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- Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:44 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
The whole post basically!! We want new entrants and could care less if they have young dogs interfering with our dogs. I have personally invited numerous people to our trial, and I am loaning my horse for a few braces for new guys to see the sport. You paint everything like its this dog eat dog wor...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:37 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Recommended Training Books
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2499
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:18 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
Here is where the problem may be....the field trial community is desperate for new entries and youth, yet they don't want your untrained dog (especially) interfering with their dog and cost them a placement. They are in a quandary. They want you there, want your money, don't want to discourage you ...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:15 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
Dude almost every post you make is slamming FT dogs or FT. So not really that outlandish of a post IMO.[/quote] Dude, you must have a reading comprehension problem. I'd bet 90% of every bird dog I ever owned have direct parents /grandparents from multi. Ch. FT and 100% of my retrievers had Ch or HRC...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:40 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
Can anybody show up at a field trial & enter there dog ? or is it pretty formal and lot of rules & regulations that must be known before entering ? I was just curious knowing nothing about it . I remember when I got my first shorthair my breeder asked me what I intended on doing with him and was fi...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:07 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
This is getting CRAZIER by the moment!!A dog runs into a dog on point, and the force of which almost causes a dog to: "darned near gets killed" ? It being so traumatic that the dog spent the rest of its life hunting alone because: "can no longer hunt in a brace "?This place is a ZOO for unbridled W...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:55 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:Well you have another PM.& thanks for correcting my spelling do you have an app so I can spell check everything I type?
No, but a dictionary will work too.
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:50 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
Grouse think about this if you were only having problems here with one person it might be the other persons fault but when it seems you have a problem with almost every one here you might want to look in the mirrow. :wink: Number one it's mirror. Number two, you are the thread lock king. Number thr...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:48 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
You are wrong, I am not helping him. I am merely correcting a posters bad information (yours) so that folks who made need help don't get the wrong idea. I am more than used to exceptionally amateurish and limited experience posters getting louder and resorting to name calling et al in hopes of buil...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:30 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
These DUMMIES ? :roll: It's hard for me to take you too seriously. It seems like you get most threads locked, which I assume is right around the corner. I left the term DUMMIES open, vague and not not a personal attack on an individual. However, if the shoe fits..... Why do you hate Field Trials so...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:29 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
I don't know the person...and I am not assuming anything. You have a body of work that either clarifies what you do and don't know, or you are purposely saying things that learned know more about to get a reaction. either way i suppose it gets you through the wretched winter. Remember, you are deal...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:16 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
It's hard for me to take you too seriously. It seems like you get most threads locked, which I assume is right around the corner. I left the term DUMMIES open, vague and not not a personal attack on an individual. However, if the shoe fits.....Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:These DUMMIES ? :roll:
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:13 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
I came home to find a window broken out and asked my son who was playing baseball if he did it. He said no, that a big windstorm just came up and it carried a rock right through it. I wasn't there to see it. I can't imagine it happening. I guess by your logic I was wrong to disbelieve my son? Some ...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:06 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
mask wrote:Geeeeze grouse hunter take a little hint will you. Even a fish wouldn't get caught if it kept his mouth shut.
I know these bozos are fishing.....I'm looking at -10 windchills with nothing to do but wait for better weather and keep these dummies busy.
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:56 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
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slistoe wrote:Sounds reasonable from your explanation. You came to have a leisurely stroll in the woods with your dog, he came to compete.Grousehunter123 wrote: He took second place. I got nothing.
Of course you weren't there to know that I walked to keep pace, but that won't stop you from starting a pissing match.
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:50 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
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OK...if you're done....I'm done.birddog1968 wrote:If you have anything else to say to me put it in a pm, I probably won't waste my time answering but it won't sidetrack a thread.
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:49 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
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If you've never seen it happen I can understand your confusion. That is no cause to belittle something your ignorant to. The story is an extreme and not the norm but speaks to being prepared so everyone has an enjoyable experience. If you can't imagine what you have never witnessed just ask don't b...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:42 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
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If you've never seen it happen I can understand your confusion. Broken bones and internal bleeding can be the result. It sounds very much like a car accident. The dog no longer can take hearing footbeats coming from behind and will posture to protect himself. I've never heard of such a thing coming...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:29 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
Re: field trial question ?
mask wrote: Grouse hunter, you just are not a fun guy are you?
