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Good discussion guys. I to come down on the side of following a standard. There are several points John has made that I take exception with but am not going to say I disagree with all of it. Several points: without a standard for each breed then I suggest we do away with breeds and call them all hun...

A round worm isn't serious. It would just be an indication that she needs worming again. Not a big deal. Puppies should be wormed evry few weeks if they are exposed to any possibility of picking up worms and on my opinion they all are. So every three months it is a good idea to worm and then do it t...

The pointers got their big run from the fox hounds. The European pointers were all big slow working dogs so we speeded them up years ago.

Ezzy

Right on Janet. All dogs of any breed should fit the standard or be eliminated. And along with that all show dogs should have to have at least a Junior Hunter title in its name or be eliminated. Now we get back to the true Dual Champion. And that is where we should all be. Getting there is going to ...

Don't want to make light of this but I have never heard of a dog getting in trouble from bee stings. Suppose it could happen but wouldn't be high on my list of things to worry about. Chances are if you go back you won't see the yellow jackets again but if you are worried tqke a can of wasp spray. Th...

Look back and it becomes evident that VG does not understand what we are talking about and has no worthwhile info to add to the conversation. Like he said many people on the internet have never traained a dog and he should know as it seems he is one of them. I don't think a thing he has offered to d...

Brenda

I agree but didnt state it very clear. I too look at pedigree and if its what i want i assume the pup can smell. And yes there is a difference.

Ezzy

Jon, You are talking about a 12 week old pup. He is just learning what smells are and where they go. This is all part of growing up. I don't think it is something you have to teach. Your responsibility is to give the pup the opportunity to experience all of the different smells and sounds of the wor...

Grant,

Nice looking Shorthair! How is his range? Bet I could keep up with him!!!

Ezzy

Marg, I think you are right on. Two dogs may smell the same thing and react completely different to it. I will stick with Snips method since i don't care how they smell but what they do about it.

Ezzy

Way to go Field Master! Even though I know huinting ability is the important thing on our minds, I still think a dog should have to win on the bench so we know that it meets the standard for its breed.

Its just as easy and a whole lot more pleasant to own a good looking hunting dog.

Ezzy

Farmers plant every acre they can because they are trying to make a living. They are still selling there produce for the same prices they were 30, 40, or 50 years ago but are paying the higher cost of gasoline and all other commodities they use.They dont need fence rows when they have no livestock. ...

Remember there could be a stress fracture that is hurting with weight. If its just soft tissue then the chances of further damage is very little whether he feels pain or not. I don't like the sounds of him not putting weight on it for several days. That just sounds like something more than a bruise ...

I don't know where to start. You are living in a different world than I. I live in a state that has no or very little public land. Our habitat or lack of it is private ground. If it is to improve we have to educate our neighbors and not the government. The further away we can keep government the bet...

Just remember to let them growup a little before using the e-collar. lol Have fun, you will have your hands full for a few years.

Ezzy

Boids, I'm not sure I follow just what you are trying to say. And some of the numbers seem out of line. I have to think if 8000 acres is required for a bird that doesn't travel we are in trouble. Do you realize that is 12 square miles? I think if you want an area that would hold enough quail to be r...

As long as it is about birddogs and not people we are ok. So far it has been true to that purpose. Small reminders often prevent bigger problems, and a united group of moderators will help keep it that way.

You've done well Grant.

Ezzy

I don't know how many of you get the channel RFD but they have a couple of hours of horse training on everyday. It's too bad someone doesn't do that with dogs. Would be a great show. Either tape the seminars or better yet just tape a half hour segment of the actual training and show it once a week. ...

Congrats guy. Your life will be busy for years to come. Enjoy

Ezzy

But why do you want to put all hunting preserves out of business? If you do that there won't be any place for me to train my dog or hunt for 6 months out of the year or a place to hold out trials within a 100 miles of here. If they have customers then there must be a demand for such places. And ther...

I'll bet most anything that they will be fine in the field. Its when they are together with nothing to do that the problem will reappear. Would bet most dogs that you run with in the field wouldn't do well kenneled together. These two females are hunting dogs first and will handle their chores witho...

Steven, I agree that you should try to stop it but was just trying to say it is a normal problem and no one has ever been able to stop a pup from chewing or biting because it is part of being a pup. I too repromand when it gets too rough. still have to do that with Rush sometimes. I think Aprock's i...

Steven, I agree that you should try to stop it but was just trying to say it is a normal problem and no one has ever been able to stop a pup from chewing or biting because it is part of being a pup. I too repromand when it gets too rough. still have to do that with Rush sometimes. I think Aprock's i...

