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cjhills wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 6:37 pm
It looks like it is made in Ohio. They Don't Say what company manufactures it. Not made in Two Harbors for sure....Cj

I meet him at a trade show in Minnesota. I could not remember where he was from. My wife looked on the bag and told me Two Harbors. I'll double check.

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I deal with bulk feed ingredients for all kinds of animals and pets. I would strongly advise choosing a high quality food from a specialty dog food company. I would avoid the generic and major brands like the plague. There really is significant differences in what goes into different feeds. However...

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I deal with bulk feed ingredients for all kinds of animals and pets. I would strongly advise choosing a high quality food from a specialty dog food company. I would avoid the generic and major brands like the plague. There really is significant differences in what goes into different feeds. However ...

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You get what you pay for, not always but more so that getting more than you pay for. I know a guy who eats frozen pizza every day and he does just fine. There are so many variables when it comes to assessing health there is no way that most dog owners truly know the real health of their dogs.

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There is probably no use getting back into this discussion so I will make this short. Someone please define a well balanced raw diet? Since protein is nothing more than a word we made up that includes all of the amino acids into one word, telling someone that an animal protein in a source of better...

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If you think a dog food label assures you of complete nutrition you are naive. World class athletes don't put that level of analysis into their diets. As a former high level athlete and now coach I can assure you no one is taking nutrition that far. My biggest concern as an athlete wasn't what I was...

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As a side note, one of the reasons I like to feed raw is because there is no tax. I find it disturbing that to feed my dog dry food the government first must collect 7.125%.

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Ear infections cause a dog to smell. I also have a dog that when feed food with corn gets a nasty odor.

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Feeding raw is most certainly not more expense it is for me cheaper. Where I live I need to drive 35 miles to by decent dog food, the butcher is 1 mile away. Every Tuesday they slaughter and have lots of very affordable organs and meat. A butcher generally can't utilize most organ meats. I buy liver...

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many times the protein allergy is caused by the starch it's mixed with. starches and proteins are digestive opposites. proteins are digested first then starches. If the proteins are not fully digested when the enzymes are released to break down the starch your dogs body will try to absorb the undige...

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Two things, get a GPS or just keep calling him in. Usually running that big isn't a problem if they learn to check in.

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I am no expert on Britts, but my experience with a friends young dogs was the same as what you are seeing. His dogs both from a well respected and successful kennel were also slow to point. They are fine now. My one question is in the time the dog has been at the trainer what has he accomplished? wh...

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6.5 years.

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Guess I waited too long. I've got a female pointer with a spectacular pedigree whose breeding has proven to produce great dogs. Now that my male is aging I wanted to get ready his replacement.

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At what age do risks become more likely to happen, and what are those risks.

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http://www.rehydratetabs.com/cart/

A shortage of potassium is a huge contributor to cramps. There is an ideal combination of minerals that aid in muscle control, and re hydration. I have seen great results with rehydrate in my dogs.

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Why do so many here get offended when a discussion on diet turns scientific. Thin skins?

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Dairy products promote lactic acid build up. I would avoid dairy during times of increased activity.

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ezzy333 wrote:I've had the dogs kick them out from under the grape vines when the grapes are ripe and they love the mulberries too.

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This is proof a dog will eat what they shouldn't. I hope everyone here knows a dog should never eat grapes or raisins.

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Any possibility they are hunting over bait?

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Glossary= description of the product and doesn't comment on what people say or think. Beet pulp is the sugar beet that is dried after the sugar is taken out. Really don't care what people think but it is just that and test results show exactly why it is used and what it does. I don't know if you re...

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Here is another one: Cranberry Powder All natural source of vitamin C and potassium. May have some ability to acidify the urine, but not consistently. Some sources list it as having an ability to block bacteria from adhering to the bladder wall, thus preventing bladder infections "Some sources?" "Ma...

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Glossary= description of the product and doesn't comment on what people say or think. Beet pulp is the sugar beet that is dried after the sugar is taken out. Really don't care what people think but it is just that and test results show exactly why it is used and what it does. I don't know if you re...

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Dont forget who is publishing the glossary. They arent going to say bad things about the food. Look up chicken by-products and you will get tons of different answers from different dog food companies. The glossary doesn't say anything good or bad about the different ingredients but just says what i...

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vzkennels wrote:What's the new bags look like?

That is one good looking Short hair.

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My wife feeds their cat food, and she recently got a new bag, and the cats refuse to eat it. Last bag no problem, but they wont touch the new bag. I even caught them eating the dogs food. So I got a sample bag of different food, and fed them and they ate like they were starving. My thought was maybe...

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Curiously, what isn't included in this study is an analysis of other outside factors. If you look at the curve for the increase in reported bloat occurrences, you can see that the largest rise came between the years 1975 and 1982, and since 1982 the rate of occurrences line has not been nearly as c...

