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by averageguy
Wed May 22, 2019 3:54 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Quail in a travel cage overnight?
Replies: 10
Views: 370

Re: Quail in a travel cage overnight?

I have purchased and kept quail and chukars in a similar crate for similar timeframes and used them successfully. I did not perceive keeping them in a crate for that length of time created any new issues, but my general experience has always been that if guy uses say a dozen pen raised quail there w...
by averageguy
Wed May 22, 2019 3:13 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

Sharon wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 3:12 pm
You have excellent experience , but there is a way to have a good discussion with out insulting people.
Start spreading that standard around evenly to all and things will likely improve.
by averageguy
Wed May 22, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

The standards seem to be pretty inconsistent on this board. Apparently it is ok to insult the entire population of Breeders who make use of limited registration by posting it is an automatic reason to avoid them, but when someone with good experience with a Breeder using limited registration cries B...
by averageguy
Wed May 22, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

The only thing limited registration tells you is that you need to be looking for a different breeder. An opinion based on no actual experience with any breeder using limited registration. The functional equivalent of "I have never used an ecollar, but I heard that someone ruined a dog with one once...
by averageguy
Wed May 22, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Loft Plans
Replies: 8
Views: 421

Re: Loft Plans

I built two coops using these plans, but I doubled the width on the second one and would do the same on any others I build going forward.

https://www.gundogsupply.com/-3720-.html
by averageguy
Wed May 22, 2019 11:49 am
Forum: Training
Topic: training a pointing breed to sit on command
Replies: 11
Views: 524

Re: training a pointing breed to sit on command

Novice123, I have taught all of my GWP puppies to sit because we hunt doves and then teal before the quail and pheasant seasons open during the puppy's first hunting season. I need and want my pup to sit beside me and mark and retrieve doves starting on Sept 1st and they all have. I also teach Whoa ...
by averageguy
Wed May 22, 2019 7:03 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 42
Views: 1805

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

I agree it may not work but I fail to see significant risk of creating a blinker using the approach. You are attempting to get the dog to initially voluntarily place its mouth on a bumper using zero pressure and rewarding it when it does. There is no pressure involved. I don't see how that creates r...
by averageguy
Wed May 22, 2019 6:14 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 42
Views: 1805

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

Porochi, you have gone radio silent for awhile so not sure where you are at with your dog. The trainer and dog I posted earlier in this thread are now pointing, flushing, shooting and retrieving shot birds to hand. A discussion on clicker training on another board turned up this video and I thought ...
by averageguy
Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Product Ratings & Reviews
Topic: Pro 550+
Replies: 9
Views: 574

Re: Pro 550+

I don't want to walk around looking at the screen. Just a low buzz. If they can make it show a stop sign, they can make it buzz. I switched from an Alpha to a 550+ when it came out and find it to be an excellent tool for training and keeping track of my dog while hunting. I just stepped out on the ...
by averageguy
Tue May 21, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting
Replies: 25
Views: 1054

Re: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting

AG, It's nice that you share your experience and expertise, but some of us also have our own experience and consider ourselves fairly successful trainers. For instance, I've seen a couple of Ray G's dogs and he has done a great job with them. They are bold, stylish, and broke. My own dogs are gener...
by averageguy
Wed May 15, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting
Replies: 25
Views: 1054

Re: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting

So a bizarre chain of events leads to a release of strong flying feral pigeons which were replaced with squabs which are not even feathered out. And somehow it now becomes so critically important to use squab pigeons that cannot even fly that folks are now posting methods that no mainstream pointing...
by averageguy
Wed May 15, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting
Replies: 25
Views: 1054

Re: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting

On a pigeon pole, the bird is flushed, flies the length of the cord, and "plants" itself. Fire a blank or not, whatever you wish. The cord can be pretty long depending on your facility, my friend's was about 40 - 50 feet. The pole can be moved from field to field. You wouldn't want to do lots of po...
by averageguy
Wed May 15, 2019 4:39 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting
Replies: 25
Views: 1054

