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All first time NAVHDA members must be aware of a decade long tradition....you are required to by a beer for every gray haired chapter member that you meet....as a tribute to those that have come before you...don't forget to tip the waitress/bar maid too!!

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What will you be using your DD for?? What will you be hunting with your DD in South Africa??

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Try taking a look at www.16ga.com Quite a bit of info and knowledgeable people.

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You have to ask yourself what you expect of a dog. There will probably be more than one breed that will do the work. Its not the breed that's the key-its the breeder. Remember that you hunt 3-4 months/year but you have to live with the dog the whole year long. So, a calm dog that is easy to live wit...

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The wife told me I couln't have any more dogs!

I'd have given the wife the $15 as you showed her to the door-you know, as travelin' money

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I've seen pictures of German dogs with a lot of white. I know it wasn't a preferred color by some over there but I think it is here and has been bred for. Where do you think it comes from? White is one of the colors of the breed-it is actually the patterning that leads to an all white dog. It would...

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When I bought the Cummins in November, Dodge was offering a $5000 incentive only on diesel trucks. There was a $2500 incentive on gas trucks, so at the time the diesel wasn't costing me all that much more.

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Bought the Cummins-an '06 with a few of the goodies-got it for $11,800 off the sticker price. Only have 12K on it but I'm getting 16 driving local and 18 on the road. Put a mild chip in it and that made a big difference as far as driveability. Mileage keeps getting better but its already better than...

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Give me a break.... it looks like I have been hanging around with a bunch of blue haired dog show matrons!!! Where are the pictures of you guys wiping their little tushies????

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A great place to teach the "whoa" command which I don't use around game-only as an obedience command. I don't allow any dog to bolt through a door, out of a kennel, in or out of the truck, etc.---its always "whoa" (using the hand signal as well). By the time pups are 5-6 months old, they sit by the ...

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ezzy, Sorry, I missed your post-wasn't being rude. I lived and worked and hunted in Europe for years. I also go back 1-2/yr for driven hunts on big game. The owner of my favorite DD stud dog in Europe is addicted to hog hunting and has used his dogs for 30 years for these hunts. Hogs in Europe are n...

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I just made the jump to a Cummins in December -2500 Quad SB, 3.73-added a mid-rise cap. I did the math and even if the fuel is a wash over time because of higher fuel prices here in the east, I don't see how I can lose. I have had F-150 Crew Cabs and with 150-170,000 miles, you're lucky to get $7500...

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griffgirl, Sounds like your dog has already had success at this so no need to have your head spinning. Judges know where the bird has gone-they know which way the wind is blowing and they can tell if your dog has taken a line, head up, downwind of the track. If your dog does that, you'll do FINE!! O...

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A dog with a large amount of bird desire and drive is what many hunters--not just those into field trials--want. Such dogs seem more likely to leave the track and forge ahead to find that bird when they are young--if they are good at that, and persistent--and find the bird without too much hunting-...

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What about the young dog whose been blessed with enough natural ability to realize that he's got a running bird that doesn't smell wounded? He realizes that he's got the wind at his back, so the best thing to do is to get his butt downwind and get his nose into the wind so he can scent the bird ins...

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We disagrre about dogs and retrieveing. The greatest independent, stylish dog that either left birds or wasn't a good locator of shot/wounded game would be a second class dog for me. We probably are in much agreement, just coming at the issue from different sides. larue, The trainer of this dog used...

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I have no idea if they would pass an NAVADA test but I have never had any interest in their type of training in developing the stylish independent birddog. "Their" type of training also develops some wonderful independent and stylish dogs-who also happen to do a lot more than field work. Apologize ...

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It only takes one small grain to bring down most pheasants I have ever shot. WOW-where are those birds? Mid and late season pheasant in SD this year were running like track stars and some getting up at distance. I've rocked 'em with 5's and still watched the dog run them down. I couldn't suggest an...

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Drahtsundbraats,most dogs will track some,and some people think a dog must drop its head to track,but it is just not so. I am well aware of this, but I don't think you start out a pup teaching it to "air track". The most important thing in all of this is that tracking is not a free ranging search. ...

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Tracking is a crapshoot,when the condtions are bad,many dogs will do poorly,when conditions are good,many will do ok.Cover and weather can really affect a tracking score. I agree with this but good tracking dogs get the job done whatever. Many are afraid to get their dogs tracking because they thin...

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I think the point I was trying to make, though, is that some trainers can take an all-age bred dog and make it hunt at shooting dog range, Agreed...but this is not 90% of the handlers that I see. They are better off to get the dog whose "default" mode is to come back looking to see where you are. On...

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There are different breeds from many kennels that will do what you want. Look for the breeder that is prioritizing the temperament and abilities that are important to you. We tend to talk about dogs like they were hammers and wrenches. I can drive nails with a wrench-but the right hammer works bette...

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The biggest virtue of the pointer is its ability to be molded in the hands of a knowledgable trainer. I guess what I would need to know is what do you consider a knowledgeable trainer? I assume your saying a first timer will have an equal chance with either breed. I have always found the versatiles...

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I have only worked with a few GSP and Pointers over the years-maybe 12-15 of each. I would say they are capable of the same level of work. I agree that if you want an AA dog, find a good Pointer breeding. The real importance of this question is not the finished product but how you get there. IMO, th...

