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kiddcline

I start force FF when they are about 5-7 months, depending on if they are teething. I like to avoid any retrieving to make sure they don't hurt their teeth. Usually 6mo is prime time to start.

kiddcline

We have alot of pheasants by us in west warren but I wouldn't push them hard right now because of the breeding season. We need all the birds we can get.

kiddcline

You will find a lot of great info at www.retrievertraining.net

This site does have a lot of good info but it is usually more focused on upland dogs.

kiddcline

I have been training retrievers for a while now and love it. I have just received a phone call from someone who knows that I train gundogs on the side and wants me to train his wire hair. I've never trained a pointer and I am assuming that once past obedience it is a totally different game. Any adv...

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I have been training retrievers for a while now and love it. I have just received a phone call from someone who knows that I train gundogs on the side and wants me to train his wire hair. I've never trained a pointer and I am assuming that once past obedience it is a totally different game. Any advi...

kiddcline

http://www.petstreetmall.com/bark-collars/default.aspx

This website has some great deals.

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Tooele, which I know is still north and west, just got slammed yesterday and today with two feet. Up here in the ogden area the snow slows the dogs down way too much. I don't know alot about the weather closer to your area but tomorrow is supposed to be a nice day.

kiddcline

I agree with all of these suggestions. I'm no pro but I have just finished training 4 labs and a few had this problem as well. Sometimes it takes making a fool out of yourself to get the dog to come. Once the dog picks up th bumper turn and run. The pup will want to play and chase after you. While r...

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It all depends on the dog but it doesn't hurt to give it a try. Just make sure that the dog is friendly and happy. I just got an 8 month old that had little to no training as she is a little firecracker that has come along nicely!!

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Greg Jennings wrote:We use "annnhhhhh". It seems to work on both the kids and the dogs...

I also use something similar. It sounds like a long "at" ..... "aaaaaaat"

kiddcline

This is pretty much my basic way of doing force fetch. I always start on the table and I only do the ear pinch.

http://www.fetchpup.com/forcefetch.htm

kiddcline

It's all I use. About three cups a day, even in 20 degree weather. keeps them shiny and full of energy. I use the yellow bag. "Trainers Blend".

kiddcline

I agree with the force fetch. You have a good dog, why not make him great?

kiddcline

Keep that toe hitch on him but if you think he's got it down try moving to the next step.

kiddcline

Thanks for the info.

kiddcline

Try putting a light leather glove on, say fetch, tilt your hand to the side, and have him hold your gloved hand. If he starts to bite too hard, verbally yell "Ouch"!. That also can work. I agree with the gloved hand. This helps you judge how hard the dog is actually biting. make sure you leave your...

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I have read alot of articles and reviews on this gun because I was in the market for one. I'm sorry to say that there wasn't too much positive feedback. A few people had some things modified and they ended up as decent guns.

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I live so far out in the country where the people's dogs roam the place. I keep mine kenneled up all the time but I do worry about them being stolen from home or the back of the truck. I wish there was a tracking device instead of just the microchip.

kiddcline

www.dobbsdogs.com has some really good training material for free. Just click on the type of training you're looking for.

kiddcline

I'd go with a Stevens 311 Model E. I just sold my 311A for this one to have a longer barrell but both are built solid for the money. They are not too light or too heavy. I would go with the model E because of the checkering on the stock adds character. You can get them in 28" or 30". If you do look ...

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Perhaps someone can pm me and inform me why Wolters did more damage than good. I've read many of his books and used his techniques with 4 dogs now and the techniques seem to work quickly and effectively. I know that I'm an amateur and my opinion doesn't mean a lot to the long time trainers. So enlig...

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The Wolter's books would be at the bottom of my list. Wolter's was not a dog trainer. He was a writer that bought and trained a couple of dogs and wrote books about how he did it. There's some good information in his books but there's also a whole lot of bad information. Some people on this forum j...

kiddcline

I choose double barrel. I do not shoot an o/u but I do use an old side by side. I like giving the bird a little more chance and figure if I can't hit a bird in 2 shots then I don't deserve the bird. I also like the smooth swing of a the double. No need to add in one more action into a fast flying bi...

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Anything Richard A. Wolters. Go to amazon.com and buy used ones for under 10 bucks. Gun Dog and Water Dog use simple trainig methods and they have good pictures and easy reading. obviously there is a lot of controversy on his books but alot of trainers use some of his techniques. find out what works...

kiddcline

Good times. In contrast, I like the peppered one.

kiddcline

Nice pics. We are hitting a farm on the eighth because our season is over. Just gets me excited for the adreniline rush of a flush!!

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I hunt labs and have noticed quite a difference in the dogs we used to hunt that free roamed the neighborhood. Now I hunt labs that are always confined unless being trained or worked. There is a complete difference in how well they listen, hunt, and work. When they roam they become independent and b...

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Good looking pups. we have a breeder out by us that has some good lines, too. They are fun dogs.

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Good looking pups. Nice points.

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I wish I saw stevens up there. I know that they may not be the most popular or pretty but I have been huntig with old Stevens sxsides for 8 years and love the gun!

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65 eh? It is a balmy 35 degrees here in Northern UT. We're still dressin' in shorts!!

kiddcline

High energy, well trained lab. They never seem to get cold or run out of energy. Great nose and even better retrieves on water and land.

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Thanks. Sometimes I just enjoy making a fool out of myself!

kiddcline

Is there a search option on this forum? I was looking for a post that dealt with manual launchers being converted to remote launchers.

kiddcline

Thanks for the comment on the table. I borrowed it from a trainer here in Utah.

I just typed up a whole book of info on force-fetching but I timed out and don't have time to write it again at the moment.

I'll have to tell you another time.

kiddcline

I haven't been on here for a while but I figured I'd share some pics of my two labs in training. They have extremely soft mouths.

Koda just turned 1yr

Ceasar is 7mo

kiddcline

I inherited a marlin 30-30 from my grandpa. I had heard stories that it couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. That wasn't much of an exageration. At 50 yards it would hit the top left corner of a target and the next the bottom right. He gave me a few guns so I didn't feel bad about getting rid of th...

kiddcline

I've noticed that he limps a bit after we've played hard. I hope that it doesn't get worse. He's a really smart pup.

kiddcline

It's pretty easy. When someone wants to buy your gun you have them go to an ffl dealership. It could be a local pawn shop. They can fax or mail the paper work to you. You fill out your section and send it to the ffl dealer with the purchased gun. They run a check and then your done. I have them send...

kiddcline

Congrats!! It always feels good when they do what you've been working on for a long time. Keep it up!

kiddcline

He's doing 100 times better. He has come pretty far the past couple of weeks. Thanks for the concern.

kiddcline

I also have labs. They love to work and especially play but they do get bored fast with repetition. I've learned that once, maybe twice a day for 20 minutes a session. You have to be patient. They are east to break their spirit. Don't get to upset. End with a positive note and put them away. Never p...

kiddcline

welcome. Alot of good info on this site. Hope you enjoy it.

kiddcline

Koda- Black Lab

Cesar-Yellow Lab

kiddcline

This looks like a great deal on a CZ 12 guage.

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=72707346

kiddcline

That's one big pen! Looks good.

kiddcline

I came across a Stevens 311 12 gauge at a gunshow when I was in highschool for 350. I was able to talk him down to 300 and walked a new 1920's sxs. I liked the classy look but I didn't even know if it worked. I lucked out. It has become the only gun I use for anything. skeet, pheasants, rabbits, gro...

kiddcline

I'm the Ogden area. when is this training? Sounds like a great idea.

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I've e-mailed a few different breeders and the one that gave me a price said $2500.oo! A little steep for a broke man like me. I read some interesting articles on them. They don't burn their energy fast but they move at a steady trot all day. They do work at far distances from the handler but they j...

kiddcline

That's always a tough decision. I don't think that anyone can tell you what to do. Personally, I would put him down if I thought he was suffering in any way. I have a 14 yr old lab that has some bad hips and her sight is going. This will be her last year. If it's a family dog, talk it out with them....

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