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Uplandish

Nothing wrong with blondes especially if you know they are faithful. Thats a metaphor, get another CZ because you know they work for at least 5000 rounds... FWIW at 5K rounds a CZ is just barely getting broke in.

Or get a Benelli Ultra light.

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hettmoe wrote:There is a gun out there that fits you, even though it may not be a Red Label. Do yourself a favor and do not settle for a gun that does not fit and feel right.

Any gun can be made to fit you, usually pretty darn easy and inexpensively.

Uplandish

Personally swatting a bird off the ground doesn't sound that safe too me Sounds safer to me than in the air. Just no challenge in it. I believe in fair chase and want to give the bird the opportunity to escape by wing so when my shot finally connects I feel proud of what was accomplished. Ground po...

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Well looks like I will be heading back up to the high line again, the lewiston area didn't sound all that its cracked up to be. This cold snap that came on should put the snakes down for a while and keep my dogs on the ground a little longer. I can't wait.

Thanks to all that responded.

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As many legendary grouse hunters have mentioned " more grouse have been killed with boot leather than anything else" Off the ground, on a branch, in the air, by yourself, with a pointer, with a setter, with a flusher. If its legal and SAFE the choice is yours and don't lose any sleep worrying about ...

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I'd suggest taking a look at the far northeast corner of the state around Plentywood.... They really cater to bird hunters there. For some scenic hunting, you might want to check out the Rocky Mountain Front near Choteau...gorgeous country... Usually enough Sharptails and Huns to chase around and i...

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That would not be Lewistown. so its pretty packed around lewiston? I was worried about that, I talked to some biologists today that said it didn't get above average pressure but just looking at the map you can see its easy access. I will be leaving the same time myself from Houston. Where are you c...

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I am getting ready to head to Montana again in couple weeks, I normally hit the north central part of the state and do alright for sharptails and huns, this year I was thinking of a different area, maybe near Lewiston. I haven't made my mind up yet so if any had any input about good areas to try or ...

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Its not going to be a do all gun if you ever have to shoot steel, unless you want to drop the $ on other non toxics.

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I don't have an alpha but I do have an astro and I made a leather holster very similar to what wing works sells ( but with a couple added fail safes ) and I really like the style. I don't use a bell or a beeper with my dogs so I probably look at the screen a little more than most people do, but its ...

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After watching a dog get impaled on a beaver stick I tend to think a gingerly entrance into the water is of the most value and most desirable. I cringe when I see a dog blast into the water, there is no telling what lays under the surface. I also tend to agree with the boredom theory. One good retri...

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Filson has degrees of fabric and I ordered my strap vest w/o the fabric treatment....works just dandy. But, I still get hot on a 70 degree day....naturally. OP, Filson products are not perfect and are dear in price but sift the advice received well. As to Filson cloth gun wear.... :D ....wow. But I...

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Most anything made by filson lately is way overpriced and not practical for many hunting situations. They (and I am guessing many of their customers) mainly care about looks over functionality. If they would get rid of that "bleep" oil cloth and start making some of their vests with a dry finish ( t...

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Kninebirddog, roger that.
Thanks sharon.

I should probably clarify my original post... he is skittish around the bird laucher, but goes crazy for the dummy launcher which uses 22 blanks.

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A friend has a 9 month old setter pup that was noise sensitive, he has made a lot of progress but I wanted to get some opinions to make sure the dog is where we think it needs to be. History as I know it. Intro to gunfire with clipped wing pigeon several times went perfect, the dog could care less a...

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Oops didn't see this till just now.
Thanks Gonehuntin'

we are currently working on FF per everyones suggestions. I will post an update further down the road.

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Does sound rather odd on that Uplandish, hard to say. Am in the FF' camp as with others on here as an Rx, however if the dog was already properly FF'd and collar trained, you might could get a perfectly timed correction in to HERE on a return the millisecond the dog starts to show signs of inhaling...

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DING DING DING DING DING!... :!: Lots of our retrieving critters have a burning desire to swallow or taste a nice fresh meaty morsel down, and will if you give the dog enough free time. 'Ya have to give the dog some consistent , specific "instructions" on what it's supposed to do with a juicy warm ...

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I never give any part of the bird to a dog to eat, never have, never will. I think it total insanity. There are trainers that do though and with no ill effect. No one is idiot enough to give them the whole bird though, just the head. The dog couldn't have been accustomed to eating whole birds; the ...

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You really have a tough one here. There is no honest trainer out there that will guarantee to you that they can cure a bird eater. A lot of dogs have been sent to the bone yard because they committed the second greatest sin a bird dog can commit: eating the bird he's been bred to pursue. The greate...

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Part of FF is "hold", trained properly there is no movement of the jaws upto the drop command. We can only give advice, you can take it or argue, up to you. Seems to me he has yet to eat a bird, he just almost does. FF will take the almost away. Hey there Im not arguing with anyone pal, nor do I wi...

