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mrelite

The terrain differences and type of birds is like comparing apples and oranges. I have a GPS collar on the dog and when he goes on point my handheld will tell me, I can also see the direction he is running and how far he is at all times so there isn't any issue about calling him off point. As soon a...

mrelite

One time I was super lucky to snap a picture of Trapper looking for birds..............

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mrelite

Using Tone or vibration electronically communication sounds good from the marketing scenario used " The whole premise of me using the vibrate and tone is to give him silent commands to heel, come back around or stop what he is doing and find me when he is out of sight or when birds are close by and...

mrelite

Great dog! By not having homing pigeons an assistant or a place to shoot that isn't an hour or more away I would have to figure out a little different procedure. What I do have is a decent field that often has wild quail and dove in it so I do get to work him on wild birds year round but it isn't a ...

mrelite

What is the transition trainings to the dog behaving to the learned trainings of tone and vibrate when they are no longer on the dog ? Or is this a forevermore. I am not totally sure what you mean by "forevermore" but the dog has a good base of verbal and whistle commands so I can hunt him no probl...

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Beautiful dog and nice job pursuing your training goals. Couple of thoughts. I use the tone for silent recall. If I just want the dog to tighten up or change direction, I continue walking in the direction I want to hunt and let the dog swing to the front and keep going. If instead I want the dog to...

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I conditioned mine to here with vibrate but only use it if he blows me off. The vibrate function puts more pressure on a dog then stim. People think they're being kinder by using vibrate instead but it's the opposite. However it's justified if the dog isn't responding to recall. There's no wiggle r...

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Looking good!
What was the general training procedure to steady him up?

mrelite

So I have been working on a heel command using the tone on the collar and a here command using the vibrate. I am finally starting to see some constant results so I took a couple videos to show the progress, I forgot to show me hitting the tone button for the heel command but I hit it one time right ...

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[quote]Early development is how I have done it. Taking the puppies into cover when they are small enough that they are not comfortable being on their own for too long and then they naturally will be looking for me. My GWPs have strong natural tracking skills and have quickly learned to loop and cut ...

mrelite

I can often get this dog to hunt 50 to a 100 yds but if the birds aren't there his area continues to get bigger and bigger which is what is needed out here, if I were to keep him in that range I would have to constantly be handling him and that goes against what this EP was bred for. An example woul...

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I have also been using the e-collar for recall on my 2 year male old EP, I use the tone for the dog to come all they way back to me and heel, and I use the vibrate to get the dog to turn or at least look for me when I change directions and both of these work pretty darn good.....but, I seem to need ...

mrelite

I want to thank everyone for the replies, you all put out some great info to reflect on and it is much appreciated!

mrelite

I am curious as to how other dogs physically feel after a couple days of hunting. My EP pup started this hunting season 3 months ago as a one year old and now he is 15 mths of age, I know he is young and I have tried to be easy on him but he has no intention of taking it easy, He averages 8 to 11 mp...

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Hard to know if less experienced folks who might read these threads gain any insights from them or not. I am a first year pointer owner and I dissect these posts the best I can, generally I get what most post and feel some of it is extremely pertinent to what is happening in my current events, ever...

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Here is another pic that didn't get attached to the last post

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We finally found an area that had a bunch of birds, lots of open country and a perfect amount of thick cover, I let him do his thing in the open and when we went through the thick areas (which were not huge) I worked on turning him close with the beeper and saying "stay close" at times I would not u...

