in front and fully opening side windows. It'll run around 2600 from Toys For Trucks. If you had a slider that opens in the PU, you could run an air conditioner hose...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Pickiness with dummies
Replies: 18
Views: 1283

Re: Pickiness with dummies

I assume the dog is not electric collar conditioned? You're seeing one of a multitude of problems equated with not FFing a dog. Try this. Put a very lite, 50' check cord on the dog. Put six bumpers out 20' away, scattered in a tight circle. Now throw a bumper to the pile and send the dog. When the d...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Organizing a training day
Replies: 10
Views: 897

Re: Organizing a training day

First thing is to have a very good trainer there that won't take crap from anyone. If you don't maintain control of the group you'll have know it all S telling the group how THEY'D do it and distract from the whole presentation. There can be ONLY ONE!
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 43
Views: 3194

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

Then I'd think that there are some things you must realize. 1) No trainer anywhere will guarantee he can cure mouth problems like chomping. 2) PR gives you no basic to fall back on. You need a program to build a reliable dog. 3). A ten week pup is one thing, a three year old another. The chances of ...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:09 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 43
Views: 3194

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

A ten week pup has nothing in common with a three year old with problems. The justification in the ear pinch system over any other on the planet is that retrievers have been trained using this method in field trials since before I've been around the game and that's 50 years. A dog trained without t...
by gonehuntin'
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:03 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 43
Views: 3194

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

The benefits of Force Fetching a dog far outweigh a little ear pinch for a couple days. You will get the retrieve you want and will have a different relationship, for the better, with your dog. Whether they need it or not, I FF all my dogs. FF is not just about the retrieve. I've heard that and som...
by gonehuntin'
Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:45 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Other Hunting, are You Done.......
Replies: 17
Views: 1407

Re: Other Hunting, are You Done.......

You go through phases. At my age, I've through a bunch of them. First, I gave up hunting for retriever field trials. Then I gave up firelf trialing for archery. I then gave up archery for fly fishing. I now spend my time with a fly rod and bird dogs. I've been into dogs for 60 years and never been t...
by gonehuntin'
Sun May 26, 2019 3:43 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Quail in a travel cage overnight?
Replies: 10
Views: 902

Re: Quail in a travel cage overnight?

I crate them and keep them on a roof rack.
by gonehuntin'
Thu May 23, 2019 8:49 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Training method comparison
Replies: 15
Views: 1072

Re: Training method comparison

Don't let it puzzle you Bill, it's not a correct assessment. We train for HUNTING and the hunt tests are the icing on the cake. A competetive hunt test dog makes a superb hunting dog. They are obedient, steady to shot and fall and handle like a dream. All will go to the field and quarter for pheasan...
by gonehuntin'
Thu May 23, 2019 5:33 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Training method comparison
Replies: 15
Views: 1072

Re: Training method comparison

There is a training philosophy that is gaining ground that is a kind of blending of the two. It is basically the American program reinforced in young dogs by clicker and reward. I believe that one dish, EVERYONE will have adopted this program.
by gonehuntin'
Wed May 22, 2019 10:58 am
Forum: Training
Topic: training a pointing breed to sit on command
Replies: 51
Views: 2991

Re: training a pointing breed to sit on command

Each and every thing you teach your dog to compete in a trial will show HUGE benefits in daily hunting.
by gonehuntin'
Wed May 22, 2019 9:32 am
Forum: Training
Topic: training a pointing breed to sit on command
Replies: 51
Views: 2991

Re: training a pointing breed to sit on command

The Internet has its limits – or perhaps my typing skills have their limits. I'm sure others will fill in for my unwillingness to address the subject of why your dog should be steady to wing. Steady to shot is a different story for many. But I'd suggest you read a few basic books on the subject of ...
by gonehuntin'
Wed May 22, 2019 6:57 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 43
Views: 3194

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

Porochi, you have gone radio silent for awhile so not sure where you are at with your dog. The trainer and dog I posted earlier in this thread are now pointing, flushing, shooting and retrieving shot birds to hand. A discussion on clicker training on another board turned up this video and I thought...
by gonehuntin'
Sat May 18, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 43
Views: 3194

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

The best system of FF on the planet is the one Evan Graham teaches. It can be easily modified by using treats. You seem to think FF has to be brutal. It most certainly does not. By combining TEACHING with PRESSURE reinforced by TREATS the FF process is relatively easy to achieve. Now, let me state a...
by gonehuntin'
Sat May 18, 2019 2:54 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Not A Bird Dog But.....
Replies: 5
Views: 622

Re: Not A Bird Dog But.....

