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oakcreek

I have a 3 week old litter out of CH erin's southern pride and My Oakcreeks Elhew Echo. The pups are well marked, and should be some classy running and pointing dogs. Echo was used in walking field trials her derby year, and has been my personal hunting dog since. IF you would like more info give me...

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Ross you are right Bad river is out of a sister brother mating, they actually re did the breeding a couple of times I believe. I don't know how the pups turned out for sure or if she even took. I believe distant shadow will probably see more use, I am thinking about using him on a Blackhawk/elhew fe...

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The right elhew blood can produce smaller dogs. Most all the females I have owned weigh right at 35#

oakcreek

Call Randy Anderson, I know he has a nice litter either on the ground by now or one coming up. He runs miller bred dogs

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I personally like Erin's southern pride a lot, I have watched him run once, and been around him a hand full of times. He looks good on point, and runs with a snappy tail. Plus he has some good breeding behind him, and he is throwing classy pups.

oakcreek

Am I the only one that has trouble calling what Miller did cheating. Most people cheat in order to win, he bred dogs to lesser stud dogs then the original papers showed and still produced champions. I don't know why he did it, he didn't have to. I guess I am more aw struck then anything. On the subj...

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If you are talking about my Rocky, thank you.

Have you had a chance to hunt behind Maddie yet?

oakcreek

How is maddie doing?

Have you had her out on a quail hunt yet

oakcreek

It was my group that killed the 81 birds, you guys are right it was all about going out and killing birds and enjoying time with people we usually only see once or twice a year. The rest of the year I rarely carry a gun, just watch the dogs work, and let others do the shooting. By the way those fiel...

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Well our big group had 40 killed by 10:30, and 81 killed by 5:30 on the opener. Went out early sunday morning and killed 9 more rounding out the number to a strong 90. The birds were plentiful, and the dog work good. It was a great weekend. Echo with a limit of roosters http://i95.photobucket.com/al...

oakcreek

They make an upland vest that has a good chest protector on the front

oakcreek

There are a few great kennels out there that have really focused on the upland ability in the lab. When I breed labs I focus strongly on upland ability. There are great upland pointing labs out there that should suit what you are looking for

oakcreek

They have a full book with all the walkin hunting areas in it. If you follow I-70 west through kansas there is a lot of WHA land and a lot of pheasants. You can find a few coveys of quail around Russel and Hays area. Feel free to give me a call I might be able to help you find some good places to go

oakcreek

I have culled my fair share of dogs, it's part of the process. I am a firm believer that not every dog produced in a litter justifies selling, they don't all make good dogs. If I was out to only produce and raise dogs that hunted, why would I do it. I want to produce the best and the best looking hu...

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I have a friend that is too quick to move dogs. If he doesn't have a buyer for a pup by the time they are 8 weeks he gives them away. If a dog has a couple bad outings, down the road. I move dogs quickly if they aren't making improvement. I don't have enough time or money to sit on a dog that MIGHT ...

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Throw some pigeons for him, make it fun again, let him creep into birds a little and flush them with a launcher. Then once he is pointing and chasing again, start over with the breaking. Teach him in the yard that a nick around the belly means to stop movement, then introduce some birds to the equat...

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They are all available. I would just make Echo's price so high no one could afford her! Thanks for the comments, I have been very pleased with how these dogs have come out of the summer training. By the way none of the dogs were styled for the picture, just shot as they stood. The shorthairs are rea...

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Went out to do some training this evening and decided to take the camera along. Stylish Elhew Phantam x Oakcreeks Sea Maiden- He is full of point and intensity http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/oakcreekfarms/IMG_5711.jpg CH Honky Tonk Gigolo x Oakcreeks Elhew Echo http://i95.photobucket.com/alb...

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I have been trying sportmans pride, it is cheaper then exceed and so far the stools have been fairly good. If you give me a call I can let you know what I think about some different foods

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Sometimes you pay more for a certain color because that what's in demand. For instance I had a black litter of lab pups that I am selling for $500, if they were chocolate they would most likely have been sold long ago for $1000. The demand for good chocolate puppies is high right now, so you price y...

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I don't understand why anyone would sell a pup for $250. If you have done your job as a breeder then you most likely have near $200 in every pup if you bred to an outside stud. Why even breed a litter? I realize that $1000 is a lot of money, but that is the least of your expenses. If that gets you i...

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That sounds like a good litter, I can pretty much guarantee you the other litter will be a nice one as well. I will be getting a pup from it to hopefully start field trialing

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I was at his place at one point. He showed us a shorthair female in a alfalfa field. The dog ran over the bird, all around the bird, and even jumped on the bird before he finally flushed it on his own, and shot it. Then said she was $2500, what a steal I thought

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Personally I believe he has already produced better field trial dogs then snakefoot, and a couple of the others you mentioned. In all actuality (and don't jump on me for this) but I don't like much of anything I have seen out of online, and really don't know how well he has produced on the big circu...

