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by birddogger2
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Legislation & Hunting Rights
Topic: Bill in Maryland
Replies: 7
Views: 324

Re: Bill in Maryland

averageguy - I WAS addressing the original post. There was no diatribe. My second post was, I thought, more of an explanation. When someone or some group wants to pass a law that restricts YOUR rights...it is my opinion that the BEST way to bring that to a halt is to immediately propose companion le...
by birddogger2
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:15 am
Forum: Legislation & Hunting Rights
Topic: Bill in Maryland
Replies: 7
Views: 324

Re: Bill in Maryland

Ray G, Wow that is some really ugly and wildly speculative bias you have against Law Enforcement there. You should consider getting some help with that. The Sportsman Alliance does an excellent job of keeping members informed of the never ceasing 24/7 attacks on our Sport, including our dogs. My pu...
by birddogger2
Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: Legislation & Hunting Rights
Topic: Bill in Maryland
Replies: 7
Views: 324

Re: Bill in Maryland

Perhaps someone in MD should offer an amendment to that bill. My suggestion, for the sake of safety, would be to require that all law enforcement officers be required to store their duty weapon at the station house. I could be wrong, but I have the sense that far more gun violence is perpetrated by ...
by birddogger2
Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:44 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Tail Set
Replies: 9
Views: 448

Re: Tail Set

Polmaise - I recognize that Brittanys and pointers have very different conformation and very different gaits. With pointers, a tail set that is too high out of the dog's back can and does influence the dog's gait, and usually not in a good way. I have seen it and seen the result in the diminished ab...
by birddogger2
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Tail Set
Replies: 9
Views: 448

Re: Tail Set

Your little guy is nice and square of body which is something folks look for in a Brittany. That was something my BIL was very concerned with and he was a pretty serious Brittany breeder at one time. There is tail set and there is tail carriage. Tail set is where the tail comes out of the back end, ...
by birddogger2
Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:39 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Should i let me Brittany actually play with and catch a live bird
Replies: 9
Views: 299

Re: Should i let me Brittany actually play with and catch a live bird

Iherbert - A 10 wk. old puppy mauling a clipwing or wing locked pigeon, or killing a quail is not a huge deal, one way or another. I would however caution against doing it for no particular reason and I would also caution against doing it repeatedly...reason or not. If the youngster seems to lack dr...
by birddogger2
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Steady then not
Replies: 41
Views: 883

Re: Steady then not

Another thought on the dog breaking... If you have a remote release trap, you could pop a second bird if and when the dog makes a move at the flush or shot, and then hit the stim. If you do not have a remote release trap, you can toss a pigeon from where the dog cannot see and then do the correction...
by birddogger2
Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:03 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Stop It !
Replies: 11
Views: 831

Re: Stop It !

Interesting Robert. I was invited to speak at a Southern Arizona Quail Forever meeting on dog training recently. What an honor! The president provided a complimentary intro then said, "If you put 10 dog trainers in a room, there is little they will agree upon". Hmm....? Might be true! So, rather th...
by birddogger2
Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:47 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Stop It !
Replies: 11
Views: 831

Re: Stop It !

Polmaise- I think you may have just uncovered the root of the problems that I have with dogs. It does not take me an hour to coordinate a whistle and hand signal, but then I only have three degrees... and never lectured. My wife and some friends and family might well disagree with that last statemen...
by birddogger2
Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:04 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Steady to flush- question
Replies: 35
Views: 1285

Re: Steady to flush- question

Joe - YOU said your dog was green broke and standing its birds. That means the dog was trained to stand. YOU were told by several experienced trainers that a dog at that stage of training should not be allowed to continue to chase. YOU did not listen to that advice. YOU let the dog regress. YOU mess...
by birddogger2
Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:50 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Steady to flush- question
Replies: 35
Views: 1285

Re: Steady to flush- question

Joe - You obviously did not listen to the sound advice you were given previously by several posters. You are now reaping the rewards of ignoring much of that advice. Keep it up and your dog will soon be completely untrained. You are almost there. Congratulations. Sorry for being blunt, but it annoys...
by birddogger2
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:34 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Any tips to stop dog from counter?
Replies: 22
Views: 886

Re: Any tips to stop dog from counter?

