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by AlPastor
Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:07 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Dog Food
Replies: 16
Views: 5088

Re: Dog Food

Okay, sorry Mr. Hubbard. I jest. I actually take my dog's food very seriously, but I also try to keep it economical. I believe, from my experience, that Purina Pro Plan is a good quality food regardless of what some folks say about it negatively, and 30/20 has always been good to my dogs. They also...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:53 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Dog Food
Replies: 16
Views: 5088

Re: Dog Food

All this has been discussed fully. I highly recommend you read some of the other food threads . "Here's one for the dog food gurus! " thread "Figuring out the % of calories from fat, protein, and carbs." thread I've fed it since my first dog many years ago and have been very happy with it( coat/ene...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:49 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP / GSP Breeder Recommendations
Replies: 52
Views: 25384

Re: EP / GSP Breeder Recommendations

Looks like we live in 2 different worlds. I certainly couldn't afford to buy 3 dogs in a month and the place them with trainers and handlers. Although it sounds like a lot of fun. I'm sure part of us were throwing out names that could provide him with a really nice gundog. My point is that, in the ...
by AlPastor
Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:07 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP / GSP Breeder Recommendations
Replies: 52
Views: 25384

Re: EP / GSP Breeder Recommendations

3 dogs in a month? That's nuts. I spend a couple years picking out a litter and getting a pup. They were no brainer litters. Lottery ticket bitches*, with great pedigrees, bred to national champ studs, with great pedigrees, that made sense. It should have been more. If i could have, i would have do...
by AlPastor
Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:16 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: New puppy
Replies: 10
Views: 3854

Re: New puppy

I am picking up my irish setter pup I mid Nov and am looking for a good puppy food. The breeder Ironfire setters is using purina puppy chow for their puppies and tuffys gold for the adults. Right now I am the process of switching my 5 year old springer over to Nutromax chicken and rice from diamond...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:19 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Iditarod Dog Breeds
Replies: 90
Views: 23527

Re: Iditarod Dog Breeds

ALPastor, should of addressed my last post to you as well. Sorry I left you out. I just have to laugh that a guy from Temecula is trying to take a swipe at Los Angeles. You're like 60 miles away. It isn't the country. For the record, I have two separate fireroads within 50 yards of our barn and eit...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:05 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Iditarod Dog Breeds
Replies: 90
Views: 23527

Re: Iditarod Dog Breeds

Al, Chicken By-Product Meal has the same requirements as any other ingredient and is tested to insure that it conforms to the guaranteed label requirements. Everyone gets hung up on ther term "by-product" All that says is the product left after whatever you are taking out. Just a simple way of stat...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:09 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Iditarod Dog Breeds
Replies: 90
Views: 23527

Re: Iditarod Dog Breeds

Bill, I am starting to think you may burn more calories arguing about dog food then your dog does consuming it. Another interesting thread hijacked and probably locked in short order because of your personal agenda and the evidence that doesn't fit it. You argue about top mushers, then one chimes i...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:01 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Iditarod Dog Breeds
Replies: 90
Views: 23527

Re: Iditarod Dog Breeds

Better than what, having healthy dogs and winning top races? How much bird dogging and mushing goes on in LA, must be frustrating imagining how good your theory could work, but never getting to try it? Give it a rest, we all know your thoughts on dog food. I don't know any sled dog kennels that exc...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:47 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Iditarod Dog Breeds
Replies: 90
Views: 23527

Re: Iditarod Dog Breeds

Chicken bi-product meal, and fish meal I think would be considered meat, but I'll give you that it doesn't sound ideal. My dogs love the sardines and I'm trying to feed them one or two every day. Except I went to WY to run them for 3 days and didn't bother to take the fish along. With out a doubt C...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:49 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Iditarod Dog Breeds
Replies: 90
Views: 23527

Re: Iditarod Dog Breeds

Chicken bi-product meal, and fish meal I think would be considered meat, but I'll give you that it doesn't sound ideal. My dogs love the sardines and I'm trying to feed them one or two every day. Except I went to WY to run them for 3 days and didn't bother to take the fish along. Chicken by-product...
by AlPastor
Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:12 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Wife is having an issue, need some input.
Replies: 28
Views: 6026

Re: Wife is having an issue, need some input.

