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BarkRidge

I am sure you can find Lester around his farm this time of year. (Or in Murray with his dogs)

I am not sure you will find him too busy. His oldest runs the farm now.

BarkRidge

The only consistently successful method for getting a dog to range bigger ....is to get another dog! In my experience you just can't get there from here. I've seen some artificially increased ranges on dogs and it isn't pretty. Your dog's natural range is your dog's natural range. It may get a litt...

BarkRidge

topher40 wrote:it harms them because feeding to "hot" of a feed can be hard on a dogs kidneys. They cant metabolize the extra protein.

Can you prove that ?????

Where are the studies to confirm that assumption ????

I am not trying to be confrontational just factual.

BarkRidge

Hello I was wondering if anbody knows anything about Lesters Snowatch or Lesters Game Winner. I have a female out of these two and was just wanting some information about them. Does Gary Lester have a website? Thanks for any info you can give. Matt Snowwatch is out of a Miller and Lancelot cross. H...

BarkRidge

Neil Mace wrote:
They all are good ways to play with our dogs.

Neil

That is the bottom line.

BarkRidge

Huh? For this to be true, you are saying there is NO relationship between the quality of a breeding and the price put on the litter! Actually, I never said that. But refer to my previous answer. If I'm looking for a dog that's an excellent grouse & woodcock hunting dog, so superior that he is capab...

BarkRidge

So what's the magic price tag that changes a pup from a high-dollar pup that's worth the asking price and the price only a fool would pay? To you, $1k is too high. It is $999? $899? What's the number? Too me buying a pup, for trialing purposes is a waste of money at any price. Do you ever take into...

BarkRidge

If you have pups out of a national champion breeding, by a dog that has not shown to produce much as of yet, and a female who is well bred, but has had 50 pups with one hour champion, those pups might be $600 pups. Then, you breed your female, who has produced 4 hour champions in only two litters, ...

BarkRidge

About Online.I didnt know if you had seen all the siblings that had come from that Powder X Wiggin's Miss Sammie cross,but there are too many Champions,and produced Champions by them,and Online to count. Them days are over. Ferrell took care of that line of dogs for us all. Two fantastic producers,...

BarkRidge

If you are interested in Miller dogs, i would call Mr. Miller and ask him who he would suggest. He may have some good contacts still. I bought a pup out of Millers Sparkle about 10 years ago from Dr. Art Griswold in Paris Mo. He may still know where to get a good one. Joe don House in Kentucky Ithi...

BarkRidge

Since you are looking for Ferrell's line of dogs, you really need to talk to Gary Lester. Gary is using Ferrell's model.

Gary leases Ferrell's farm in Murray along with Joe Don. i would think Gary would have more than enough Miller for you.

BarkRidge

BrettBryan wrote:Here's one more of Hank. These pictures were taken right before X-mas last year. Hank was around 9 months old at the time.

Brett,

Are you going to run that dog in NSTRA events ????

BarkRidge

Buying pups, too me, is a crap shoot, whatever the pedigree. If I am forced to buy a pup i will try and buy it around a year old. i also like to know about previous breeding and were they successful. I also try and find out why the two dogs were bred. What was the breeder doing in breeding the pair?...

BarkRidge

I do not hunt. In my area, Western Ky, Central Tn, the quail are so few and far between it does not seem right to kill them when there numbers are so low. I am only interested in "bird" dogs for trialing purposes. For pets I choose another breed, German Shepherds.

BarkRidge

I am in Western Kentucky. Around Gracey. I do not hunt but have noticed an increase in the rabbit and quail populations around here.

You should find some nice grouse habitat around your area.

BarkRidge

I have heard of a trialer who gave up on a dog that later became a National Champion. Said trialer now holds on to his dogs much longer now.

BarkRidge

Just wondering where most of the guys/gals on here get pups. Do you buy from a "kennel", someone who has a litter or two a year, have pups yourself, etc....? I personally have bought pups from a "kennel". I got a nice dog but it was partially due to the fact I could go to the kennel once a week and...

BarkRidge

I am looking at some all age males to breed a female of mine to,and I was wondering about all the buzz about this male.I cant find any info or trial record for him.is he producing that well that when you merely mention his name a hush falls over the crowd,and just a pup goes for 1200 bucks?Im not s...

BarkRidge

i swear she could dig her was out in less than an hour, she is like a freakin gopher

I am still laughing.

BarkRidge

I saw that Erin's Skydancer on the Erin's kennel page.I bet he does cook to be on board with his kenel mates.He's got some "big dogs" to run with in that kennel.I loves me some tri-color setters.Im getting a tricky "bleep",tricky "bleep" Jim line bred female soon.The very first dog I ever had that ...

BarkRidge

You guys are nuts. Why would a person want an AA dog to hunt with? I mean a true all age, not a "pedigree" AA dog. AA dogs are runoffs to the hunter. They are bred to run to the front and stay there. Why would you want to purchase a dog and have to constantly shock the dog to keep it in. Seems a bit...

BarkRidge

http://www.uplandbirddog.com/dc/dcboard ... ype=search

The link provides his method.

BarkRidge

Goodness.

I agree on paper those dogs should roll !!!!!!

BarkRidge

If you want to win can't go wrong with a Miller Bred dog, for most horeseback dog trialers. For all age most have a fair share out of Miller at some point. I have seen some good shooting dog's out of Sinbad. Kinkelaar runs a string of those lines. Blackhawk has been producing some good dogs as well...