Robert/Polmaise - cJ and have had and (quite probably) will continue to have differences of opinions on things. BUT... I absolutely could not agree with him more on his assessment of your post. Awesome stuff. Very insightful and well presented. I thank you sir, for your dissertation. My only wish, a...
by birddogger2
Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:39 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Normal for tracking collar? Pro 550 plus
Replies: 8
Views: 451

Re: Normal for tracking collar? Pro 550 plus

Joe- That does not sound right. I would contact Garmin ASAP and talk to their tech support folks. They have been pretty good to deal with in my limited contacts with them. FWIW...I had a 320 that didn't work right from the get go and I kinda let it sit because it was my "spare". Now it is unrepairab...
by birddogger2
Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 138
Views: 25703

Re: EP sire question

It would seem that with all the science, information, breeding expertise, better care and health tests ,we would be breeding better dogs now than twelve years ago. Especially on the average. Not sure that we are......Cj cJ - I can only respond to that statement regarding pointers, and to a lesser e...
by birddogger2
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:45 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 138
Views: 25703

Re: EP sire question

12 year old post. Most of them dogs are long were old then and are long gone now, or live in somebody's memory......Cj FWIW - A fair number of the dogs mentioned on previous posts have been collected and are still being bred, albeit very selectively. Also, the real reason to have these dogs in your...
by birddogger2
Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 138
Views: 25703

Re: EP sire question

What were the pros and cons with Funseekers Rebel? Depending on the person responding and what they are looking for in a dog: The pros are that Funseeker's Rebel had a whole lot of A Rambling Rebel in his pedigree. The cons are that Funseeker's Rebel had a whole lot of A Rambling Rebel in his pedig...
by birddogger2
Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Training frequency question for green broke pointing dogs
Replies: 8
Views: 711

Re: Training frequency question for green broke pointing dogs

Hello, I have a question regarding training frequency. Aside from conditioning with roading, summer camps on wild birds, etc., how often per week do you train your young green broke pointing dogs? ..... I am currently retired. When I was working I trained my dogs daily, in fact twice a day...weathe...
by birddogger2
Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Steady? How much, if any, movement is tolerable?
Replies: 18
Views: 972

Re: Steady? How much, if any, movement is tolerable?

Good grief Shags...tell me you're joking!?!?! "ANYTIME a bracemate stops your dog has to back." What a pile of hooey!!! This is a reflection of the host club not getting a qualified judge. The trial host should have been properly/courteously informed for future considerations. Featherfinder - Unfor...
by birddogger2
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Hunting Partner
Replies: 7
Views: 481

Re: Hunting Partner

walk- Been there. I started walking with my son and one of the dogs when he was 8. When he got tired, I would put him on my shoulders and walk some more. He allowed how it was pretty nice to be 8 feet tall. By the time he was 14 he was running track and could bury the "old man". I was, and still am ...
by birddogger2
Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training / hunting question - missed shots
Replies: 16
Views: 864

Re: Training / hunting question - missed shots

Easiest solution is to train her to come when called. Always. Then you can easily call her off a bird. The danger in doing what you are is that the dog may associate the nick of the collar with the bird and begin blinking birds. Only after the dog knows commands in the YARD should they be reinforce...
by birddogger2
Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??
Replies: 39
Views: 1644

Re: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??

Robert - To answer your question( sort of), about the dog passing up on birds, I will say this in addition to what Shags said: The exact location of the birds on course is not known. It is common in planted bird trials to replace birds in the general area where they were originally "salted in", but ...
by birddogger2
Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??
Replies: 39
Views: 1644

Re: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??

Robert - One of the things I look for in a dog is an unquenchable, insatiable, burning desire to find birds. A desire that will drive a dog to do whatever it takes, including to run itself into the ground in search of game. There are dogs that, If you cut their legs off at the first joint, would gla...
by birddogger2
Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: A Toast to Max
Replies: 7
Views: 636

Re: A Toast to Max

Max2 - Seems to me that you have a pretty vivid recollection of that last hunt, and I'll bet... a whole bunch more. Memories of our dogs doing what the did... are their ultimate gift to us. Those memories are ours...forever. I can remember , a clearly as if it were yesterday, a point, a retrieve, or...
by birddogger2
Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:59 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??
Replies: 39
Views: 1644

Re: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??

Guys - On thing that HAS to be remembered is that a field trial is both a formal contest and a show...with written rules that must be adhered to and both written and unwritten standards of performance that are pursued by the participants and judged by independent arbiters. The handler has a fixed am...
by birddogger2
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:20 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??
Replies: 39
Views: 1644

Re: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??

