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by bustingcover
Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What is the MOST money you've seen or heard a dog sell for?
Replies: 39
Views: 15503

Re: What is the MOST money you've seen or heard a dog sell for?

16k and 24k are the two highest ive seen sold for
by bustingcover
Fri May 01, 2020 9:09 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP
Replies: 40
Views: 12959

Re: Stamina Expectations in GWP vs PP

You can definitely find what you’re looking for. The NW breeds some of the best GWPs in the country built for Chukar hunting and waterfowl. Some breeders to check out would be Bonepoint, cascade, wireswest, and dual shot.
by bustingcover
Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Cheap(er) Price on Pro Plan
Replies: 15
Views: 8939

Re: Cheap(er) Price on Pro Plan

That’s a first for me. They keep making em smaller and smaller.
by bustingcover
Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:31 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Genetics vs. Training
Replies: 44
Views: 17475

Re: Genetics vs. Training

It’s a bit of both. I’m sure any of those guys’ top 5 dogs could make the switch after a while lay-off to get acclimated but the majority probably wouldn’t be competitive with the switch. You would also have to consider the grounds where the tighter grounds in the East are more receptive of a handi...
by bustingcover
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:46 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Genetics vs. Training
Replies: 44
Views: 17475

Re: Genetics vs. Training

It’s a bit of both. I’m sure any of those guys’ top 5 dogs could make the switch after a while lay-off to get acclimated but the majority probably wouldn’t be competitive with the switch. You would also have to consider the grounds where the tighter grounds in the East are more receptive of a handie...
by bustingcover
Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: "Roading" tips- bike or treadmill?
Replies: 17
Views: 8483

Re: "Roading" tips- bike or treadmill?

The treadmill is better and safer. Set it at an incline and keep the speed at a trot
by bustingcover
Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: Product Ratings & Reviews
Topic: Garmin 220 tracking collar ???
Replies: 2
Views: 6805

Re: Garmin 220 tracking collar ???

Depends on the collar. 220 can track up to dc40. 320 can track everything a 220 can and higher
by bustingcover
Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:07 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Bar P prefix of the English Pointer
Replies: 4
Views: 3876

Re: Bar P prefix of the English Pointer

Bar P is Bob Saari
by bustingcover
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Small town pointers
Replies: 5
Views: 4397

Re: Small town pointers

I keep 2 all age dogs in a condo in Portland. Drive 30 minutes out the city 3 days a week to road them for an hour on logging roads.
by bustingcover
Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pro trainers
Replies: 4
Views: 2232

Re: Pro trainers

It’s always hot in the summer. Just work early and late.
by bustingcover
Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:39 am
Forum: Training
Topic: training a pointing breed to sit on command
Replies: 51
Views: 28393

Re: training a pointing breed to sit on command

You can teach your dog sit it’s not going to hurt anything. If your dog does any command other than the one you taught/are teaching then that’s a training error. If your dog woahs when you tell it to come to you is it the woah commands fault? I’ve seen dogs lay down under too much pressure and the o...
by bustingcover
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Dog killed posusm
Replies: 18
Views: 9201

Re: Dog killed posusm

Your dog should be fine possums rarely carry rabies and don’t put up a fight. They will mostly just lay there and get chewed on until they get a chance to escape. Pretty peaceful little things do way more good than harm.
by bustingcover
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Can dogs be trained to herd wild deer?
Replies: 14
Views: 7784

Re: Can dogs be trained to herd wild deer?