Extremely impressive! What breed is this? Can still from the overhead pictures. Was this taken by a drone? Very useful photography, too. Yes Steve, taken with a drone. Had to change batteries once. Here is some more info on the breed they're creating. I'm posting this because like many others on he...
by gonehuntin'
Sat May 18, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Not A Bird Dog But.....
Replies: 5
Views: 622

Not A Bird Dog But.....

If you enjoy great dog work, take a gander at this. Annie is the 2018 Novice champion.

The dog works to whistle and voice but most of what you're seeing Dagley says is experience and natural ability.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 3444868243
by gonehuntin'
Thu May 16, 2019 9:21 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting
Replies: 25
Views: 1838

Re: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting

Work, it doesn't really seem to be a problem but you might invite your neighbor to a training session with pup. I'm betting, since you're not shooting the birds, she might find it fascinating. Another thing you can do to preserve birds is to use a fishing rod. I've posted a video of it on here before.
by gonehuntin'
Thu May 09, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: New to e-collars and bird dogs
Replies: 7
Views: 989

Re: New to e-collars and bird dogs

I was thinking about doing some hiking with the collar on and not do any corrections with it. Just so she doesn’t associate it with staying close to me in heel or whoaing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Never start a dog on an ecollar unless it's on a leash. If it bolts and you can't catch it, ...
by gonehuntin'
Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Passing of Ezzy333 - Al Esger
Replies: 17
Views: 3115

Re: Passing of Ezzy333 - Al Esger

A lot of work for little pay or appreciation. Thank You Ezzy.
by gonehuntin'
Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.
Replies: 19
Views: 1428

Re: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.

Bill T, every winter a slug of us retriever trainers would meet in Arizona. All of us. We're from different parts of the country; east, west, Midwest, south so it was rare for us to compete with each other. The exchange of information each winter was phenomenal. I miss that.
by gonehuntin'
Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.
Replies: 19
Views: 1428

Re: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.

Plenty of other ways but my way had proven very successful for me in field trials. I wouldn't let anyone tell me to modify this or that. i KNEW my methods worked and knew the client had no idea what he was talking about. i was always so busy that there was no time for doubters.
by gonehuntin'
Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.
Replies: 19
Views: 1428

Re: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.

If someone didn't believe in my program or methods, I'd send their dog home and tell them to get another trainer. I didn't have time for anyone to doubt me or my methods. There was one way to do things and that was my way.
by gonehuntin'
Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training an excitable dog?
Replies: 58
Views: 3330

Re: Training an excitable dog?

Dog is three years old with three trainers, trained three different ways and probably kennel shy. He's no youngster at three and the quicker the owner gets a handle on, the easier his training will be. That's why I said to start over; hard to say HOW the dog was trained so train him the way YOU want.
by gonehuntin'
Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:00 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training an excitable dog?
Replies: 58
Views: 3330

Re: Training an excitable dog?

Hey, CJ, whacking a dog with a heeling stick ain't abuse. Beating a dog is abuse and YOU should realize that.
by gonehuntin'
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training an excitable dog?
Replies: 58
Views: 3330

Re: Training an excitable dog?

I haven't read through the replays because many times I don't agree with them anyhow. :evil: I'm going to take a shot and say what you bought was a "kennel shy" dog. That is a dog raised in a kennel without much human contact until old enough to train, then trained. Very hard dogs to work with becau...
by gonehuntin'
Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Won't hunt
Replies: 18
Views: 1372

Re: Won't hunt

Easiest way to get a pup exploring is with an older dog. Just let them romp around, no pressure. Doesn't matter the type, could be a Schnauzer. Working on obedience at a young age can also make them clingy. I'm with the others; he's a baby, give him time.
by gonehuntin'
Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:21 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 43
Views: 3194

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

If the dog has ZERO interest in retrieving, won't chase balls or toys, it will probably never be a decent retriever. You can not make a dog into a good retriever by forcing it if it has no interest in the task.
by gonehuntin'
Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:19 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Proper use of the Check Cord
Replies: 12
Views: 1299

Re: Proper use of the Check Cord

Quit dinking around. Fastest way to teach heel is a pinch collar and heeling stick. Or, just the heeling stick. It gives the dog a visual marker.