Re: A little venting about my neighbor. Not that interesting

Work, without a coop I do not see how you can productively use the young birds. They need to learn to fly and build their strength for flying. Without a coop where they can return, you have no way to fly them and get them back. Working your 9 month old pointer on young birds which cannot and do not ...
by averageguy
Tue May 07, 2019 6:24 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Rattle snakes and a pup
Replies: 17
Views: 762

Re: Rattle snakes and a pup

I took my dog through Rattlesnake avoidance training last summer in SD. The guy used a live prairie rattler with its fangs broke off and mouth sewed shut. I watched as he and his wife did both. He worked each dog on a check cord towards the snake and applied ecollar at the highest level. Started wit...
by averageguy
Mon May 06, 2019 5:55 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Rattle snakes and a pup
Replies: 17
Views: 762

Re: Rattle snakes and a pup

Rattlesnake avoidance training, done right, includes teaching the dog to avoid the scent of the snake as well as the sight and sound, so that rattling is not the only cue the dog will react to.
by averageguy
Thu May 02, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Investigating... DD, setters and griffons
Replies: 22
Views: 1337

Re: Investigating... DD, setters and griffons

Don F, reread the second paragraph of the OP.
by averageguy
Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:12 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: outside kennel arrangement for old inside dogs
Replies: 7
Views: 485

Re: outside kennel arrangement for old inside dogs

This is a photo of my current setup. There is a metal ceiling fan above to move air in the summer and I put up a windbreak of straw bales on the north and west sides in the winter. There is an electrical outlet for running a heated water bowl on the wall. My dog houses are set inside that insulated ...
by averageguy
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:48 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: UTV Roading Setups
Replies: 2
Views: 332

UTV Roading Setups

I have a full size Polaris Ranger with a receiver hitch on the front. I need to get rigged up to road my dog from the front passenger side of it. Would appreciate hearing from those who are doing the same. Commercially available frames you can point me at? Specific Roading Harnesses you use? Any pho...
by averageguy
Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:12 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: American Brittany Nervousness
Replies: 6
Views: 417

Re: American Brittany Nervousness

I went through a similar problem a number of years ago. Saw a couple warning signing when I looked at the dog but she generally looked good in her home environment. Brought the dog home and she fell apart. Kept her for a month to see if she would settle in. She didn't. Wouldn't leave my side when i...
by averageguy
Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:44 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Oral flea and tick medications?
Replies: 18
Views: 937

Re: Oral flea and tick medications?

I use Bravecto with excellent results and no problems.
by averageguy
Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Long shot, but need birds in Iowa
Replies: 10
Views: 421

Re: Long shot, but need birds in Iowa

I googled Craigslist for your area in the Farm and Garden section for Pigeons. Numerous ads for homers with the lowest shown price of $10. Also found this ad, I would give this guy a call as I expect he sells the feral pigeons he traps. https://rockford.craigslist.org/grd/d/tea-free-pigeon-removal/...
by averageguy
Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Long shot, but need birds in Iowa
Replies: 10
Views: 421

Re: Long shot, but need birds in Iowa

speng5 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:04 am
I saw that ad too but unfortunately he posted in the wrong locale. It says western IL (rockford) but the guy is actually from Sioux City, which is over 4 hours away from me. :(
He traps birds in your area.
by averageguy
Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Long shot, but need birds in Iowa
Replies: 10
Views: 421

Re: Long shot, but need birds in Iowa

I googled Craigslist for your area in the Farm and Garden section for Pigeons. Numerous ads for homers with the lowest shown price of $10. Also found this ad, I would give this guy a call as I expect he sells the feral pigeons he traps. https://rockford.craigslist.org/grd/d/tea-free-pigeon-removal/6...
by averageguy
Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Woodcock help PLEASE
Replies: 9
Views: 1032

Re: Woodcock help PLEASE

Photo is a Wilson's Snipe which is a different bird than a Woodcock. Woodcock is about double in size over the snipe. Both require moist soils where they can probe their long beaks into the soft ground for food.
by averageguy
Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: A few pictures from the past season...
Replies: 13
Views: 777

Re: A few pictures from the past season...