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And I still haven't seen anything proving or even suggesting that bloat is the #2 cause of death in dogs. (First of all, just the phrase "#2 cause of death" is a misnomer designed to be used as a scare tactic, because canine death also includes accidents and euthanasia for a variety of reasons, and...

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Curiously, what isn't included in this study is an analysis of other outside factors. If you look at the curve for the increase in reported bloat occurrences, you can see that the largest rise came between the years 1975 and 1982, and since 1982 the rate of occurrences line has not been nearly as c...

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Actually, the study itself admitted: Bloat may be an "uncommon" disease... . It also specifically called it an epidemic. When the plague hit Europe, it didn't kill everyone, or a majority, but it was still a problem. Also note Sars didn't wipe out China, so that most likely wasn't a serious issue?

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Most importantly, when you look at this study and these figures, you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT CONCLUDE that one in every 30 Irish Setters will get bloat. That's pure fallacy. The sample of Irish Setters was taken from animals admitted to veterinary teaching hospitals, and did not account for the large numb...

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Are you trying to mislead, or do you have trouble interpreting data? The .57% was all dogs hospitalized specifically in veterinary training hospitals. That is not the rate of occurrence. Woah now, who's the one trying to mislead or misinterpreting data? The study specifically reports as follows: .....

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Are you trying to mislead, or do you have trouble interpreting data? The .57% was all dogs hospitalized specifically in veterinary training hospitals. That is not the rate of occurrence. Woah now, who's the one trying to mislead or misinterpreting data? The study specifically reports as follows: .....

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well I have been transitioning foods, so I followed the normal steps to mix a little at a time till I am able to feed high protein CORE exclusively. So im sure that helps from giving my dog diarrhea and upset stomach. So far she loves the taste and have slowly added a handful of feed into her norma...

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slistoe wrote:A synopsis of the study itself? How is that "another interesting bit"?

It is an industry professionals analysis of the study, and what he views as its key points.

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Here is an interesting bit of info on part of their ingredients: http://www.loyallpetfood.com/documents/pbpm%20sheet.pdf

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They are owned by Cargill, which is a huge corporation primarily in food related industries. They are the largest privately owned company in America. From what I have been told their US market is small, and their dog food is primarily exported. One thing I found interesting is they own ethanol plant...

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Here is another interesting bit of info on bloat: http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedi ... &O=Generic

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Here is an interesting statement written by a vet: http://www.vetcontact.com/en/art.php?a=773&t=

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The stat appears to come from a study published by a veterinary pathology department at a major university, I will spend more time on it, and then you can deny that too. I did find one study from a major University where they itemized sudden death causes over a 10 year period in the Pathology depar...

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Without looking back through everything, someone on here also stated that the study showed no genetic influence on the risk of bloat - ergo it must be solely the effect of changing dietary practice. Interestingly they make this recommendation following the study "In order to decrease the incidence ...

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Now I'm not sure as to the validity of it being the #2 killer, but it is mostly considered common knowledge, and is even cited in a recent issue of Gun Dog Magazine. Cancer is #1. You sure throw it around a lot for being unsure. Unfortunately journalistic integrity is all but dead these days and th...

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Let me ask you one question brdhntr, why are you so adamant about making bloat an epidemic and the No. 2 killer when most people have never seen it and probably most have never heard of it? Seroius, yes, epidemic, no, and No.2, I have no idea since I have never seen any study done about what kills ...

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Thanks for posting that. It pretty well shoots down the epidemic theory when the occurance rate skyrocketed to a whopping .57%. Thats one dog out of 200 and that they think is higher than it would be if they had more dogs in the study and even then it was just a few breeds that are affected. And it...

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Another quote from the study: "There were a total of 1920 dogs without a prior history of GDV that participated in our study. The breakdown of dogs by breed is shown in the table below. These 1920 dogs contributed a total of 3357.6 dog-years of follow-up information (following one dog for one year =...

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You can dismiss bloat as being relevant enough to make a consideration for, but you can not deny it's increased potential in dogs fed a certain way. I can not only deny it but will challenge you to show us some proof. Bloat is a rare but serious problem with some breeds but what they are fed is not...

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I was at a seminar with a well known and very successful pro field trialer/trainer at about the time that this anti-corn sentiment was starting. He was asked for his opinion about what kinds of food were good. He replied that he had no specific recommendations about a particular brand, but he most ...

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What works for you?

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Let me help you with some facts, corn is bad for several reasons: 1) It is composed of sugars (starch is composed of sugars)that are hard on the pancreas to digest, and 2) The digestion of starches and proteins are chemically opposed making complete digestion of both impossible especially in the sh...

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I would suggest you read a few good nutrition books such as Feed and Feeding which is pretty old now but there are many newer ones. They will explain one of the virtues of corn is the easy digestibility plus its ready availability makes it the carb source of choice throughout the world. Rice is als...

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