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by Labs4Me
Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:36 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: New puppy and kids
Replies: 14
Views: 6489

Re: New puppy and kids

^ +1 If it were me, the pup would go back post haste. Whether it is genetics or socialization, no 4 month old puppy should be growling at children unless severely provoked. IMO If you decide to keep the puppy I suggest you not force interaction. The children should not interact at all without your c...
by Labs4Me
Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:09 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Purina pro plan puppy food
Replies: 10
Views: 4875

Re: Purina pro plan puppy food

IMO - If you absolutely must switch you should try sticking with a formula that closely matches the GA and ingredient list of the food the puppy was weaned onto. It looks like both the PPP puppy and the sport are fairly close to the Pride puppy.
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:14 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What funny little hunting quirks do your dogs have?
Replies: 7
Views: 2305

Re: What funny little hunting quirks do your dogs have?

Mine brings me bunnies. Damp and scared stiff, but still alive. :roll:
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:47 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dan and Becky Voss's gordon setters..
Replies: 3
Views: 1718

Re: Dan and Becky Voss's gordon setters..

Very very nice :D I especially like the second one!
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:45 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog food article
Replies: 82
Views: 33728

Re: Dog food article

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/10/31/1112128108.abstract And with that... I''m out. You can lead a horse to water.... blah blah blah 8) No. Too little information and mice are not dogs. You are absolutely clueless where research is concerned. :roll: Anything which doesn't confirm your bias ...
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:46 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog food article
Replies: 82
Views: 33728

Re: Dog food article

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/ ... 8.abstract


And with that... I''m out. You can lead a horse to water.... blah blah blah 8)
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:10 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog food article
Replies: 82
Views: 33728

Re: Dog food article

I posted that link previously in the appropriate forum because I thought it would be helpful. There are so many misconceptions out there about food. 2 have cropped up in this thread alone. One misconception being that because there is water content in meat that once it is cooked it will no longer be...
by Labs4Me
Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:00 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

Real hunters do not have to feed their dogs kibble with corn in it, but most choose to. Instead of letting your feelings drive you toward letting a dentist tell you what to feed, you might consider listening to and learning from real hunters. Why do experts feed what they feed? Because it works. If ...
by Labs4Me
Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:40 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cold weather hunting questions
Replies: 24
Views: 8880

Re: Cold weather hunting questions

I'd never run a heater where I wasn't able to supervise it.

I suppose it would be fiddly, but perhaps you could bring both a flat cap and a squirt/spigot cap for the water bottles and swap to the flat cap when the bottle is not in use?
by Labs4Me
Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:59 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

I feed Blue Buffalo wilderness, it's animal protein content is higher than Dr. Tims, though Dr Tims seems to be a lot better then Purina Pro Plan. Blue Buffalos rating here is a 5 http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/blue-buffalo-dog-food-wilderness-dry/ Dr Tims rating is also a 5 star ht...
by Labs4Me
Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:53 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

Yeah but are their Britts "50 lbs of rock hard muscle" ? :lol: I just slipped my 2 some leftover corn muffins from dinner. They ate them with gusto. Obviously they are unaware I am trying to kill them with CORN! I could care less who feeds corn, I said those dogs eat both kibble and assorted foods ...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:14 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

Good reading but has little info that every experienced dog owner does not know. I don't know about that. I've owned dogs for 20+ years but never a dog like my current girl. (always had herding breeds before) Keeping weight on her has been difficult. My usual sources for information on feeding (obe...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:29 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

I feed Blue Buffalo wilderness, it's animal protein content is higher than Dr. Tims, though Dr Tims seems to be a lot better then Purina Pro Plan. Blue Buffalos rating here is a 5 Dr Tims rating is also a 5 star Top 5 ingredients of Dr Tims are, Chicken meal, brown rice flour, chicken fat, oat flou...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:13 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

Yeah but are their Britts "50 lbs of rock hard muscle" ? :lol:

I just slipped my 2 some leftover corn muffins from dinner. They ate them with gusto. Obviously they are unaware I am trying to kill them with CORN!
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:01 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

I can also tell you there are a lot of Trial,hunt test & people that compete at different venues on this site & most if not all feed kibble & I think by now you could see that by the response of members here that are getting fed up with all this BS. Just check this page out the only threads here th...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:20 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

Oh my god it's CORN!!!