Dakotazeb wrote:Jon, what the heck question are you going to come up with next? :roll: Seems we are getting too many of your crazy questions lately. Give it a rest, please.
Hahaha I was getting ready to say, this guy might be going crazy stuck in his house all day.
by bustingcover
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:41 pm
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: I am very disheartened about hounds in America today.
Replies: 22
Views: 15754

Re: I am very disheartened about hounds in America today.

walkers are some of the most common hounds around back east and down south. All around dog that will run anything you want them to. If you’re having trouble looking for a hound you’re looking in the wrong place. English coonhounds are another really nice breed. Also most hound guys register ukc or p...
by bustingcover
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:48 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Ideas for exercise during winter
Replies: 15
Views: 4710

Re: Ideas for exercise during winter

wow those dog pacers and trotters are quite pricey. I will have to build up some cash for that, it would be nice to have though. which one would you guys recommend a pacer or trotter? Dog trotters are expensive but well worth it when you have one. Quality is really second to none. If I were going t...
by bustingcover
Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:08 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Ideas for exercise during winter
Replies: 15
Views: 4710

Re: Ideas for exercise during winter

Im going to rephrase it. Is there any particular indoor exercise you guys can recommend for a gun dog? Thanks Treadmill. If you only have an electric one then I like to put them at a nice trot on an incline. Make sure to take them out to use the bathroom first. Human treadmill works fine but I reco...
by bustingcover
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Started Dog
Replies: 19
Views: 6398

Re: Started Dog

My idea of a started dog is green broke. Basic obedience, introduced to birds, knows woah, steady to flush.
by bustingcover
Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pointer Value
Replies: 17
Views: 5059

Re: Pointer Value

Honestly the value is how much someone’s willing to pay and how much you’re willing to let him go for. I would say anywhere from 1500-3000. But it’s hard to find people willing to spend big money on a dog. Personally I would just try to find the best home I could for him where he can be hunted and t...
by bustingcover
Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:58 pm
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: What's the difference between a "dove" and a "pigeon"?
Replies: 9
Views: 7773

Re: What's the difference between a "dove" and a "pigeon"?

A pigeon is a dove but a dove is not always a pigeon.
by bustingcover
Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:08 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: AKC Amateur definition
Replies: 21
Views: 8329

Re: AKC Amateur definition

Hi: I am far from a professional Hunt Test or Field Trial trainer. However, I would like to do puppy head start when I open my new kennel. It would be getting the pups used to duck blinds, vests, decoys, gun shots, water, and baby retrieves. If I take money for starting puppies, would I fall into t...
by bustingcover
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: puppy pricing change after a deposit
Replies: 19
Views: 5778

Re: puppy pricing change after a deposit

Once you put your deposit down the price should not change you’re locked into an agreement. I have never heard of this being done but doesn’t surprise me anymore with the way some of these breeders operate today. Just the other day I saw a litter advertised + sales tax. Never in my life have I seen ...
by bustingcover
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Why do we want retrievers to run 500+ yard marks and blinds?
Replies: 46
Views: 13219

Re: Why do we want retrievers to run 500+ yard marks and blinds?

Competitions are about extremes and the best possible performance. They want to breed a dog who can complete 500+ yard marks and blinds so that the mediocre dog is still serviceable.
by bustingcover
Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:57 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Help and opinions on what breed for new pup
Replies: 28
Views: 8376

Re: Help and opinions on what breed for new pup

Britts do compete in coverdog trials well but they’re definitely a minority breed in that game. I recommend getting a Setter from Long Gone Kennels or Grouse Ridge.
by bustingcover
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Sharpies and Huns?
Replies: 6
Views: 4528

Re: Sharpies and Huns?

I only have experience hunting Huns in Oregon but I targeted them specifically last season and had a great year. My best times were later in the morning around 10-12 after they were done eating also later in the evening close to the end of shooting hours. I would find them in the short sage grasses ...
by bustingcover
Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:44 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: I am looking for field-quality Irish setter pups.
Replies: 65
Views: 35374

Re: I am looking for field-quality Irish setter pups.