BarkRidge

ezzy333 wrote:Why would a rat make you get rid of the grill? :roll: I would get rid of the rat and keep the grill.

Ezzy

That was hilarious. Still laughing.

BarkRidge

If some of you guys really want a TRUE prospect out of the Rock Acre line, instead of buying a long string of pups looking for a winning dog.( Odds are about 1 in 25 even with really good breeding) Pee Wee Cole, (Breeder of the Rock Acre Line), told me he has a dog he won a national event as a puppy...

BarkRidge

Yawallac wrote:Here are some Cash pups that I shot this morning!! Pretty NICE!!

Are those the dogs Scott Turner has for sale ?????

I know He is selling pups out of those two dogs right now.

BarkRidge

The only time I saw Strut run he did not impress me. Since Strut won more as a Derby than any dog in American Field history I suspect that your opinion is in the minority! :lol: Like I said. He did not impress me as an All Age campaigner. Not to say he was not a good dog, or would make a good shoot...

BarkRidge

I am not getting this love fest over Blackhawk offspring. As stated by Yawallac, "The hottest sire in the country". Some of the best pointer lines , for all age dogs, have none of his lines in their kennels. He tends to throw decent shooting dogs. The only time I saw Strut run he did not impress me....

BarkRidge

That tri-color setter is one greta looking dog.

BarkRidge

barkridge, I guess that is what i was trying to point out. I think the jury is still out. I would love to have a pup out of that breeding. If you are interested in that breeding, I know of a double bred female, from both Date Line and Lancelot on both sides. Her sire is Snowwatch and her dam is out...

BarkRidge

snowatch is out of millers dateline and lesters leeza. she is a sister of sir lancealot. this dog was on of ferrels best dogs he ever had. lancelot is said to be one of hoyle eaton's top 3 dogs of all time. I would think that there would be a bunch of good pups in there somewhere. I have real troub...

BarkRidge

I have two German Shepherds. Both were imported from Germany. Love that breed, especially the imported lines.

BarkRidge

The handler's rates I posted in an earlier post was Shawn Kinkelaar.

BarkRidge

How about $400 dollars a month plus entry fees. They keep all the winnings.

BarkRidge

I had a female climb a fence and took off for a week while in season. I sent a report to the local shelter. They finally picked her up.

But when i got her back she was no longer in-season or pregnant. That goodness for leash laws.

BarkRidge

Windy, I now can agree with some of what you are saying. You say that your typical hunting requires a dog that is at a maximum range of 60 yards or so? I wouldn't sell a dog into that type of hunting. I don't think I've ever bred a dog that had a tendency to hunt so close. Seems flushers make more ...

BarkRidge

If the truth be known. I agree with you. A field trial dog, too me, should possess all the attributes one would want in a hunting dog and more. Trial breeding is where I would want to purchase my dogs, trialing or not. They simply are proven to be the best of the breed.

BarkRidge

I have, until now, avoided commenting in this thread. I just did not have a dog in this fight, so to speak. But, last month, I was walking some puppies, (6 mos), with an acquaintance. These were fully bred AA trial dogs. AA trial CH on both sides in abundance. Really nice prospects. As we walked, tw...

BarkRidge

9 here in TN.

BarkRidge

How do I put a picture under my sign in name on my posts.

BarkRidge

Buying a puppy, of any breeding is a crap shoot. The odds are stacked against us. It is not limited to just trialers. People looking for a hunting dog come across dogs that would rather stay in the truck. Granted the odds are greater for the hunting dog enthusiast satisfying his demand . For the tri...

BarkRidge

Yes, NC Shell Creek Coin was out of Lester's breeding. Gary sold it because he thought it did not have enough run. Steve Hurdle got Coin and changed his training and became an all-age national champion. Don Wiggins used to breed to the Miller dogs every time he had a dog come into heat, until River ...

BarkRidge

The banning of Miller....Is his doing. He didn't/doesn't want to pay the fines and offices hours that His Pedigree mis-match caused What ever on purpose or not If the truth be known Ferrel actually did pay the fines. But he was still not allowed to register with the field. There was apparently grea...

BarkRidge

Ross, I know that was Miller's theory on paper. By "on paper" I mean if you look at the peds of his great dogs. The formula, as I recall, was something like half-brother to half-sister, and the get of that back to the grandsire. That formula was repeated, if I recall correctly, to make Miller's Chi...

BarkRidge

I have actually had people ask what is wrong with a litter because of my pricing. $400-350. They said, so and so has his for $600-800, why are yours so cheap? They are dogs, and even with the best of breeding they are still a crap shoot. I think the pointer guys have that figured out better than an...

BarkRidge

Try( http://www.settersunlimited.com/)

Bill Moore 731-645-5126 (Tricky "bleep" Lines)

BarkRidge

Exactly right. There are many other quotes that could be disgusted also. People do not make money with dogs. Most breeders are arogant. Things of this type can be disgusted but little is ever gained. One thing I would like to see is everyone name a person they know personally and not just heard abo...

BarkRidge

Yawallac wrote:Another linebred Guardrail pup from Gene Casale!!

He is laying flat on the ground taking that picture. Now that is art and dedication. That takes some skill to get the pup to pose and crawl around on the ground. Nice picture.

BarkRidge

A good friend of ours, who has a lifetime of experience as a dog and horse breeder and trainer, told me once: "People who get into breeding dogs or horses with the idea they are going to make buckets of money are delusional, fools, or something worse. Dogs and horses aren't about money, they are ab...

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