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luke0927

i feed my quial purina game bird chow $11 for 50 lbs last time i bought thats what i was going to use..

luke0927

The sand you are talking about is fine to use. The 12-15 birds is alot for that pen. You will see more losses (bird not coming back) and more sickness for sure. The bobs can be left up for a while then slowly dropped. Read my post about starting with pigeons and you will know how to do it. Thanks s...

luke0927

so piegon breed frequently.....?im guessing i should but some nest then and if they outgrow this coop i will have to build a bigger one or get rid of some of them....4x4x6 is the size i would think 12-15 would be the max amont to keep. any thoughts on putting a cage on the outside for the to practic...

luke0927

So i converted my Johnny house to coop with bobs and and a landing platform that i can fold up to block the bobs when the birds are not out.... I do not have nest i plan on getting about 10 birds do they have to have nest or will they just sleep on the perch. It is an all wire bottom floor but i do ...

luke0927

I have basically given up on GA for wild quail...you hardely ever see hederows and people usually have just hay feilds, also people do not hunt and trap predators like they should. Im only 22 and have never got to true wild birds in GA....the only wild coveys i have seen were in the thickest clear c...

luke0927

first i would say don't give the dog birds until your done FF or its time to introduce the in the FF process under a contorted situation. Im sure more experience people would chime in but i am FF my first dog and this is what im going to do....The dog must be reliable and fetching and holding the bu...

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It also kills fleas and ticks...i spray my dogs with frontline but my kennels are around grass and trees so its good to kill as many fleas/ticks and other bugs as you can.

luke0927

I need to place my johnny house converted to a pigeon coop....i used to keep it on the edge of one of my training fields but the everytime we are at the field they want to go to it and have peak(at least when the quail were in it)....i have open places on my property to put it and wooded places i wo...

luke0927

I clean the floors with bleach and water every now and then...i scrape my floors clean. and just use seven dust up under hte keenels i have no problems but i only have 3 dogs each is on a 10x10 elavated run.

luke0927

I have been FF my first dog and i stared with my gloved hand in the dogs mouth the dog was on a table....just putting my hand in the mouth and not saying hold after got where he would hold it i went to the buck. once i started with the buck i did use the ear pinch as pressure if he dropped it pressu...

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Great post GH i don't always have helper and this will help me as well braking dogs steady....

luke0927

No complaints about my TT

luke0927

im going to make a few...i was goint o use rebar and then weld a disk or something a few inches down from the top...then slip a slightly bigger piece of pipe over the bar it will not slide over the disk then weld around the top and place a hook for a snap it will basically swivial around the rebar a...

luke0927

Same thoughts i was having thanks!

luke0927

Well with my FF progressing along nicely (did a whole session yestrday without having to use any pressure) it got me to thinking. (This is not with the dog i am FF now but was before i started) I have 2 other dogs 1 who loves to retrieve and comes to hand every time and then another pup 11 months ol...

luke0927

Made great progress yesterday....i have left the birds alone and have him strapped a the post he is starting to fetch on command with no pressure....every now and then if you praised him excitedly he would get distract and need a little reminder but im glad to see it clicking in his head!

luke0927

i guess i didn't think about the question i posted the collar would only be used if the dog did not comply with the fetch if he is standing around or not picking it up say he's distracted a quick nick should tell the dog i better pick this up and bring it back....the dog should be so focused on retu...

luke0927

Ok thanks i will leave the birds off until we are solid on the buck....and i am not using the ecollar i plan on contitioning him to that after he is rock solid on the buck, and can retrieve up and down the table.

luke0927

I would make sure that dog is bullitproof on frozen birds first...then I use a fresher bird, one thats been dead several hours before using a completely fresh bird. I like to use quail, as they taste good to the dog and they have to handle that before killing birds. I start from scratch with them h...

luke0927

Thanks for hte live bird i was going to use a wing locked bird, like you said that should probalby be the last bird to use before shooting any over him.

luke0927

OK so my FF is coming along nice...i used my fist bird yesterday it was a frozen dove i had.....(this is the dog i have had problems with chewing birds) he wanted to mouth it a first but after a couple time of saying hold and poping his jaw he was holding it nicely and giving it up on command. What ...

luke0927

I've been happy with that feeder/waterer, too. Easy to track remaining water and makes it very hard for them to waste feed. But... If when you say you're putting pigeons in a "Johnny House" you mean a loft you want them to return to, as quail would to a JH, a different form of feeding could help tr...

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Thanks also i went back and looked at some of hte pictures from others coops what the purpose of hte cage is it just extra room for them to walk out on or do you flush them into and to make catchign them easier? on my current one i would just slip in the door and grab a quail think i could do the sa...