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That price is from Dressler's up by KC. Last I knew they hadn't received a price increase. I switched off of Native because I could see what was coming. It was $24 a bag in January, now it is around 27.50, and they are expecting another price increase somewhere at the end of the month or so. The exc...

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Their adult is around $23 a 40lbs bag buy 12 get the 13 free. THe performance is 26.30 for a 40lb bag same 12/13 deal. that is what was quoted me yesterday

oakcreek

High quality feed (from what I have heard) at a very reasonable price. I am getting in a few bags this well of the performance, I know the sled dog guys really like the stuff.

oakcreek

As far as bird hunting goes I don't know if it gets much better then a strong elhew fiddler cross.

oakcreek

If it is a gundog I would recommend that you but some pigeons let the dog chase them and fire a blank. Then if the dog starts pointing, let him take the bird out and chase and while in a full run shoot the bird. The CD hasn't worked very well when I have heard of people using it. It is made more for...

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He won in the NBHA a walking stake

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If it isn't posted the people get kicked off, but I don't think legal action can be taken. This law is a good one

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Of course I would own Blackhawk, and I would breed to him as well.

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Yes I do care about looks, I like well put together dogs from head to tail. If I didn't like the looks of the dog I probably wouldn't own it. There most likely are great dogs with nice conformation, so why own a dog that I don't like to look at? However, I would own a blackhawk dog. I would want the...

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He ended up winning his CH in the woods, but he did have plenty of range to run AA. Elhew dogs are hard to get into AA people's hands, but the shooting dog people are coming around seeing how most of the consistent winning is done by elhew dogs. I have talked to Swami's owner a couple of times, I th...

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Ross,
You do realize that Explorer was ran in all age stakes before getting his CH, right??????

I like the blackhawk dogs that I have seen, I don't like the heads on them, but they are bird dogs. I also like the looks of the few tri-colors that come through occasionally.

oakcreek

Native just went up a $1 a bag when shipped $30 a bag for 40lbs now. It is a good food though, my dogs had to be fed much higher then the recommended amount and I was feeding level 3 and 4 mixed

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eqsmith- If you have a sams around go get some exceed, about $24 for 44lbs. It is pretty much identical to what you are feeding

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Tony king from over in MO sometimes has some horses, you might look him up. Erin's kennels out of Ill. has some horses for sale Randy anderson from Oklahoma sometimes has horses There is a horse down the road from you that I know of, he is child broke, anyone can ride him and he does everything. He ...

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There may not be more important ingredient, but their can be better ingredients

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Just something that I see. A dog's tail will tell you everything

oakcreek

I guess i meant by products, which I believe Brewers rice is. Not for sure on that. And there is no reason to bang your head against a wall with me ezzy I agree with most everything you have written. i have never had a problem with beet pulp, and prefer some corn in my dog food

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Not that anyone asked, but I thought I would give alittle info on my feed critque (not that it means much). By the way I feed around 15 dogs including a few pups here and there I started out feeding diamond premium, good food, dogs seemed to take dumps like elephants, and I was feeding anywhere betw...

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The blue bag is 50lbs I feed a 44lb bag now

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IF you look on the back of the blue bag it says on there what they recommend it is actually a cup higher then that on the chicken formula. I did like it, but had to feed a bunch to keep them in decent condition. I think that the chicken or chicken meal dog food cleans up better then the meat meal or...

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I don't like meat meal as the main ingredient because usually you have to feed at least a cup or two more. I fed the blue bag BG and had to feed more then when I fed a chicken by product based food

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I made the switch from native to exceed. I pick it up 35 miles from my house at 23.50 for a 44lb bag. So far results have been good. Pretty much all the dogs maintained through the winter on 4 cups, pointers and labs. Minimal stool that washes off easy, good ingredients (similiar to pro-plan perform...

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To be honest I have labs that I don't feel leave anything to be desired in the upland field, and hunt better then some of the self owned hunting shorthairs in this area which I have seen. It comes down to breeding and training. Labs make very good upland dogs, they are even tempered, easy to train, ...

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Adam, if she was my dog I would breed her again. Just have them send the semen to you this time. If they will be marketable pups that you want then do the breeding.

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I find elhew dogs to be very trainable, natural, early maturing, natural retrieving, classy type of dogs. I think for a person who is novice trainer, only owns a couple or one dog, and hunts cover fields elhew pointers are the way to go. There are plenty of elhew dogs that throw run into their pups,...

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His guarantee of health at the time of transfer usually is a week long guarantee. If he lists genetic health as guaranteed for 2 years then you might have an argument. With labs most guarantee hips and eyes for 26 months, this genetic problem wouldn't be covered unless the guarantee give a full gene...

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