I've done some more research and have decided that Irish Setters aren't a good idea for me. They won't do well left home all day long while I, a bachelor, am at work. A pair of Golden retrievers would work better and would be pretty much guaranteed to do water work. Setters are never guaranteed to ...
by bustingcover
Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:08 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: DNA testing
Replies: 11
Views: 3574

Re: DNA testing

Don it’s a Pudelpointer and that’s not how the breed was made it’s a very old breed. I’m surprised the owner was so mistaken seeing as it’s a hard and expensive dog to get a hold of the people with them usually know everything about them. And as far as dna testing goes it’s mostly just so you can’t ...
by bustingcover
Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:30 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch
Replies: 48
Views: 15495

Re: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch

This has been a very interesting thread. I have been at a loss as to how to train a dog to not retrieve a dead bird it finds while hunting independently, while still expecting the dog to retrieve all shot birds eagerly/well. I understand the real issue was whether the dog killed a live bird which i...
by bustingcover
Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch
Replies: 48
Views: 15495

Re: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch

If you count a dead bird as a find and the dog does not find a live bird, the dog should get a set up retrieve. He has a find. You could give a low score in bird finding ability but you still have to give him a retrieve. All a dog needs is one find to get a passing bird finding score. So the dog co...
by bustingcover
Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:50 am
Forum: Training
Topic: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch
Replies: 48
Views: 15495

Re: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch

Not sure if you are talking test or trial or both. In a hunting test most judges will allow the dog to bring back a cold dead bird. A warm bird means you are out. The, "you can't judge what you don't see" is a theory. If you run late in an event there might be quite a few dead birds on the course. ...
by bustingcover
Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:08 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Homer's or ferals
Replies: 14
Views: 4365

Re: Homer's or ferals

Homers are not necessarily bigger than ferals depends on the strain of birds you have. Some lines are bigger and bred for hardier races while others are smaller. I keep both and prefer the smaller birds but if you breed too many small birds together you lose durability. I prefer tiny hens and medium...
by bustingcover
Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:12 am
Forum: Training
Topic: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch
Replies: 48
Views: 15495

Re: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch

Not sure if you are talking test or trial or both. In a hunting test most judges will allow the dog to bring back a cold dead bird. A warm bird means you are out. The, "you can't judge what you don't see" is a theory. If you run late in an event there might be quite a few dead birds on the course. ...
by bustingcover
Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:53 am
Forum: Birds & Bird Supplies
Topic: Buying Pigeons - Questions
Replies: 32
Views: 20172

Re: Buying Pigeons - Questions

There's expense in raising them in the first place. For less than $7, I can shoot them myself. Think of them as quail or chukar's that always go home to be used another day! I've been thinking, thinking stage only at this point. I could rent out fly aways for say $2 a flight. If a bunch of guy's we...
by bustingcover
Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch
Replies: 48
Views: 15495

Re: FT dead bird retrievals and training fetch

Don’t shock the dog around dead birds. Stop playing fetch with dead birds. If your dog is already retrieving then stop training fetch so much.
by bustingcover
Thu May 31, 2018 9:44 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Quasi-pointers
Replies: 42
Views: 9152

Re: Quasi-pointers

DNA only affects dogs moving forward to prove that the parents are who they say they are. DNA has no bearing on a half/half drop dog that is used for breeding and not competed with. Especially if that dog is a bitch. If it’s a stud and he sires something like 7 litters with the AKC then he must be D...
by bustingcover
Thu May 31, 2018 5:44 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Quasi-pointers
Replies: 42
Views: 9152

Re: Quasi-pointers

Featherfinder, drop dogs are in every continental breed. There have been more than a few Pointer/Setter breedings in the past. Some “accidental”, some on purpose. The shortcoatted ones got registered as Pointers and the shaggy ones registered as Setters. Within the short tail dogs you can find lines...
by bustingcover
Wed May 30, 2018 10:14 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: quail question
Replies: 22
Views: 5939

Re: quail question

They are trash. stick with the bobs and the chukar. Also understand the chukar, like phez, need a decent amount of room when growing to keep the fighting down.
by bustingcover
Wed May 30, 2018 10:06 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Quasi-pointers
Replies: 42
Views: 9152