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I would not put a platform on the inside. I had one and the birds would some how wiggle through the bobs and just come and go on there own. I got rid of the inside platform and the problem stopped. Chad so they will just fly through the bobs and up to the perches on the inside? If theres no need i ...

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so just the #410 Bullet Fount/Feeder $12.00

its the right hight for them to reach the food by sitting it on the floor?

luke0927

Ok good cause im just going to screw the platform down to the bottom 2x4 window frame there and then frame the bobs in on top of it...they would just have to just 3.5"...how far out should make the landing pad....12" maybe? then say 6" into the inside?

luke0927

Ok i have some bobs i need to set up....and have a few questions as i build this johnny house for quail but now want to use it for pigeons I have my bobs i am going to add them where the window is in the picture directly in the front...im going to leave it where it will still swing open...but i figu...

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well i had a nice feeder that quail used one that was in a pipe and they would reach in an eat...when to grab it today and squirells eat the bottom out of it...i left it in the JH wasn't much feed i just didn't think about it.....so i am going to but 10 pigeons in a 4x4x6 johnny house....is there a ...

luke0927

I probably would have just shot it out of the tree then send him the retrieve....

luke0927

i love my benelli SBE II but also have remmington and mossburg.

luke0927

I have a couple GSP what would you say is a long great life for GSP or any other pointer breed. I would like to have an EP one day. Seems like you read a lot about 10-12 whats the longest you have had a gun dog live?

luke0927

I have both i like both but for a first time trainer i found the PS/PF easier to follow becuase it had more detial and showed you how to handle certian situations....i would buy the PS/PF then shop around for a good deal on the hickox the hickox has FF that was a nice thing.

luke0927

my female is almost 11 months and she has done this since she was a couple months old...she will squat and pee when very excited.

luke0927

Can i ask why she is so sound against it?

luke0927

OK i was thinking like mail...they go out as soon as they are sent!

Thanks

luke0927

i had room in my inbox but not my sent....it was full and messages were not going out...i deleted all sent items and tried to resend the ones in my outbox but they still go to the outbox anythoughts?

luke0927

I read that the dobbs do their FF with the ear for hold and when them move to fetch they use the toe hitch...becuase its more natural for the dog reach out the foot....i have been using just the ear pinch i have him reaching our for it now.

luke0927

i cut grass with the belly mower on a ford 3600 tractor....i don't worry about the lawn!

luke0927

Ok so i did all of todays session from the pulley and not the poll. when i would do pressure he would want to turn to me...i would still hold pressure on the ear and use my fingers on the collar to push his body back in on the table...he is picking it but he still wants to turn to me i can see it wi...

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i paid $3.50 here in GA from M and M quail they run a very large farm.

luke0927

Don't let him do that Luke. Just make him sit or stand there, without moving, and take the buck. When they look at you, or try to bury their nose your shirt, it's a form of mild refusal. Hold the buck in front of him, at the center of the table, pinch his ear, and command fetch. He'll stop turning ...

luke0927

No i am right handed.....if your are looking at the table it looks like this l______l ^ looking this way at it i was facing the dog head on at first...but when i put him further out on the table i was facing his right side...... i stand at the end of the left side looking right at the poll with the ...

luke0927

Well i have started FF its been less than a week and i would say i am doing good....i have a 16' table i have had the dog attached to the pol on the left (that will be useful in a minute) I have only been using the command hold and he is now slightly reaching for the roller...he know when presure is...

luke0927

Thanks I'll read it...as well.

luke0927

do you like using the ear pinch or the toe hitch?

luke0927

Well i have started FF one of my dogs so far it is going really well and i don't see all the mess about people saying its an awful time for the dog etc...but i guess i will find out down the road my dogs is holding very nicely for what we have done so far...what my question was is, about how long (a...

luke0927

I have just started FF my dog...he became very hard mouthed due to bad habits i did not catch onto....whatchh the smart fetch DVDs...now i am just starting out but i really don't see it being an awful time like people say. i am using the ear pinch the dog is learning nicely and i do short sessions a...

luke0927

here in GA The animal rights groups tried to slip in a new law (AGAIN ) that would have ruined hunting with a dog....they tried to slip it into the dogfighting bill...it would have made it a felony for you dog to harm another animal i.e your dog grabs that wounded bird that is not dead......can't do...

luke0927

i use a body harness when i hook them to the 4 wheeler and run them....they actually are pulling and i didn't want the collar pushing against their throat.

luke0927

markj wrote:
i water out of a 5 gallon bucket
I use the horsey flat back 5 gal, put it on a cement block and clip the handle to the kennel, the dog needs this as a stretch excersize, Delmar recommends it and I been doing it this way for ever.

lay the block horizontal correct?

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