Seriously, a pretty good read here.

http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/20 ... d-dog.html
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:13 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

You think? Really?Anyway, most sled dogs are fed kibble year round and supplemented during races. As to the rest, since I never said those things, you're going to have to argue with yourself. I think you need to take a trip up to Alaska and see what those dogs are really eating, and stop reading so...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:07 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

All duck and goose is for human consumption :lol: All in it's a little too expensive to feed to my dogs :lol:
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:56 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

I feed Blue Buffalo wilderness, it's animal protein content is higher than Dr. Tims, though Dr Tims seems to be a lot better then Purina Pro Plan. Blue Buffalos rating here is a 5 http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/blue-buffalo-dog-food-wilderness-dry/ Dr Tims rating is also a 5 star ht...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:37 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

Take your dog out and prove your point should be real easy out performing all those corn Fed dogs.Most everyone your arguing with have proven dogs do you? Show us your more then just a internet know it all. It's never going to happen. His little bench bred bitch is pretty, though, romping through t...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:34 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

Wow. Just.... wow :|

What % of the total protein is meat/animal based, genius?
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:32 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

Take your dog out and prove your point should be real easy out performing all those corn Fed dogs.Most everyone your arguing with have proven dogs do you? Show us your more then just a internet know it all. It's never going to happen. His little bench bred bitch is pretty, though, romping through t...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:22 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

Please prove that dogs in the Iditarod are not fed kibble which contains corn or corn gluten meal. Go on now. You are so very certain of your "facts" so I am sure you will have no trouble proving them.

I'll grab the popcorn while I wait.........
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:14 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

I did cite the source, it's the Harvard school of public health, please argue with them-----> http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/protein-full-story/ Corn, wheat, and rice protein chains, and the byproducts of them are always shorter than animal based protein chains, this may mean nothing i...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:40 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food
Replies: 57
Views: 33078

Re: Wild Alaskan salmon, the 1000 mile dog race food

I guess all those Red Paw and Inukshuk fed winning teams should just go home :roll:
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:10 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

And where did you get your stats on longevity of a given species of dog? Breed not species. Try the June 2006 issue of Research in Veterinary Science and look for a study co-authored by Keith Murphy, Kimberly A. Greer and Sarah Canterberry. 718 dogs from 77 breeds. (average lifespan decreases with ...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:25 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

Why? That's not an average lifespan regardless of food. Show me a dog who lived into it's mid twenties eating raw and working hard everyday. If it even happens I would say it has more to do with genetics and lifestyle than raw vs. kibble. Better arguments will make for a much better discussion wher...
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:02 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

I didn't realize life was this complicated.:-) In reality it is about a 50/50 mix, with a teaspoon of oatmeal and some olive oil and broth, so I figure the first two main ingredients to be 48%, could be 49%....Actually it is simple, though more complicated than feeding corn meal in a dog food bag. ...
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:54 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Why Corn is So Dangerous
Replies: 44
Views: 14098

Re: Why Corn is So Dangerous

I have only ask for one name, and that is the name of the breeder, who feeds their puppies Purina Pro Plan. If you did the math, and measured out what a litter of puppies would actually eat, it might cost between 50 and 100 dollars more to feed a top quality food, as the cheap Purina Pro Plan is no...
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:43 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Why Corn is So Dangerous
Replies: 44
Views: 14098

Re: Why Corn is So Dangerous

I have only ask for one name, and that is the name of the breeder, who feeds their puppies Purina Pro Plan. If you did the math, and measured out what a litter of puppies would actually eat, it might cost between 50 and 100 dollars more to feed a top quality food, as the cheap Purina Pro Plan is no...
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:27 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

My lab's breeder?

http://www.candlewoodkennels.net/

and what she feeds is not a secret :lol:

http://www.candlewoodkennels.net/someth ... _mary.html


Where did your dog come from and what did its breeder feed?
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:02 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

I choose to believe in science and nature Still waiting to see any of the so called "science" you believe in. As for nature, I shot a coyote yesterday morning eating the apples under my tree. I usually get one or two every year with that "bait". Good thing I shoot them because they are seriously me...
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:58 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

I've always fed kibble. Does that mean I set myself straight? :lol: 2 weeks ago I hadn't seen proof that giving rmbs can be dangerous. Now I have. Talked about it with the member of my club this happened to. Decided risk outweighed benefit because there are other ways to get the same results. I'll j...
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:00 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

Any dog consuming bones or corncobs or whatever is playing a bit of Russian roulette with megaesophagus. That is not a good thing to experience. Whether the swallow was by accident or by a dog being a dog is one thing.....owner induced or applauded, another. I was very recently shown a series of ph...
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:58 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat
Replies: 156
Views: 63466

Re: Is this good? 48% dog food and 48% meat

Purina posts their ingredients on-line. One simply needs to be capable of clicking on tabs to see them. I really cannot fathom how that is so difficult for some people.