Don't worry, with experience the dog will differentiate voices and learn to ignore the other guy. In the meantime, it helps if you separate yourself and your dog from Mr. Loudmouth as much as the course allows. IME most judges understand and don't demand that you guys hold hands and walk the yellow...
by birddogger2
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training / hunting question - missed shots
Replies: 16
Views: 864

Re: Training / hunting question - missed shots

work - I am on board with everyone else regarding steady to wing and shot and fall. HOWEVER, your dog is still a baby in many respects, and still very much a work in progress. Tread lightly and go gently. Patience, persistence and insistence with a gentle, but firm hand. What you did with the dog in...
by birddogger2
Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??
Replies: 39
Views: 1644

Re: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??

Bill and Robert - I want to relate something that might shed some light on the subject. I tproves that on occasion, things actually work out like they are supposed to and according to plan. One of the principal reasons to sing to a dog is so that the dog knows where the handler is and does not have ...
by birddogger2
Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??
Replies: 39
Views: 1644

Re: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??

Robert - Not kidding here. Yes it is a game and yes it can be pretty phony sometimes, but a bird dog is a bird dog and the best of them will, like the proverbial cream...rise to the top. I have to say that a dog that is raised and trained on throw down birds will have an epiphany when confronted wit...
by birddogger2
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??
Replies: 39
Views: 1644

Re: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??

Does the game that is being hunted over there have ears ? Actually, in some cases the answer is"not really". Many trials, especially in populated areas, these days are conducted on game farm raised birds which are typically thrown into cover, more or less along the "line of march" of the trial. The...
by birddogger2
Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Deer chasing
Replies: 19
Views: 903

Re: Deer chasing

So I have a Garmin 550 - do I use the highest lightning strike available to me? Thanks! Given the circumstances, I would not go immediately to the highest setting. You want to startle and frighten the dog...not turn it inside out. I actually prefer to use the e-collar for trashbreaking BEFORE the d...
by birddogger2
Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:53 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??
Replies: 39
Views: 1644

Re: Whats with the hooping and hollaring in field trials??

bamanicksbd - It kinda depends on what kind of trial. I suspect you witnessed a local, amateur, American Field trial., probably horseback. They do tend to get a bit "boisterous". I think a fair number of handlers carry on because they think they are supposed to. Some few, I am sure, carry on in the ...
by birddogger2
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:47 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Update on training
Replies: 3
Views: 331

Re: Update on training

Did you mess up by letting her catch a bird? Of course you did. Is it the end of the earth?? NOPE. Folks with dogs with lower prey drive let their dogs catch birds all the time to fire them up. But then they have to do more work to get them steady. Sounds like low prey drive is NOT something you hav...
by birddogger2
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:30 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Brittany outside in doghouse
Replies: 11
Views: 749

Re: Brittany outside in doghouse

Novice - Keep in mind that your new dog will generate some of heat all on his own. If the house is sized correctly and buttoned up, I would say the dog should be fine during the day, especially if there is nest making materials, like long leaf hay, inside. The smaller the cubic footage that the dog ...
by birddogger2
Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trekmoor/Bill/Wullie
Replies: 12
Views: 785

Re: Trekmoor/Bill/Wullie

Polmaise - This is troubling news indeed, but it was kind and thoughtful of you to let us know. I thank you for thinking of us. Good friends are a treasure. Know that there are folks on this side of the pond who count you both as such. Please know that you both will be in my prayers this holiday sea...
by birddogger2
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Deer chasing
Replies: 19
Views: 903

Re: Deer chasing

That is a big YUP and another big YUP on each of the first two posts.

Git 'er done...do not wait.

RayG
by birddogger2
Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Concern over gait
Replies: 20
Views: 1011

Re: Concern over gait

Stock- Where are you located? There might be a good pro field trial trainer in your area or a veterinarian that routinely sees performance dogs, or both. Sounds to me like you need an experienced set of eyes to look at your dog. FWIW there are not all that many vets who have a lot of experience with...
by birddogger2
Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:42 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Is a training table important?
Replies: 6
Views: 519

Re: Is a training table important?

Joe - I typically only use a training table to style up, steady up and eventually proof a dog on point. I do not want the dog to move at all. It is about standing still and not moving so much as a toenail. As such, I don't typically tether the dog. I will have a lead or a pigging string(cheapo versi...
by birddogger2
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Recall tips
Replies: 7
Views: 638

Re: Recall tips

Joe - One of the quickest ways I know to instill a solid recall is what I do with a 10-12 week old puppy. My wife and I sit opposite each other with a bag of tiny puppy treats. Pup is in between us. Each of us has a long, thin checkcord attached to the pup's collar. It helps if the pup is hungry. I ...
by birddogger2
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Is a training table important?
Replies: 6
Views: 519

Re: Is a training table important?