Nice! Beautiful photos of a great season. Thanks for sharing.
by averageguy
Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Retrieve Issues
Replies: 8
Views: 402

Re: Retrieve Issues

A couple of other suggestions are to work teaching the Hold Command. You can do it in your living room and I use treats to reward it as we work on it. No pressure involved, just set the pup in front of you, place the roller in its mouth and help it hold it initially as you say Hold. Praise the pup f...
by averageguy
Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Nick’s first field trial
Replies: 8
Views: 558

Re: Nick’s first field trial

With that positive attitude, you and your Pup are Winners already. Nice Post and Thanks for taking us along.
by averageguy
Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:07 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.
Replies: 19
Views: 738

Re: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.

Nice Post Bill T. These days Beginners have numerous excellent sources of information in the form of DVDs, Local Dog training clubs and Pro Trainers. Choosing and following a program at that stage of the Handler's development is for the best. If they can find a local, eyes on the Handler and Dog, me...
by averageguy
Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Proper use of the Check Cord
Replies: 12
Views: 674

Re: Proper use of the Check Cord

The Wonder Lead does loosen immediately and that is the beauty of it. It loosens immediately when the dog in in the correct position and it tightens when it is not. So the dog can learn how to avoid the pressure. It is a pretty handy training aid and I especially like how easy it goes on and off and...
by averageguy
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:59 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Despite my username... I'm getting a setter
Replies: 14
Views: 578

Re: Despite my username... I'm getting a setter

You both will be better for it. She is a Looker. Expect she will be beautiful on birds.
by averageguy
Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: Training
Topic: A little E-Collar Humor
Replies: 5
Views: 303

Re: A little E-Collar Humor

Yea I laughed out loud. Launching off the couch to attack the ceiling fan ...
by averageguy
Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:17 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: New Beginnings
Replies: 27
Views: 1175

Re: New Beginnings

Nice Pup. How fortunate for the both of you that things are looking up.
by averageguy
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

I find it impossible to credibly argue I should have the freedom to breed a dog which cannot pass health screenings and be trained to pass a Hunt Test (which includes an evaluation of the dogs' coat and temperament) as the bare minimum requirements. The AKC side of my Breed is a growing mess, with ...
by averageguy
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:41 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

If you produce one litter with the best of intentions, health certifications, pedigree etc. you stand a good chance of producing a "decent litter" - 100% success! If you've been breeding for 42 years, it's conceivable you've had a bad outcome or two. Getting a dog with hip dysplasia after having ge...
by averageguy
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:04 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

Sorry AG but you provided no proof other than your opinion on pet labs. Fact of the matter is the hunting genes are alive and well in the Labrador lines, American and British. Labradors are thriving as Gundogs and Pets for the warriors of the weekend world wide. Even after multiple decades of “poor...
by averageguy
Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:36 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

CJ, I posted above about a post on a GWP FB group where a white dog with an obviously horrible coat, including a naked end on its docked tail, which had never been hunted was being put forward to breed a litter. Having followed GWPs for 35 years it is not a development in the Breed that I am in favo...
by averageguy
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:28 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

FM, Denying the huge and growing segment of poor quality Labs within the pet segment of the Breed is disingenuous. I assumed you would have the ability to acknowledge it just as I see the same within the GWP breed. It is no reflection on the remaining excellent quality dogs with both breeds, but it ...
by averageguy
Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

JH or NA puppy tests will not get the Breeding Restricted lifted in GWP breeders I frequent. The value of the NA test comes in when a majority or more of a litter of pups are tested, it becomes excellent information on the inherited natural ability. Even better is when a Breeders' stock has been NA ...
by averageguy
Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

I don’t think field trials are the end all for whether a dog should be deemed eligible for breeding. In fact I’d say health is far more desirable end to breed towards. Field trial dogs can culture undesirable genes the same way conformation breeders and backyard breeders do. Hunters don’t want some...
by averageguy
Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:02 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

Averageguy wrote I find it impossible to credibly argue I should have the freedom to breed a dog which cannot pass health screenings and be trained to pass a Hunt Test (which includes an evaluation of the dogs' coat and temperament) as the bare minimum requirements. The AKC side of my Breed is a gr...
by averageguy
Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:06 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Let’s talk about registration
Replies: 60
Views: 2025

Re: Let’s talk about registration

Fear not Joe, It will likely be me who takes the heat. I bought my latest pup with Breeding Restricted registrations in NAVHDA and AKC. The restrictions are lifted if the dog passes an advanced level Hunt Test e.g. NAVHDA UT and passes health clearances for Hips and Thyroid at a minimum. Those condi...
by averageguy
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Won't hunt
Replies: 18
Views: 733

Re: Won't hunt

I would definitely like to see some exploring at that age, but either way I would continue to give the pup exposure and opportunities to come across wild game. Take the pup where there are wild birds, rabbits and squirrels to come across and see what develops is what I would do. Several times a week...
by averageguy
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training an excitable dog?
Replies: 58
Views: 1827

Re: Training an excitable dog?

Thank you, FF.

The dog's breeder does a nice job and I am a benefactor of it.
by averageguy
Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:55 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training an excitable dog?
Replies: 58
Views: 1827

Re: Training an excitable dog?

My dog pointing a wild fully educated public lands Rooster this past Sunday afternoon, after he worked the moving rooster on a point and relocate pursuit, ending with the rooster holding long enough for me to shoot some photos and be within easy gun range when he flushed. Happens that way all the ti...
by averageguy
Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:07 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training an excitable dog?
Replies: 58
Views: 1827

Re: Training an excitable dog?

Well that is quite a bit more information about the dog. On Monday you posted the dog would hold a point until you get there even at long distances. Now on Wednesday you post the dog creeps, busts and chases birds (which is normal for an untrained dog and easily solved with good training methods) Yo...
by averageguy
Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:55 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training an excitable dog?
Replies: 58
Views: 1827

Re: Training an excitable dog?

The issue of a dog's range when hunting bobwhites is mostly related to finding the coveys in the first place, not how far the quail fly. How active, focused and experienced a dog is as to where to look and using its nose/wind/ground pattern effectively, is far more important than the dog's absolute ...
by averageguy
Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:37 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Tone and vibrate commands
Replies: 20
Views: 811

Re: Tone and vibrate commands

mrelite, I am with you on the silent dog handling. This short video demos our silent recall all the way into the heel position. Had I kept walking the dog have kept hunting, but I stood still and he came all the way into heel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbpflD2i6l0 You are well on your way to m...
by averageguy
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training an excitable dog?
Replies: 58
Views: 1827

Re: Training an excitable dog?

Porochi I am not sure what your setup is or what you are willing to invest in to train you dog. Everyone needs a source of birds to train a birddog regardless of the methods they follow. I started using Feral pigeons in large size wire dog crates set on sawhorses. Using two crates I could purchase a...
by averageguy
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:04 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training an excitable dog?
Replies: 58
Views: 1827

Re: Training an excitable dog?

Porochi, If you are inclined to buy several DVDs I encourage you to do so as I learn something from each that I have purchased going back to the days of VCRs and books prior to that. I own George Hickox's Great Beginnings DVD and picked up some good thoughts from it (particularly liked his use of tr...
by averageguy
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:48 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Keeping it Versatile
Replies: 1
Views: 195

Re: Keeping it Versatile

After 5 months of ice we now have open water and were able to run a water blind to see how our training from last summer has held up over the long layoff. Went well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt1ijr5Nle0

Laying a blood track is up next.