http://www.proplan.com/
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:27 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: What do you think of these ingredience
Replies: 22
Views: 8573

Re: What do you think of these ingredience

That is made by the same company that makes Inukshuk, in fact the food is virtually identical to Inukshuk's 30/25. In every way but the price: http://www.dogfooddirect.com/store/p/1758-Realtree-High-Performance-Dog-Food-33lb.aspx :lol: Are you the gentleman I spoke with on the phone? I cant figure ...
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:20 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: What do you think of these ingredience
Replies: 22
Views: 8573

Re: What do you think of these ingredience

That is made by the same company that makes Inukshuk, in fact the food is virtually identical to Inukshuk's 30/25.
In every way but the price:
http://www.dogfooddirect.com/store/p/17 ... -33lb.aspx

:lol:
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:28 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: need advice
Replies: 35
Views: 17402

Re: need advice

Thyroid hormone is essential to healthy skin and a lot of other bodily functions including the immune system, so skin problems that may look like allergies can involve hypothyroidism.

English Setters have one of the highest incidences of hypothyroidism due to autoimmune thyroiditis.
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:00 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: need advice
Replies: 35
Views: 17402

Re: need advice

I suggest you get the thyroid checked. Ask your vet to run a full panel through MSU.
by Labs4Me
Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:05 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines
Replies: 85
Views: 22319

Re: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines

Soil depletion and the reality of growing seasons and zones make synthetic supplementation not only beneficial but necessary. There seems to be a nostalgic blind spot on display here. The reality is people died in the "good old days" from malnutrition. And food poisoning.
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:19 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines
Replies: 85
Views: 22319

Re: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines

https://www.avma.org/News/Journals/Collections/Documents/javma_220_9_1315.pdf They ate Purina foods. Retrospective analysis of human food consumption is not going to cut it. Warm fuzzies and what we'd "like to think" are not sound science. The majority of human nutritional deficiencies are corrected...
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:47 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: When is the end?
Replies: 20
Views: 7887

Re: When is the end?

I believe in quality of life over quantity of years. But determining that is up to individual owners as is how much $ to spend. I waited too long with my last guy because I hard a hard time letting go. Probably spent way more, and also significantly less, than other people would have. I prefer the c...
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:42 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines
Replies: 85
Views: 22319

Re: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines

If diet had anything to do with it then all of your dogs that are fed alike would live the same amount of time and we know there is no correlation even close to that I'm still waiting for this fact to actually be addressed. The only paired litter mate study I know of that looked at longevity is the...
by Labs4Me
Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:07 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Grain Free? -- Maybe Not
Replies: 5
Views: 2646

Re: Grain Free? -- Maybe Not

I posted about this in the Raw thread: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v495/n7441/full/nature11837.html But the knowledge that domestic dogs have an increased ability over wolves to digest carbohydrates isn't new to this study. Just the identification of candidate mutations which show signals o...
by Labs4Me
Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:38 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Fat Puppies?
Replies: 23
Views: 8801

Re: Fat Puppies?

dog dr wrote:In human babies extra fat is supposed to be good for brain development, or so ive been told. cant say whether its the same for dogs or not, but it makes sense to me. Fat is key component of the nervous system.

Is that body fat or fat in the diet?
by Labs4Me
Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:54 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Fat Puppies?
Replies: 23
Views: 8801

Re: Fat Puppies?

IMO - No. You should still be able to feel a little rib on a puppy, although I am okay with a bit more "reserves" on a puppy than on an adult. But fat? No. Stressing developing joints with excess weight is, imo, a bad idea. In my breed fat seems to be the new normal :roll: But ligament damage is tre...
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:54 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines
Replies: 85
Views: 22319

Re: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines

One RMB every week or two is not "lots." And I do it because it cleans teeth better than brushing. Other than that, no additives. No lack of faith in my food source here. I wonder why that upsets you so much? :lol: It doesn't bother me at all. I never hear of raw feeders brushing their dogs teeth o...
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:51 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines
Replies: 85
Views: 22319

Re: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines

http://www.dogster.com/forums/Raw_Food_Diet/thread/692340 So yeah, some raw feeders do have to continue brushing. They also have to deal with fractured teeth and worn down teeth. I also give the dogs bully sticks for the same reason. RMBs happen to be cheaper. There is no perfect solution for all do...
by Labs4Me
Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:23 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines
Replies: 85
Views: 22319

Re: AAFCO Changing Nutritional Guidelines

One RMB every week or two is not "lots." And I do it because it cleans teeth better than brushing. Other than that, no additives. No lack of faith in my food source here. I wonder why that upsets you so much? :lol: