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by clink83
Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:48 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Does anybody rotate formulas to avoid protein intolerance?
Replies: 147
Views: 69435

Re: Does anybody rotate formulas to avoid protein intolerance?

]It's not about your ego, its about basic nutritional science. A sample size of one dog is bs, be it mine or yours. Tell me this, do you know your dogs or any others VO2 max? Lactic thresholds? No? Do you know how long your dogs can run before they deplete the glycogen in their liver? Any halfassed ...
by clink83
Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:33 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Does anybody rotate formulas to avoid protein intolerance?
Replies: 147
Views: 69435

Re: Does anybody rotate formulas to avoid protein intolerance?

Someone needs to come up with a definition for better. Field Champion Odyssey's Tequaila Azul has been fed ProPlan Lamb and Rice and only that for 15 years, he has 41 horseback adult wins, All-Age and Shooting Dog, including wins against pointers. In addition, he hunted an average of 60 days a year...
by clink83
Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:08 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: scared on the leash
Replies: 72
Views: 31769

Re: scared on the leash

Clicker/treat-based operant training works on everything from insects all the way up to dolphins and whales, to say that horses and dogs need different types of training is 100% incorrect. There are some things that's been pretty well proven by peer reviewed science, and this is one of them. Any dog...
by clink83
Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:54 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Mile Post 9 Trial Grounds - Idaho
Replies: 39
Views: 27697

Re: Mile Post 9 Trial Grounds - Idaho

This fire is a huge loss. That area was one of few areas with large expanses of intact sagebrush, and was important sagegrouse habitat. The chukar will come back, but all the sagebrush obligate species are done. Under 4-5000ft sagebrush steppe doesn't regenerate anymore.
by clink83
Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:24 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Teaching older dog to kennel
Replies: 11
Views: 4885

Re: Teaching older dog to kennel

Use a clicker to help teach him to kennel.
by clink83
Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:02 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Finishing Stand/Whoa command
Replies: 9
Views: 4712

Re: Finishing Stand/Whoa command

I would put the ecollar away, and reread "training with mo" or some of the articles on http://www.steadywithstyle.com. The West method isn't one that really can be mixed with other plans. You don't want to be walking in front of dogs and hitting them with the collar at this stage of training. At 5 m...
by clink83
Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:45 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Finishing Stand/Whoa command
Replies: 9
Views: 4712

Re: Finishing Stand/Whoa command

Are you working him on birds? If he's not steady to wing yet I wouldn't try to walk around him or anything. Just stop him between birds and walk in front of him and act like you're flushing birds. Once he's steady to wing, introduce "whoa" as a cue to stand, then you can test him more. Take him upwi...
by clink83
Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:46 am
Forum: Training
Topic: 5 month old Vizsla training
Replies: 8
Views: 5164

Re: To train or not to train?

I personally would take a 6 month old pup hunting(as long as it knows basic field commands) and wait till it was a year old to send it to a trainer. If you get 10 years of enjoyment out of your dog 6 months isn't long to wait.
by clink83
Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:18 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Brittany - Size Question
Replies: 30
Views: 14030

Re: Brittany - Size Question

You don't get a dog 18lbs oversize when they are only supposed to be 30-40lbs by accident. A couple piunds maby, but not 18. That's oversize by 50%!

My male Britt was fairly skinny, about 34 lbs till about 1.5-2 then he filled out to about 38-40. 10 months is pretty young still.
by clink83
Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:32 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Plague
Replies: 4
Views: 1674

Re: Plague

Its actually more common than you would think. Its pretty well known to biologists that rodens can be reservoirs for plauge. It makes for good news, but the chances of you and your pet getting is pretty remote.
by clink83
Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:22 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: When To Start Breaking
Replies: 15
Views: 7050

Re:

My pup is steady to flush at 7.5 months. Right now the trainer has us working on steady to shot. I am completely new to all of this and had no idea where the dog should be at this point in training. The trainer had to explain all of this to me. He suggested i go to junior hunter with her. I have no...
by clink83
Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:36 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: 2 dog E-collar systems
Replies: 24
Views: 11912