Lol, my dogs are visually depressed when they come home from summer or winter camp.

Seriously, the first trip to the trainer, it takes about a day or two for them to start feeding properly again and a week or 2 to build some trust.
by AlPastor
Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:41 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Iditarod Dog Breeds
Replies: 90
Views: 23527

Re: Iditarod Dog Breeds

I feed my hunting dogs the same as the sleddogs. Just less. Good quality dry dog food all year long. My favorite is Carabou Creek Gold. I used to feed meat, but now just use Annamaet Impact. It's easier to store and smells a whole lot better. . I also use Astaxinthin during the testing and hunting ...
by AlPastor
Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:20 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Iditarod Dog Breeds
Replies: 90
Views: 23527

Re: Iditarod Dog Breeds

Ok guys there is mushing and there is the Iditarod. Not always the same. An Iditarod team must have a double coat and be a northern bred dog, husky! Though not necesarily a Siberian. The dog of choice is the Alaskan Husky. Not a registered breed, but certainly no mut either. There are long pedigree...
by AlPastor
Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: To many birds for the pup
Replies: 4
Views: 1296

Re: To many birds for the pup

Today we got into a huge covey of quail. Pup pointed a bird and 5 flushed. I shot one and she was standing waiting for fetch command. She shot straight to the downed bird and started back then dropped the bird. I was about to get critical but she was on point. 4 birds flushed wild from that bush. S...
by AlPastor
Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:12 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP / GSP Breeder Recommendations
Replies: 52
Views: 25384

Re: EP / GSP Breeder Recommendations

Ms. Cage wrote:Tim's a very stand up guy.
+1
by AlPastor
Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:02 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What really matters with a pup?
Replies: 41
Views: 9024

Re: What really matters with a pup?

One of the many things that I will do that shows intelligence as well as how mailable a young pup may be, is by putting them on the stakeout chain with other dogs. At 9-10 weeks old they can show you a lot of what they will be like as older pups or adults. I like the ones that fight it, but quickly...
by AlPastor
Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:54 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What really matters with a pup?
Replies: 41
Views: 9024

Re: What really matters with a pup?

I agree with those who think it is more about the expected ranging distances of a pup instead of the pup having preferences for one kind of game bird over another. I hunt mainly pheasants and snipe with other game bird species only rarely being hunted for. I know before I release the dog to hunt fo...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:57 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What really matters with a pup?
Replies: 41
Views: 9024

Re: What really matters with a pup?

So i plan on getting my first bird dog puppy within the next year and I only hunt for grouse and woodcock, my question is When im looking for a breeder with puppies does it matter whether the dogs parents have been trained on pheasants and never seen a grouse in their lives? Would it be difficult t...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:55 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Yesterday I spilled some dry deer corn in the dog yard, forgetting about it, I almost had a dog fight when I let them out as they pushed one another to get the last kernel. Dry corn! My dogs must have missed the memo about evolving to only eat meat. I have seen coyotes eat corn, wheat, other grains...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:49 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Anyone with any experience with performance dogs would never use retrievers as an example. And for those that believe the Iditorid is the extreme test, I counter with there a reason that pointers are not allowed entry and the top contenders often travel South to learn about optimum conditioning. Yo...
by AlPastor
Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:43 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

That is the point you all miss, feed what wins. You have a better feed, prove it by winning. No, you're missing the point. You're try to turn a single variate equation, where the genes, training and conditioning are all constants so all we haven't measure is the delta of performance based upon diff...
by AlPastor
Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:58 pm
Forum: Product Ratings & Reviews
Topic: Help me find a BOOT
Replies: 19
Views: 9333

Re: Help me find a BOOT

I always run Obenaufs Heavy Duty LP over any leather boots I own, even if they are labeled as waterproof. That Obenaufs does wonders for boots honestly. And really rub it into the seams good. You should be good to go. My 400 gram Thinsulate Danners, nor my uninsulated Cabelas Kangaroo Upland boots ...
by AlPastor
Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:48 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Activity
Replies: 14
Views: 3493

Re: Activity

What it says to me is the 40 hour work week or any other arbitrary set # of hours= full time job is an outdated concept. If we all worked in production/manufacturing jobs then I could understand working X number of hours to produce X number of widgets. But since most of us work in jobs that don't r...
by AlPastor
Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:12 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

What I have proven irrefutably is diet is not a limiting factor in my dog's success. That isn't an accurate statement. You could have won in spite of or due to your nutrition but you can't make any statement without comparison to a control group. The control group is your dogs, if they had ever won...
by AlPastor
Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:30 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Neil wrote:What I have proven irrefutably is diet is not a limiting factor in my dog's success.
That isn't an accurate statement. You could have won in spite of or due to your nutrition but you can't make any statement without comparison to a control group.
by AlPastor
Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:55 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

That is the point you all miss, feed what wins. You have a better feed, prove it by winning. No, you're missing the point. You're try to turn a single variate equation, where the genes, training and conditioning are all constants so all we haven't measure is the delta of performance based upon diff...
by AlPastor
Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:00 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Found some frozen sardines but they're $1.80 lb. I'll get some and see how the dogs like it but You raw feeders must live in a less thriving economy than Utah :lol: Out here in the land of fruits and nuts, I'm angry when I don't get my chicken leg quarters for under $0.30/lb and sardines for under ...
by AlPastor
Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:12 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

If you are looking for a certain winning strategy, look other than adjustment to food. Probably the wisest statement made in the whole topic. Athletic performance is a combination of genetics, conditioning, and nutrition. When searching for a winning strategy, you can't change the dog's genetics bu...
by AlPastor
Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:24 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

So because pointers and setters have 2 trials that are 3 hours stakes and only around a 100 of both breeds run per year that changes the way those breeds metabolize energy from nutrition? If there was no difference between pointers, shorthairs and viszlas then you would see those other breeds in th...
by AlPastor
Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:56 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Depends on the dog and time of year. 2-4 cups should make it easy :wink: Here is a recipe: 1/2 cup PPP 30/20 2 ounces. Sardines, Raw 1 Chicken Drumstick, raw (~4 ounces) 1/2 teaspoon Coconut Oil 1/2 teaspoon Canola Oil Total Calories = 483 (1 cup PPP 30/20 is 475) Calories from: 51% Fat 35% Protein...
by AlPastor
Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:33 pm
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: Energy at impact.
Replies: 39
Views: 12594

Re: Energy at impact.

I try not to apply my morals to others, but I cannot justify hunting wild pheasant with a .410. It is not sporting, it does not show great skill, it is just irresponsible. You want to prove your prowess with a shotgun, try shooting a .410 at sporting clays at $10.00 a bird! Every year since I can r...
by AlPastor
Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:59 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Depends on the dog and time of year. 2-4 cups should make it easy :wink: Here is a recipe: 1/2 cup PPP 30/20 2 ounces. Sardines, Raw 1 Chicken Drumstick, raw (~4 ounces) 1/2 teaspoon Coconut Oil 1/2 teaspoon Canola Oil Total Calories = 483 (1 cup PPP 30/20 is 475) Calories from: 51% Fat 35% Protein...
by AlPastor
Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:35 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: force fetch questio
Replies: 17
Views: 4165

Re: force fetch questio

We train everyday for about 10 or 15 min. That brings another question up. Should i be working him for longer each day? I just chose that cause everything (as well as trainer he goes to) have said keep it short a end on a good note so he has fun. When trainer told me that it was more for when he wa...
by AlPastor
Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:38 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Al, I'll take you up on that but I'll put you to task and see where it goes. Here's 3 types that I've fed this last year. PPP 30/20, Nutrisource performance 30/20, and PPP 26/16. All three are chicken based and corn on the two Purina brands but the Nutrisource may have been rice. I'd love to know w...
by AlPastor
Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:38 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP / GSP Breeder Recommendations
Replies: 52
Views: 25384