An elevated training table does three things: First it gets the dog off the ground, which tends to make them a little uncomfortable and more disposed to pay attention to you. Second it eliminates the need for you to constantly bend down to work with the dog. Third it puts you at eye level with the d...
by birddogger2
Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Tri-Tronic Sport Basic G3 - Replacement Recommendations
Replies: 4
Views: 353

Re: Tri-Tronic Sport Basic G3 - Replacement Recommendations

+1 on getting the old unit checked out and repaired. Collar Clinic might be able to help you there. FWIW i have a Tritronics Flyway Special that predates the G3 by about 10 years or more. It is still my go to unit. I did pick up a Dogtra (I think??) model 1825. Anyway it has vibrate and beep funcion...
by birddogger2
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:08 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Steady? How much, if any, movement is tolerable?
Replies: 18
Views: 972

Re: Steady? How much, if any, movement is tolerable?

As others have said, there are various interpretations. In general, the more movement at the flush, the more likely it will be considered negatively. You are absolutely correct that a dog that is anticipating a retrieve will want to mark the fall. If it means turning its head or swapping ends, it is...
by birddogger2
Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:02 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: English Setter vs Brittany- better house dog?
Replies: 19
Views: 1226

Re: English Setter vs Brittany- better house dog?

As far as dispositions are concerned, I would say that "AS A BREED", field bred setters tend to be a little more mellow with people than field bred Brittanys. Most of the Brittanys I have known came toward me with the following attitude: "OK, I'm here...so where's the party??" The older setters I ha...
by birddogger2
Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:28 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Use a Muzzle During Dog Intro
Replies: 13
Views: 747

Re: Use a Muzzle During Dog Intro

So out of curiosity is it common to see this type of behavior out of dogs who have lived all of their lives in a kennel? I know they are around other dogs but if the only socialization they get is with wire between the two, then to me they really cannot socialize. The most dogs I have had at one ti...
by birddogger2
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Limber tail -> now permanent hook?
Replies: 6
Views: 610

Re: Limber tail -> now permanent hook?

If it was my dog, I'd keep him on anti-inflammatories for a while and a couple times a day GENTLY do some stroking up and GENTLY manipulating to guide the tail in the right direction. Might not do much good, but based on the fact that there has been some improvement, I would give it a try, if it was...
by birddogger2
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: Training
Topic: hunting too fast
Replies: 37
Views: 1910

Re: hunting too fast

Steve - Bill T gives an interesting scenario which may well answer your question about honesty in a definitive manner. If the dog is on top of a caged bird in open cover...you know what happened. I strongly suspect your dog is taking liberties, but I respect your desire to proceed with caution and b...
by birddogger2
Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: hunting too fast
Replies: 37
Views: 1910

Re: hunting too fast

What's wrong with self relocation if the bird is moving? Absolutely nothing...as long as the dog does not bump the bird. A skillful relocation which results in a pinned bird is a thing of beauty and the hallmark of a first rate gundog. What the OP seems to be saying is that the self relocation may ...
by birddogger2
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: hunting too fast
Replies: 37
Views: 1910

Re: hunting too fast

You need to find out if the dog is being "honest" when it is out there. That is the big question. There are lots of dogs that are dead honest when they are close in, but are blackhearted devils when out away from sight, that will bust and chase...because they can. The easiest way to find out is to p...
by birddogger2
Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:37 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Use a Muzzle During Dog Intro
Replies: 13
Views: 747

Re: Use a Muzzle During Dog Intro

GnM - If you have an aggressive dog...you have to do what you have to do to eliminate, not suppress, not control...but eliminate that aggression, especially if it can occur where there are people who may get injured. Whatever it takes to have the dog submit to you as the pack leader...is what you ha...
by birddogger2
Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Use a Muzzle During Dog Intro
Replies: 13
Views: 747

Re: Use a Muzzle During Dog Intro

GnM - I assume you want to keep both dogs in the house. If so, YOU need to be the undisputed, unquestioned pack leader. You need to knock the snot out of the aggressive dog and keep knocking the snot out of the dog, every single time the dog starts something, until it understands that aggressive beh...
by birddogger2
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Whoa Post-Neck vs Flank
Replies: 7
Views: 557

Re: Whoa Post-Neck vs Flank

In a training scenario, I can see the value of doing whoa work on the flank. It is accomplished with much lower stim levels and, I believe the dog does not have the same negative reaction to flank stim as it can have with neck stim around birds. I honestly do not know why that is so, but it sure see...