Re: 2 dog E-collar systems

You can use the ecollar to correct a dog that knows a known command and gas been properly collar conditioned. If the dog does not understand why he is being corrected it will cause problems though. That said, for basic stuff around the house why use correction based training? You can teach dogs not ...
by clink83
Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:45 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Anyone ever experienced this on a hunt? (GSP kills Coyote)
Replies: 46
Views: 19809

Re: Anyone ever experienced this on a hunt? (GSP kills Coyote)

I don't know about you, but when I hunt I dispatch what I kill fast to minimize its suffering. I don't stand around videotaping it. Just more proof that there is a difference between hunters and killers.
by clink83
Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:32 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: First Post(!): Puppy Problems
Replies: 17
Views: 7882

Re: First Post(!): Puppy Problems

Choke chains damage your dogs trachea. Its not an opinion, its proven. I'm sure someone else will chime in and say I'm wrong though. Use something else to train your dog. A prong collar is much safer.
by clink83
Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:15 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Introduce 3 month Old GSP to Water?
Replies: 9
Views: 4156

Re: Introduce 3 month Old GSP to Water?

People make water intros too hard. Just take your dog swimming with you, and slowly move from shallow water to deeper water he has to swim with. Make it fun for both of you, and he will love water later in life.
by clink83
Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:01 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

This is like debating with a lazy teenager that thinks he knows everything. From the Redpaw web site: WINNING RESULTS Since those humble beginnings, Redpaw has continued to improve and grow. Today, thousands of dogs throughout North America eat Redpaw's dog foods. In the mushing community, Redpaw i...
by clink83
Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:01 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

They are not talking laboratory. They are talking a complete lack of understanding of nutrition and why every feed is made up of several ingredients since there is not one ingredient that can fulfill the needs of an animal. That is why EVERY feed has multiple ingredients that supplement each other ...
by clink83
Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:32 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10 ... 02.63.1247

A quick glance at google scholar shows there is very little to no published research on CGM as a dog food. Hmm...
A quick perusal through other research papers on other animals show it can cause lyseine deficency in animals fed it.
by clink83
Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:38 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

This is my last post. First performance is very real, it is primarily what is judged in a field trial. Without the best nutrition and conditioning dogs cannot display the other traits. All the top pros are campaigning dogs with very similar genetics, they all are close in ability as trainers and ha...
by clink83
Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:19 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Post dogs on Point!!!!
Replies: 738
Views: 738066

Re: Post dogs on Point!!!!

My EP at tonight's training session.
by clink83
Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:26 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

Circular logic for the win. Purina heavily sponsors pro trainers and gives away their food as prizes, who use their food, then go on to win fin. Must be the food, and not good genetics combined with solid training. This is why advertising is so effective. Why is this so hard to understand? Or are y...
by clink83
Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:12 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

Clink, I just happened to be working with the research farm back at the time Corm Gluten became available as a by-product of the Ethanol industry and we run many tests on it trying to find where it fit into the animal feeding protocol. The thing we found is one of the most complete vegetable source...
by clink83
Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:32 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

Circular logic for the win. Purina heavily sponsors pro trainers and gives away their food as prizes, who use their food, then go on to win fin. Must be the food, and not good genetics combined with solid training. I This is why advertising is so effective. Field trials aren't timed foot races, and ...
by clink83
Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:41 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What's everyone's idealistic dog?
Replies: 38
Views: 14603

Re: What's everyone's idealistic dog?

Most important to me is the dog is my friend, and enjoys spending time with me. I could care less if a dog has perfect manners on birds if its only interest is finding the next bird. That's why I love hunting my britt more than my pointer.
by clink83
Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:13 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

You don't test a food by setting up a list of ingredients and comparing that list to the products.. You get a huge number of different dogs, catagorize the dogs and feed them different foods. Then you check the dogs for health, performance, weight loss or gain. Compare breed to breed, sex to sex, u...
by clink83
Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:41 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

I'm a biologist, so I know there is a huge difference between research and the application of research. Purinas business model requires high volumes of sales, which nessitates lower quality ingredients. Brewers rice is still waste rice, and corn and wheat are used because they are dirt cheap, no mat...
by clink83
Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:18 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

Scientifically organic food is much worse for the environment with no real increase in nutrients and minimal health benefits. Most people would rather listen to marketing than read research though.
by clink83
Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:43 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog Food Study
Replies: 80
Views: 25637

Re: Dog Food Study

This is silly. You wouldn't feed a human animal byproducts, you feed them high quality protein. Why would you think feeding your dog animal byproducts is somehow better, or that brewers rice is something you want to feed to your dog? Purina is in the business of making a profit selling mass produced...
by clink83
Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:57 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Chukar dogs
Replies: 96
Views: 69052

Re: Chukar dogs

IMO Chukar hunting can be easy or hard on a dogs feet and legs, depending on where you hunt. I rarely have pad problems with my britt, but his hocks and the webbing betwern his toes get cut up hunting in certain areas. Not a lot can be done about that breeding wise, but Lewis boots sure do help. Hea...
by clink83
Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:23 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How Much Would you Pay for a Pup?
Replies: 100
Views: 50425

Re: How Much Would you Pay for a Pup?

Ezzy, To be fair, this was a pretty passive aggressive thing to say: " It always makes me smile when they tell me field trial dogs are the same as the local breeders but those dastardly local bred pups can't hold a candle to their field trial dogs. Not sure that we can have it both ways. I do agree...
by clink83
Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:33 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Steadiness Training Question
Replies: 28
Views: 11598

Re: Steadiness Training Question

If your dog bit you every time you missed a bird would you want to hunt? You should correct a dog, not punish it. Combining punishment, birds, and "whoa" is a good way to develop problems later.
by clink83
Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:26 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: atvs and trials
Replies: 34
Views: 11240

Re: atvs and trials

What a "bleep" thread. This is exactly why the ADA exists, for good or bad. I've read the thread on that ATV guy, and he is a "bleep". That said: If you had a veteran that came back from Iraq or Afghanistan with no legs would you really have the guts to tell him that he couldn't participate because ...
by clink83
Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:03 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: pup pointing close
Replies: 11
Views: 3724

Re: pup pointing close

Honestly I think you're just going to cause more problems doing drills with launchers. You taught the dog his job is to point birds and let you flush him, the rest is going to be between the dog and bird. I've seen my dog point wild chuker at 40 yards and in the same week sight point two pen raised ...
by clink83
Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:15 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Bird habitat and "green energy"
Replies: 4
Views: 1909

Re: Bird habitat and "green energy"

I don't know anyone with a B.S, M.S, or Phd who would consider ethanol a "green energy" source.
by clink83
Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:42 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Tri color GSP pups
Replies: 70
Views: 31806

Re: Tri color GSP pups

Rare allelle combinations may be an indication of outcrossing, but it could just be a rare remnant of the foundation stock used to create the breed. Everyone always fly's the "outcross " flags on threads like these, but its not always the case.
by clink83
Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:40 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Brittanies in America
Replies: 26
Views: 10261

Re: Brittanies in America

A lot of Britts bred for FT have shorter coats, finer bone structure and more white. My dog is from FT lines but my mom has a pup from nontitled breeding, and there is a big difference in conformation. If you run them side by side my dog is faster and has a smoother gait than the other dog. Its more...
by clink83
Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:15 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: GPS collars working in very heavy tree cover
Replies: 11
Views: 5789

Re: GPS collars working in very heavy tree cover

I use a sportdog tek GPS collar in the forest here in Idaho and it works well enough to find a dog on point or find a lost dog. A beeper may work better at finding a dog in thick stuff, but it won't keep my dog from spending the night with wolves.
by clink83
Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:36 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: pup pointing close
Replies: 11
Views: 3724

Re: pup pointing close

What kind of birds? Are you using a training plan?
If you're hunting wild birds I wouldn't worry about it. If he holds his birds shoot them, and if he doesn't don't shoot them.
by clink83
Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:36 pm
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: Pistol for bears?
Replies: 53
Views: 47059

Re: Pistol for bears?