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After looking into this it sure looks like you need an onXmap chip to use it with your GPS, since you have a subscription you should call onX and see if they will sell you a chip at a discount, it's worth a try! Although if you always carry your phone with you then just use the phone separately from...

mrelite

It really is a fine line between letting him work and loosing control, I will work on reading the situation quicker and the timing of commands (no nagging) and I'll try not get to frustrated if I miss the mark or if he gets away from me once in awhile. I also think that I need to do the heavy cover ...

mrelite

My on x chip works in the Astro 430 and from what I understand the 320 can take an on x map chip as well, just open the slot behind the batteries and stick it in and your ready to go.

mrelite

Wow great stuff, I appreciate all the comments, info and suggestions! No worries on highjacking although it doesn't promote good discussion if one gets offended. Much of the training we have done has been in open country where he can see me and I can see him, when he gets to the edge of where I want...

mrelite

How the heck do you work heavy cover with a big running dog? it just seems so inefficient, unproductive and out of control, LOL spoken from a complete novice! I am just learning to hunt with my dog, it's my first season and his, often when we go out it is in heavy cover and not flat so as soon as he...

mrelite

I got Trapper when he was 15 weeks and now he is a year old

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mrelite

I think the issue would be that when you say sit it often gets followed up with a whoa and that would be the conflict, the only way to work it would be to teach sit followed with stay and not ever use whoa after saying sit. LOL if that makes any sense. I have yet to teach sit and my boy is 1 year ol...

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I have a 1 year old male EP and he is a great dog with his obedience in the house and out in the field (not exaggerating) BUT when other dogs come over to the house or if I take him somewhere and there is a dog around that he might get to play with his excitement level is so high that there is no co...

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So I got my Astro 430 and went to Kansas for the opener, the Astro worked great with the WIHA map and gave me piece of mind when I couldn't see the dog which was often, I was very happy with the purchase. I have to give Garmin a huge shout out!! The 3rd morning I lost the handheld in some CRP and se...

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Good video, my last lab passed away in my arms and oh boy was that tough, it took me 5 years before I got another, in hindsight I should have got another one much sooner I didn't realize how much I missed and needed the companionship until I got my new pup.

mrelite

Sounds like a pretty good 2 hour outing and it's awesome that your grandson was with you. I have one getting delivered today so I have a week to figure it out and I am off to Kansas for the opener. Anyone download the Kansas WIHA map to their Astro? I had it on my phone last year but there was times...

mrelite

That's great to hear! I need the Astro for my almost one year old EP and his first season coming up, every time we go out in thick cover and lots of arroyo's I worry about losing him.

mrelite

Thanks Pedro I found out that the onX maps do work in the Astro and I also spoke to someone at Garmin and they said that the Astro GPS can be used just like my Oregon 600T, it's basically the same system, I hope the Garmin guy is correct because I'll be selling the Oregon GPS! I still would like to ...

mrelite

Does anyone know if the Astro 430 can be used as a stand alone GPS unit for when you are big game hunting? Also does anyone know if the OnX hunt maps chip work in the Astro 430?

My thought was to get rid of my Oregon 600T GPS to help fund the Astro 430 and collar

mrelite

Thanks for all the replies, I really do appreciate them. It's been awhile since the original post was posted but Trapper is nine months old now and is turning into one of the best dogs I have had so things are good. I went back and started from scratch with the yard work until he was able to heel in...

mrelite

Wow my posts showed up, Awesome!! it wasn't other peoples posts it was my posts that were not showing up.

Ill be back and catch up

mrelite

just checking to see if my post will actually post, for a month and a half nothing has posted

mrelite

Thanks for the replies, I had posted this a while back (April 24th) and I guess since I was new to the forum it didn't post for a long while :?: Since then I have just been trying to teach him to heel in the yard and have not taken him for any " neighborhood walks" only every day trips to the mesa's...

mrelite

This is a great thread, I have an EP that is now almost 6 months old, my first pointer and hopefully my first trained dog. I have been doing Whoa and Here with him since I got him at 15 weeks of age, in the yard both commands work well, out in the field the Whoa command is stopping him almost every ...

mrelite

So I have a male English Pointer that is almost 6 months old, I got him a little late when he was almost 4 months of age, for the two months I have had him he has had a lot of field time on a 20' and 50' cord, he has learned where the birds are and is a bird crazy, bird searching machine. I have don...

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JP from NM, a couple years ago I became semi retired and started going bird hunting again after many years of not having enough time, I am an avid Bow Hunter and big game has been my go to for any free time I have had although I have bow hunted quail through the years and had a blast doing it. Almos...

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