Re: EP / GSP Breeder Recommendations

You are surrounded by top gsp kennels and hobby breeders. You don't have to go out of area for a top field trial prospect let alone top notch hunting dog. I actually know of two good litters on the ground right now in Kansas that should be close by. Good guy, he's got an almost 4 month old female th...
by AlPastor
Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:22 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Coffman shows that diet matters. If you don't care to realize it is a continuum, and the further one reduces the carb load the more performance continues to improve, what can I say? The sled dog guys know this. Someday the leassons will sink in the gundog community (which is way behind the times). ...
by AlPastor
Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:23 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

While I agree that most of the feeds are the same basic stuff in different bags, scientific studies are hardly a thought exercises. They are the product of testing against a control group. There is nothing that is more real proof. So, you have a scientific study showing that if you feed your huntin...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:38 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

So either he misspoke and that isn't the case or they take sponsorship into consideration and it effects their decision making process when selecting a feed. There is no both ways on this one. Either it is a factor or it isnt. Given that there are only so many different ways to mix up a bag of feed...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:35 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

I am going to suggest that you decide if you want to be the judge, the jury, the prosecutor, or maybe just sit in the gallery but You can't be all of them. It isn't up to you to decide what someone else says or means, as you are only responsible for your opinion, same as the rest of us and it may s...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:11 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

There was no contradiction unless you have already proven dogs eating some other feed do better in trials and I don't think that has or will happen except possibly in your mind.. Ezzy Words have meanings so there is a contradiction. He said that he knows pros that "reward purina" for their sponsors...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:05 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Please do not forget most of the money spent on canine nutrition reseach comes from Purina, and they are by far the leading sponsor of field trials. Iams was doing some, but they capitulated the performance, pointing dog market. I know most of the pros that run at Ames reward the Purina contributio...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:00 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

I don't know of 1 Pro, Judge or serious Trialer that feeds a raw diet. I would bet they would if there was an advantage. PPP has fueled more FC's and although I use something else, you cant argue with success. I said RAW, not which kibble is best. I also don't care about 1 breeds Nationals. Read mu...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:39 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

I don't know of 1 Pro, Judge or serious Trialer that feeds a raw diet. I would bet they would if there was an advantage. PPP has fueled more FC's and although I use something else, you cant argue with success. Well if you look at the recent GSP nationals, we can go down the list of placements and I...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:03 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: AKC Limited Registration
Replies: 123
Views: 49699

Re: AKC Limited Registration

gonehuntin' wrote:besides which, I could really give a crap less.
I believe you mean "couldn't" but now I'm just being a prick
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:22 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: AKC Limited Registration
Replies: 123
Views: 49699

Re: AKC Limited Registration

What about the hundreds of labs from all over the country that just point naturally? They certainly weren't from Mayo's kennel. I saw it in locally bred Idaho dog's, dog's of all color in Ca., labs in BC. Your assumption is ridiculous and totally without any merit. The same guy that over 99% of Sil...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:07 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: AKC Limited Registration
Replies: 123
Views: 49699

Re: AKC Limited Registration

You're making assumptions. I have seen silver labs for 35 years, mainly in Ca. Everyone always assumed they were a color phase of chocolates. Same as there's yellows that are nearly white and yellows that are dark red. I have no idea where the dog's came from. I was a trainer and took what I was gi...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:26 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

it was an easy task to add to their usual kibble. My point. No one is leaving kibble behind and seriously hunting or trialing. I travel with 8 - 12 dogs, often off the grid. What are you considering off the grid? No electricity? I run my trailer off a diesel genny. I take 6 dogs and, if chose too, ...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:17 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Bill, I attended the symposium, and my notes reflect Mike's observations. I think we have tried to represent a layman's understanding of the science, not ignore it. You have to understand why someone would question if you do understand the science. Iirc from reading old threads, you're feeding Puri...
by AlPastor
Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:35 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Here's one for the dog food gurus!
Replies: 183
Views: 36137

Re: Here's one for the dog food gurus!

Bill, What I am doing isn't perfect, not even optimal, but it works after a fashion. The weak link in my program is not nutrition, in fact it is pretty far down the list of limiting factors. Following general incompetence, laziness, time, money, health, dedication, facilities, access to wild birds,...