Probably not to some. The stories that are told....... :roll: :roll:
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:28 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
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Your fishing for the worst to back up your bias. My dog was t-boned on point . nothing vicious about the other dog. Just wild like I said. I'm not fishing for anything. I've quoted your exact words trying to make sense out of it in the context of the OP wanting to learn about field trials. I offere...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:11 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
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Your fishing for the worst to back up your bias. My dog was t-boned on point . nothing vicious about the other dog. Just wild like I said. I'm not fishing for anything. I've quoted your exact words trying to make sense out of it in the context of the OP wanting to learn about field trials. I offere...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:55 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
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Never said any dog was vicious. I've guided with him for 7 years professionally and run him in non braced events. He's also spent every year of his life with me on prairie hunting trips. Well, I'm going by what you said which was this: "I've got a couple horror stories, and I had a dog darn near ki...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:24 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
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I'm not bitter about what I experienced, it was a young kid with a wild dog, I was using it as an example to watch , learn and come prepared for everyone's enjoyment. You should go watch one or two. See what they are like , ask questions and read the rules. Last thing you want to do is show up with...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:06 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial question ?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 33731
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You should go watch one or two. See what they are like , ask questions and read the rules. Last thing you want to do is show up with a dog that is going to ruin someone else's day. I've got a couple horror stories, and I had a dog darn near killed by someone's wild dog at a trial. I could no longer...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:05 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: My pup is eating birds on retreive
- Replies: 41
- Views: 16108
Re: My pup is eating birds on retreive
...if FF is the direction the OP wants to take ...I have to flinch when I think of the thought of a novice attempting FF armed with a book, DVD in one hand and a pup on a bench. Sometimes sending off a dog to a pro who will work and show you how it's done is the best approach . Couldn't agree with ...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:50 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: My pup is eating birds on retreive
- Replies: 41
- Views: 16108
Re: My pup is eating birds on retreive
My question is how do you reconcile advising the OP to immediately start the FF program and at the same time advising the OP to not stop using birds? The two are not compatible at the start of the FF process. Birds come last, as I'm sure you know. Grousehunter, many trainers ( how many I can't say ...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:52 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: My pup is eating birds on retreive
- Replies: 41
- Views: 16108
Re: My pup is eating birds on retreive
Crackerd, I agree with a lot of what you said, especially if FF is the direction the OP wants to take. Although I have to flinch when I think of the thought of a novice attempting FF armed with a book, DVD in one hand and a pup on a bench. Sometimes sending off a dog to a pro who will work and show ...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:53 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Used to.......
- Replies: 21
- Views: 9184
Re: Used to.......
The thing that bothers me about this forum is "the old guard". It seems like there is a handful of self appointed "gatekeepers" who effectively act as if this is "their" forum. There seems to be less regard for assisting and passing on helpful information to those new to the sport(s), and more empha...
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:07 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Team Momentum
- Replies: 47
- Views: 25977
Re: Team Momentum
Was the health and nutrition section the wrong area to post a comment about dog food?Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:Ho HMMMMMMMMMM :roll:
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:59 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Team Momentum
- Replies: 47
- Views: 25977
Team Momentum
Dr. Tim's dog food team momentum won the 2014 Iditarod for the third year in a row. I've fed this food for over two years and it really is "that good".
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:25 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: What's up with that?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 21977
Re: What's up with that?
Not all of the same litter have the same potential. For example: my wife was #2 of 5 in her family. (Hey, I didn't say litter) She's double degreed with math and mechanical engineering and highly technical in aerospace management. #1 sis is a housewife with no technical aptitude at all and frankly,...
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:34 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: What's up with that?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 21977
Re: What's up with that?
Not all of the same litter have the same potential. For example: my wife was #2 of 5 in her family. (Hey, I didn't say litter) She's double degreed with math and mechanical engineering and highly technical in aerospace management. #1 sis is a housewife with no technical aptitude at all and frankly,...
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:15 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: What's up with that?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 21977
Re: What's up with that?
Elkhunter wrote:I still like the litter announcements with the female on a checkcord.
Those are nice, as are the pictures of the male puppies peeing, as if they are precocious champions in the making, striking a world class point.
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:03 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: steady to shot question
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3980
Re: steady to shot question
My first response after reading your post is to heel her away, if she is that well trained. The purpose, whether heeling, cayrrying, leading or holding the collar is to discourage the dog from a temptation for delayed chasing. You are trying to get the dog's mind off that bird and onto hunting. Othe...
- Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:57 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: field trial scouts
- Replies: 52
- Views: 21697
Re: field trial scouts
I got my start in field trials because I could ride, we won thhe fiirst trial I ever saw. I have ran dogs down, threw them in the saddle and galloped 2 miles to the front. We had one that would run to me and jump up on the horse. I use to carry bailing twine, called a grass string, in my saddle bag...
- Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:50 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
GH, if I may call you that, you have now made 95 posts without a contribution beyond your belief everyone should fear All-Age breeding, and that is questionable as fact, but it is something. You are like a salesman that won't take yes for an answer. UNCLE. Your great debating skills have silienced ...
- Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:04 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Spring Training
- Replies: 38
- Views: 16267
Re: Spring Training
What's all that green and brown stuff in the pictures with than good looking Brittany?
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:58 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
Against my better judgement, here goes - although I didn't search, I know not everything is defined on the internet for cutting and pasting. At leasst not yet. And I doubt you will find definitions for delayed chase, or even marked bird, or perhaps even head trailing or self-relocation. All long es...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:40 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
Unconventional??? You are a self absorbed individual, aren't you. Tell you what, why don't you provide a written definition yourself? I have one published in 1977 - you trump me and I will look for another. Yes, I certainly do consider it an "unconventional definition" of BLINKING A BACK when it is...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:30 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
Shags, I'm not sure why you want to continue this foolishness as Neil and Slistoe both have ceased. The definition they gave of "Blinking a Back" several posts ago was: "When I use the term blinking a back...means they turn and shy away from the pointing dog, often running in fear.....since they are...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:14 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
Here you are...look on page 63. It's a fairly comprehensive compilation. But I'll put a handful of dog biscuits on a bet that you'll somehow find fault with it. :lol: http://images.akc.org/pdf/rulebooks/RFTPNT.pdf Neil said this: "Blinking a Back" is an accepted, defined term". I said this: "If the...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:19 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: My pup is eating birds on retreive
- Replies: 41
- Views: 16108
Re: My pup is eating birds on retreive
Tips or tricks? I would work on a check cord and get the retrieves quickly and direct leaving little time to mouth or chew the frozen bird. I would work on a conditioned retrieve component...HOLD. If you are not familiar with the hold exercise there are lots of resources available to learn. Good luc...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:57 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
Grousehunter, Say you have a project due at work today, but since the snow has melted and it's 50* outdoors you decide to call in sick. Then you go to Walmart to pick up a carton of Diet Coke and a bag of Doritos. You're just turning into the chips aisle when you spot your boss's secretary there lo...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:00 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
I really do give up. It is not a matter of calling it whatever we want. "Blinking a Back" is an accepted, defined term. For gosh sakes, don't give up. This is an open forum with hundreds of folks who might not say things the exact same way that you do. You are assuming we all do. If there is "an ac...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:34 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
Slistoe, "A blinking dog will not steal point, nor is he at high risk of inadvertently flushing birds.". Actually that's not correct. A dog that after seeing another dog pointing, hasn't backed that dog (call it whatever makes you happy) goes on to a variety of things. That dog may seek to steal poi...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:03 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
Hey, if you say it's important for you to distinguish that a dog fails to back or a dog blinks a back when you judge your trials, and you know for certain why it occurred, then so be it. Any trial I have ever been a part of makes no distinction. If a dog sees another dog on point, does not honor tha...
- Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:33 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
I do not accept the peace offering. In my experience you do not disrespect others with name calling and expect to be forgiven by a feeble attempt at humor. It will take true contrition. Not that I care. Charlie, It had nothing to do with you, I respect your positiion, sorry I was not clearier. It w...
- Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:02 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
Thanks for stepping up and giving your definition. My definition of blinking a back means after seeing a dog on point, the offending dog hasn't backed/honored/pointed the dog pointing the birds. There are any number of reasons a dog doesn't honor a dog on point. Some reasons are: fear, avoidance, do...
- Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:20 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
You better say UNCLE now Neil. (but I will say that where you used "often" does not jive with my experience, limited as it is in relation to yours.) I don't back down from bullies, particularly those that seek autonomy with screen names. But you are right "the often in fear" is my projections, I do...
- Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:06 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Backing/Honoring Help
- Replies: 104
- Views: 50234
Re: Backing/Honoring Help
Don't you remember what you posted? You said there was a "big" difference between a dog refusing and blinking a back. What is the big difference? They are the same thing. To blink the back is to refuse to back. To refuse to back is to have blinked the back. I don't believe this is worth arguing abo...