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Im pretty sure lack of food isn't the culprit. I have nagging suspicion that the trainers that "worked" with him before i got him, gave this dog a piece of bird (im betting a pen raised chukar) as a reward instead of letting him retrieve. as far as force fetch goes how is that going to stop him from...

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Force fetch him before it becomes a real problem. There is a reason that nearly all field trial dogs that are requried to retrieve are FF,ed, it removes all options. However mouthing a bird is a long way from eating it, some of those that seemed to be chewing up a bird retrieved it whole. Those tha...

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I picked up some pen raised chukars to work my rescue setter with over the weekend so we both could blow off some steam. After I shot the birds he went in to retrieve and came back as pretty as you please but I'll be "bleep" if he wasn't trying to eat them on the way back. It didn't look like he was...

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i'm an average shot at best, my brother shoots 1000's of rounds at the trap range every year and when we go dove hunting he takes his super expensive beretta 28 gauge and i take my $400 stoeger 12 gauge shooting the same size shot. i usually do well while he misses a lot. More bb's flung out the ba...

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How bout this we go get the guns out and step it off put some paper out there and take the shot before we go calling people liars and talking smack! I was there along with 5 others and we all were in shock and aww! No reason to be a jackwagon about it! Umm were you there? Umm NO! Ummm.....97 steps(...

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Kilt a pheasant graveyard dead at 97 steps?.....kid likely eats RAW. 8) maybe he has short legs? :wink: I dropped a good size gadwall with my 28 gauge using hevi shot a couple seasons ago that was a looong way out. It wasn't 97 of my long steps, but it was well past what I thought a 28 was capable ...

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sometimes if they have weak retrieves you can bring in an older dog that is a good retriever and have him tied up and waiting right near by. if the pup drops the dummy half way or ignores it you can send the older dog out to snag it, this will make the pup think twice about letting go next time. jus...

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Iff'n a fellar is going to flash around shooting irons like that he better supply the story that goes with each one of them

My question is how do you decide which one to take to the field with you? do you have a custody schedule set up so none of them feel left out?

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if you only check on them once a week or so ( thats what I do) feed them some sort of pellet food or corn, otherwise they will pick out all the best bits and throw the rest on the loft floor where it will get covered in crap or get moldy. when they run out of the choice stuff the will pick the rest ...

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Try them all before you buy. What works best for me, might not be good for you. That being said, all my grouse guns have 30" barrels, that extra measly 4" of barrel isn't going to hang you up any worse than 26" barrels. That exttra 4" of barrel will add a little bit of weight and help you out in the...

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Uplandish, Just keep in the forefront of your mind: it's all for fun. :D Whenever someone shakes their head or gives me guff about shooting a 410 (or a 20, 28, or old side by side), I tell them I do it because I enjoy it. It is truly the ONLY reason I have dogs and hunt. Frankly, sometimes I dont e...

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I think the thing to keep in mind other than available ammo Is that the sub gages will fire the same size of shot just as fast. Difference is the amount of shot in the load. A piece of #6 shot out of a 410 and a 12 ga travels pretty much just as fast and does the same damage. The difference in the ...

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I hate my DC50. It loses signal at close range, it loses signal at long range, and it seems noticeably slower to detect a point than my Dc40.
which reminds me now that the season is over I should send it back.

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I veer from my gentle positive methods here. If the dog is over 6 months and not a rescue or having some unsual emotional mental issue, I just throw on a bark collar for obnoxious crate and kennel dogs. Can not tolerate this behavior. Often times they get themselves into a cycle of stress and they ...

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So upland are you saying not to use anything but wild for training? No chukars or pigeons ? Wild pheasant are not in the budget this year. In training situations use what you have. But during hunting season (when you don't know where the bird is planted) stay away from the pheasant release sites un...

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Is Bud Folk is another guy to look up.

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I do have the dog on a cc but I don't hold it. I get the dog in cross wind and soon as it gives any indication it has scent or is where I think it should have scent, I pop the bird. Sounds like you were stopping the dog with the cc. That'll work but it is the long way. With remote traps you have th...

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Go with the 20ga for this reason. Imagine yourself on the hunt of a lifetime way to heck in BFE. The shooting is so good there that after four days you run out of ammo. A country store (the only one in 50+ miles) has a few boxes of shells. Which will the store likely not have on their shelves? Your...

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Get an old moving crate for large furniture, slap roof on it, a door, and reinforce the floor so you can walk in. Add some perches and bobs and you are all set.

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I wouldn't run him on stocked pheasants until he has grouse figured out. Let the grouse teach him every thing he needs to know about handling birds and he can fill in the gaps with stockers later. Stocked pheasants are hit and miss with their behavior, you get some roosters that will act like wild b...

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The stigma attached to pen raised birds comes in some part from ignorance, but mostly from bad birds. If a preserve doesn't offer good quality birds that are not only healthy but properly conditioned it is a giant disservice to their customers and their customer's dogs. How many times have we heard ...

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