Re: Quasi-pointers

There are plenty dogs in the versatile-dog category that are not high powered field trial dogs. The number of people that take these dogs to compete in horseback trials is very small. Most of them are used in foot hunting,waterfowl, or mountain biking companion scenarios. Also AA gets thrown around ...
by bustingcover
Tue May 22, 2018 10:00 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training with pigeons
Replies: 17
Views: 5383

Re: Training with pigeons

And this is a Pro? Wow. I’ve never in my life heard something like that from a Pro trainer. I’d hate to hear how much he’s charging people to afford those chukar.
by bustingcover
Thu May 17, 2018 9:48 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Setter Steadying
Replies: 18
Views: 4642

Re: Setter Steadying

Just pigeons. Get him on a platform or barrel and have him wishing while tossing pigeons. Then have him woahing on the ground. Then get him doing it reliably with distance. On the ground you can toss your hat, pigeons, etc to distract him. Also I’d recommend calling the trainer you want to work with...
by bustingcover
Thu May 17, 2018 9:34 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Setter Steadying
Replies: 18
Views: 4642

Re: Setter Steadying

Are you looking for suggestions on a trainer? 3 years old is not too old your dog is just now finishing its derby year and ready to be broke out. As long as there aren’t any terrible habits to undo I think you’ll be very happy with where your dog is by th end of the summer if left with a trainer. Th...
by bustingcover
Tue May 15, 2018 3:52 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Stud Dog Question
Replies: 73
Views: 20462

Re: Stud Dog Question

Get some titles on the dog then worry about studding it out. There are way too many good titled males out there in every color. Nobody serious is going to want to take the time and money to breed to your dog just because it’s black. Plenty of time to campaign the dog then worry about how much money ...
by bustingcover
Thu May 03, 2018 5:44 am
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: Where to buy a used O/U in Eastern WA?
Replies: 7
Views: 7635

Re: Where to buy a used O/U in Eastern WA?

Have you checked the shotgun classifieds over on the Northwest Firearms board?
by bustingcover
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Why Purina Pro Plan?
Replies: 53
Views: 41898

Re: Why Purina Pro Plan?

It’s consistent and they support sporting dogs
by bustingcover
Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:33 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: cost of a pup
Replies: 121
Views: 41452

Re: cost of a pup

I refuse to risk the life of my females to sell somebody a $400 puppy. It just makes no sense. As far as the "cost of a puppy" topic goes this is one of the biggest reasons the price is high. Its not just you I've heard it from others and its something I just never understood. If I was ever afraid ...
by bustingcover
Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:21 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: cost of a pup
Replies: 121
Views: 41452

Re: cost of a pup

That is all very nice. A good trainer could train almost any dog to pass a senior hunt test and the dog you made reference to, would be an exception no matter what breed. The fact remains that in many years of hunting the Midwest and running hunt tests, I have seen no pointers and only a handful of...
by bustingcover
Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:28 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: cost of a pup
Replies: 121
Views: 41452

Re: cost of a pup

People are not as stupid as some people would like us to believe. There is a reason why you almost never see a pointer in a hunt test, and English setters rare..............Cj A fellow was training a young pointer and felt he had him about ready for the fall derby season, but he wanted to get him i...
by bustingcover
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:24 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: whoa training ....why is it so important?
Replies: 89
Views: 57466

Re: whoa training ....why is it so important?

woah just means stop/stay. you can use any word you want. its good for when you need a dog to stop/stay.
by bustingcover
Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: NAVHDA dogs compared to NSTRA dogs
Replies: 19
Views: 8801

Re: NAVHDA dogs compared to NSTRA dogs

polmaise wrote:Yea, so why would any one want to compare .
Hunting season is over in most of the country. People are bored.
by bustingcover
Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: NAVHDA dogs compared to NSTRA dogs
Replies: 19
Views: 8801

Re: NAVHDA dogs compared to NSTRA dogs

Comparing the dogs or the organizations? The dogs are all pointing dogs for both organizations but NAVHDA and NSTRA are completely different and each have dogs of different levels of talent and ability. Not necessarily a different level, just different purpose. Much like a horse that pulls more or ...