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This will probably sound like a blast from the ancient past but I've always told customers that the best pre-training study is to read Robert Wehle's book "Wing and Shot."

Just took the time to follow this thread from start to finish. Thanks for letting us follow the story.
Great read and very uplifting in these the darkest days of winter.

I've always told our customers that their bird dogs should all look like Donovan Bailey. . All muscle very little fat.

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Just got word from my partner in crime that our "Boy" Kendal Hills Dawson Creek got his 30th shooting dog win in PA today.
Fingers crossed more to come.

Beautiful dog. Nice photo but you should photoshop the check chord out of it and claim he's broke. (LOL)

Welcome.
Lots of talented folk here always willing to help.

First let me say that I have generally worked with pointing dogs but have some experience with cockers and springers. He's not shy of game after the first go round so I wouldn't be overly concerned with his "puppy" behaviour with the first one. Prey drive is extremely important with any breed but ge...

Except for the colour he could be an "English" setter.
Where did he come from? I want one.

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Welcome to the "gang".
Look forward to reading your posts as you and your buddy progress.

Welcome.

In terms of training a bird dog the best ever written is "Wing and Shot ' by Robert Wehle.
As far as the spousal issue the most important is don't teach sit. Use whoa instead. "Stand up and stand still."
Just my humble opinion.

When you get the pup back to you (with the check chord) take the dummy in your hand and push it further into his mouth. This will cause him to open his mouth. Take the dummy quickly and then make the big "Good Doggy" fuss over him.

You're right about the pumpernickel. My sincere apologies.

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Chukar or Quail en Casserole Chukar or Quail breasts flour butter poultry seasoning salt and pepper white wine or cooking sherry pinch of cinnamon mushrooms, sliced rinse quail breasts in water or dip in milk if you prefer dredge each piece in flour to coat melt butter in frying pan and quickly brow...

SAUTEED GROUSE WITH APPLES CREAM & CALVADOS 4 boneless skinless grouse breasts salt & pepper ¼ cup butter 2 spy apples (or other tart crisp apples) peeled & sliced 1tsp chopped fresh thyme ½ cup dry white wine ½ cup whipping cream 2 tbsp calvados (or brandy) Season birds with salt & pepper Heat 2 tb...

IDHunter There are dogs that in spite of how hard we try as breeders, just do not have a lot of point. Some dogs just like to chase. Dogs that chase car can't do much with one if they catch it. Some will spend there whole life trying. Usually they eventually get ran over. The problem with the "chas...

My Condolences.
Been there many times. Chin up and remember when.

Brought tears to my eyes,
Lovely thoughts.
As we move along more and more of our life revolves around memories vs. actions.

I wrote this in memory of all the good bird dogs I've owned, bred, and judged over the last 55 years. "bleep" Old Dog When that chilly old blue norther tears the colours from the trees And the flight birds get the urge to up and leave It’s then I’d get the boots oiled and shoulder up the gun It’s th...

After much discussion and considerations, the Pennsylvania Grouse Trial Clubs have come to the conclusion that the Spring trials would be withdrawn from the schedules. These include the following: The Nittany Grouse Trial Club The Pa Grouse Trial Club The Venango Grouse Trial Club The Pa Amateur Gro...

The error I've seen most often is continuing to move hurriedly to the front when the course takes you into or near a cut and continuing to move puts the dogs behind you.
Stand still and let em hunt the cover.

If you go to this site https://members4.boardhost.com/coverdog ... 1612614779 there's a litter advertised that sounds like what you're looking for.
The pups are in MI.

One more thought. When ever I sell a pup to a "newbe" I always suggest they get a copy of Wing and Shot by Robert Wehle the founder of Elhew Kennels. It was written in the pre e-collar days and takes you from whelping box to finished dog. It's old but it's good. (Just like quite a few of the contrib...

Thanks for the great photos and the words of wisdom regarding the top side of this year of the plague.

My only suggestion would be go slow and be gentle. 13 weeks is pretty young to start using an e collar.
Always work on the premis that pups have to understand what you want before you start correcting them

I generally start em on a training table. They tend to be timid on the raised platform so don't immediately jump around. Work slowly standing them and styling them up rewarding wath gentle strokes over their cape when they stand still. The finished dogs jump up and stand on their own waiting for the...

Thank you so much for your warm welcome everyone. Having spent most of my time with a shotgun rather than a mouse in my hands it will probably take a while to figure out all the in's and out's of this forum but I'll figure it out eventually.
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Hello everyone. I am 72 years old. I have been breeding English Setters for over 40 years and have produced many field trial winners as well as outstanding hunting dogs. I trained professionally for many of those years and ran a shooting preserve on our farm. My passion has always been grouse and wo...