Grant

Didn't know you were going to go with bRITS!

eZZY

Let me ask you all a question. How is a puppy supposed to show you love and how is it supposed to play with you? They can't talk, put their arms around you and give you a hug. The way they do it is to nibble. I've never seen a pup that doesn't bite. Repremand gently, give it something to chew on or ...

Come, whoa, and heel are the three obedience commands I teach a pup starting the day they can walk or when they are on a leash. I have never seen any carry over good or bad that affected their field work. Those commands can be started before they know there is such a thing as a bird since I feel the...

I am going to suggest that we forget that PETA/HSUS exist when making a decission on right or wrong but rather use your own common sense. Trying to appease the anti group will gain you nothing. They will still find fault with it. The general public has a little more sense than they are given credit ...

Patty, I wouldn't look for the situation to change till they settle who is dominant. I think you put them in a situation that they weren't comfortable with and needed to show the other dogs who was boss. Once that starts it has been my experience that it doesn't get a lot better till they settle it....

Unless something is amiss those aren't baby teeth at 9 months old. I'd check with your vet if you really can't find a reason like pulling on kennel wire or some such activity.

Ezzy

I agree! Hunting farms or preserves or whatever you want to call them are fulfilling a need so why are we trying to stop them? So what if they ban canned hunts of exotic animals and whitetails? Anyone who does isn't really a hunter or hunting anyway Why do you feel a need to deny someone the opportu...

I yodel to let the dog know where I am and a whistle is used as a command. I try to think that the dog is as concerned where I am as I am concerned where it is. If it can here me then it doesn't have to look for me but can pay strick attention to finding birds in front of me. Janet, I'm sorry. Argue...

I can't see the point of argueing whistle or voice since it is personnal preference. Personnally I think birds do not respond to the whistle like they do a voice so I like to use the whistle. Also I'm not convinced the dogs don't hear the whistle much further. You can't test the distance with a pers...

Birddog 67 wrote Playing devil's advocate here, but isn't this just another form of breeding for desired traits and or bloodlines? I mean that's been going on for quite some time and there is very little that's natural about that process with all the human intervention..............just food for th...

Are the pointers going to stand while the lab flushes? And if they do how long will it be before they start to flush? I know people do it down south at least but I haven't seen it and have always wondered. I sold my labs because I just didn't use them enough. And I never worried about missing a shot...

This case wasn't NOTHING. Thats why it made the papers. And thank God it isn't more common. Some one or more likely ones that had nothing to do had to find something they could do that would demonstrate how superior they were physically to another living thing. They didn't stop to think that it woul...

Been a life member for years. I have had a couple of items i have tested for them. They are a good club but i agree if bird hunting is your only interest it probably isn't worth your money. They do have products made to their spects too that they sell. Some of them are pretty good, I have a jacket a...

Sounds to me like after growing up on TAK's cooking, drywall tastes like a treat!

Ezzy

It only takes a small amount of dehy alfalfa to color it green. We used to put a small amount in some of our feeds to keep them green so the slight differences in the shades of brown ingredients wouldn't show and get everybody upset. Alfalfa is a great source of natual vitamins and the protein is fa...

Small differences in color usual happen when the ingredients change color a little depending normally on how long they were cooked. Every batch can have a slight color difference. Also a slight change in the amount of each ingredient can change it slightly. Maybe on of the ingredients is a little hi...

I introduced it to reinforce the come. I agree when used correctly it isnt anymore severe than any other correction. Ezzy

Go do your thing! Seeing a worm just indicates you haven't wormed her recently and it should be done in the next few days. If it was a round worm it isn.t a big deal and in no case does it indicate any kind of an emergency. Get her wormed next week again in about 4 weeks and you should be rid of the...

They possibly just changed formulas a little which isn't unusal. And sometimes the ingredients they use change color slightly. Doesn't mean that the feed is bad but its worth a call to see what they say.

Ezzy

A lot of people feed Pig Starter pellets or turkey or chicken feed.

Ezzy

How old is the Lab? I would think she would quit as she gets more experience and gets into more birds. Guess all I would worry about is the lack of coming when you call her. An e-collar should stop her reluctance real quick.

Ezzy

You might think that long time trialers would be old enough to control their emotions and not cause everyone to be uncomfortable around them.

Ezzy

Steve,

I think I mispoke or at least led you astray. They did have them there but not the weekend you were there. They were running tests bothsides that day.

Al

Steve,

They have them at DesPlaines. The GSH people had one going when we hunt tested there this spring. Tests were on one side of the road and trials on the other.

Ezzy

Ayres wrote

Is this in response to a lot of left out quote tags, causing some posts to become somewhat jarbled?

Ayres wrote:

Is this in response to a lot of left out quote tags, causing some posts to become somewhat jarbled?

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