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So are you saying that whether Pointer or GSP, I can expect pretty much the same performance? What about if I need the water work and a good duck search? Are you saying I can expect that from any good Pointer or GSP field line as well?

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You seem to be saying that there pretty much interchangeable. Do you mean that you could find certain examples of each breed that will do the same thing? Or do you mean overall they'll pretty much do as well as the other?

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My hunting buddy had both knees replaced 4 years ago and at 76 can walk me into the ground (I'm a lot younger). He did have some pain in one knee for about 8 months but then it was gone and he's been good to go. Big key is the post-op therapy. Can be real tough but those that tough it out do very we...

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There are quite a few-I'll post them as soon as I can get to my reference material. Basically there are multiple motherlines from DK, PP, GR (Griffon) and ST (Stichelhaar).

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Did you get your pup from Willow Rock? or Wiredhaus?

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Mine run in the morning - spend the day outside - get fed in the basement kennel room - and then wiped down so they can spend the evening with the family.

That's if one of 'em isn't in the pickup with me!!!

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Aw, c'mon Rick-don't let this whole thing flare up. Its a matter of expectation often. I don't expect my dogs to run with the big gun dogs but they get the job done. Others may not need to see their dog half way across the St Lawrence chasing down a duck-their dogs get done what they need. However, ...

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Is the pup out of Droll? Heiko? I'm not so sure what these motherlines really mean today. I think back 80 years ago when the breed was still in its early years, it probably was a real consideration. I have seen so many dogs in the past 10 years in Germany, from all different motherlines, that appear...

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Found this girl on point on the edge of a dried up slough in ND-thought I had a cockbird in the bag and out jumps this monster. She was steady on the "flush" so I put it down. I love Hasenpfeffer!!!

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Yes-this is the second I have gotten from the kennel and I've known him since the well known M litter he had in 1998. I like his style of dog and they're dogs with lots of the natural stuff these dogs need. This bitch is a bit big for me (change the plumbing, and she'd be a great lookin' male :lol: ...

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My training buddy used his GSP and Brit years back to hunt turkey, especially in the fall. He'd let the dog locate and break them up and then try to call a bird in. His dogs would lay down behind him-nice calm dogs. If my dogs point rabbit or hare, I will shoot them-otherwise there is no reward. Wit...

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Its Adaling-Saarforst DK

Do you have any idea how long you would have to breed back on any of these motherlines to reach any kind of coefficient level? Not sure it means much anymore.

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I think one of the biggest issues that gets in the way is the inability to discuss the pros AND the cons. Some folks get real defensive, especially when a discussion turns to the downside of a sport, activity, difficulties in a breed or whatever. None of us plays perfect games. There are no perfect ...

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This black female is from the Boeckenhagen kennel and is sired by Zorro vom Roedlberg. My liver bitch is from the Falkenberg kennel sired by Karlo vom Landhagen. Not bad style for one of those old ugly, mean, pig dogs-uh??? Must be some Pointer in there-how else could you get a nice high head like t...

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Yes, that's what I meant-maybe I didn't use the right term.

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I have always fed once/day, in the early evening and then I don't allow hard excercise before the next morning. I don't kow how common torsion is in the various sporting breeds, but it has always appeard to me that the larger the breed the bigger the chance.

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The good eatin' is right!!!! Gettin ready for Sharptail Ragout this Saturday night-little Cabernet-hunk of apple pie-dog laying over my feet-wife gazing adoringly-NAW, that last part ain't gonna happen!!!!

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This dog has to be put in some kind of clamp thing just to recieve his yearly boosters because the vet is affraid of the dog. I am not affraid of this dog and the dog is making progress. Can I ask why you would keep such a dog? I think often we just aren't willing to make the hard choices. I'm sure...

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John, John, John.... You need to think about some therapy and I say that honestly . I understand your agenda-to kill of the German registries in NA (????) but you make yourself ridiculous with your sweeping generalities. I don't want aggressive dogs in any breed-and all the folks that I know are of ...

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That "I just want a Burd Dog" Crowd are the people who have kept every breed going and are the major factor yet today in what we are really doing in the dog world. I believe that the most serious are a great plus to every breed. But as it concerns the versatile breeds, FT is also very destructive. ...

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I'd be glad to post similar problems from domestic chat groups?

Wanna challenge me, John

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all the good brought forth by dedicated breeders is undermined by the "I don't care about testing, I just want a Burd Dawg" crowd.

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I don't absolutely need a dog to find birds. But you do need one to make sure the ones you shoot go home. I hear the resistance to the idea but when you come right down to it, as responsible sportsmen (and women), its the only way. Otherwise its not about hunting, its just shooting and killing (or w...

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In the snow, I only hunt the white one for geese. :wink: I was just razzing you, John. Don't take it too seriously-soemtimes we all have to back off, take a breather and find some balance. I'm serious, though, if you need one of these for a little therapy-I'll lend you one. I've got a couple that ca...

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I didn't mean they were bred to fight other dogs, but when you breed for a dog that will tackle various fur varieties, go after a wild boar German's do not want dogs to tackle boar-dogs that close recklessly on wild hogs get killed or maimed. Dogs that are not controllable in the presence of game a...

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mid and late season sharpies-that's the measure of a dog, especially on a windy day. You find out which dog has the nose, which dog is honest, and which dog can hold 'em.

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