Firearms have a 40% failure rate in stopping bear attacks, bear spray 10%. I'm going with the odds on this one.
by clink83
Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:24 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: SHOOTING UNPOINTED BIRDS
Replies: 89
Views: 31328

Re: SHOOTING UNPOINTED BIRDS

From Dave Walker:" When you're teaching your dog to be steady to wing, never shoot over him." The Bird Dog Training Manual. Under "steady To Wing. Dave's methods are ever changing. One thing he emphasizes is if the dog is souring on you shoot him a bird. No matter what you're teaching them. That's ...
by clink83
Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:32 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Steady to wsf without whoa
Replies: 22
Views: 8746

Re: Steady to wsf without whoa

You could use Dave Walkers version of the West method. Teach him to standup/stand still nonverbally, and if he sits while doing it you put your foot under him and bump his hocks when he sits while pushing down on his rear end. You also don't have to use whoa in that training method.
by clink83
Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:35 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Trial Dogs
Replies: 60
Views: 16231

Re: Trial Dogs

The OP's question was about greater difficulty in training a field trial dog, when I mentioned independence, I had previously (in the same post) spoke of dogs needed to be over the hill broke, being gone for 8 - 12 minutes at a time! Look, few hunting dog trainers and no retriever trainers I know w...
by clink83
Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:31 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Puppy food question
Replies: 22
Views: 7022

Re: Puppy food question

Your dog could have Guardia. I don't know if that requires a specialized teat or not. My pup somehow got it right after I brought him home from the breeder and I thought it was due to food issues for a while.

Some dogs just don't like some foods too.
by clink83
Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:18 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Is Pointing Genetic?
Replies: 77
Views: 26834

Re: Is Pointing Genetic?

I fintd the cutting horse and herding dogs the closest to a pointing dog. So thanks for the help. Still keep wondering why Dr. Neff has not published his results.! Do you have the resources to take the genome of dogs, sequence it, identify all the coding vs non coding regions, figure out all the al...
by clink83
Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:42 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Steel loads for grouse and woodcock
Replies: 38
Views: 16118

Re: Steel loads for grouse and woodcock

The US Fish and Wildlife has nothing to do with the non-toxic shot requirement? Are you rewriting history? They rigged some phoney studies, held some hearings where they did not listen to hunter input, and published the new rules, resulting in a lot of wounded birds. I don't know why I bother posti...
by clink83
Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:55 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: What's best for a pups first year training or hunting?
Replies: 36
Views: 11495

Re: What's best for a pups first year training or hunting?

The genome is sequenced for many animals true, but identifying genes and mapping their function is a whole other process, and will take a long time to sort out. The other problem is that genes can code for several different things, depending on which signaling pathways are activated during transcrip...
by clink83
Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:47 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: What's best for a pups first year training or hunting?
Replies: 36
Views: 11495

Re: What's best for a pups first year training or hunting?

I carry my transmitter on my left side hanging upside down from a belt loop, I can get to it quickly, but these days I don't worry much about shooting, I let my son and his buddies do most of it, and if it flies, it dies with those guys, they don't much care about points or training. What I am sayi...
by clink83
Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:18 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Force fetching a Brittany
Replies: 22
Views: 8654

Re: Force fetching a Brittany

Clink, It seems your own judgement is limited either by geography experience or both. I would bet that Dave Walker would alter his "hard fast" rule should he find a situation he deemed it warranted. As a secondary consideration do you know who Paul Doiron is and his credentials and reputation in th...
by clink83
Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:53 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Force fetching a Brittany
Replies: 22
Views: 8654

Re: Force fetching a Brittany

FF a 14 month old Brittany is not the best idea. At that age it should be working on being broke, not being put on the table. Give your dog at least one season of solid hunting before you even think of it. A Brittany is not a lab, and I would not take advice from retriever people. Both of my Britta...