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mossanimal

thanks! anybody have info a good beeper?

mossanimal

Hi, Are there good less expensive options for shorter range e-collars for more 'yard training' use??? Walmart carries one for $85 or so but had terrible reviews.... Also... can somebody recommend a remotely activated beeper collar that doesn't have e-training capabilities.... just a remotely activat...

mossanimal

Thanks for your input...I appreciate it. Just not exactly what I was looking for. But like I said above... that original post was made after a frustrating day. Today: she ran within my comfortable range, pointed birds, retriev... wait. She doesn't retrieve woodcock... but I've learned to live with t...

mossanimal

I'm not really worried about her. I just wanna know if she is bumping birds and I think it's fun seeing her react to birds. And I do have a beeper, but I only use the locator function... I don't have it on a running tone (I hate the sound). An Astro would only tell me where she is exactly.... I usua...

mossanimal

That sounds suspiciously like training Ray! But good advice. Thank ya for that. But how does that reduce range? What if she is out of sigh and out of bell range, up ahead? I guess if I could hear her and know that I want her to start veering in one particular directions... and that would halt an all...

mossanimal

Thanks Rick...

One thing you mentioned... regarding seeing her flush a bird and bringing her back, etc. Usually, she is far enough away, and it such heavy cover, that I could never get to her in time to make that correction!

mossanimal

Ruff.... Yeah... Wisconsin grouse woods. I consider her out of comfortable range when I no longer hear her bell and she can't find me when I whistle. I've not used the e-collar while hunting for the exact reason you mention. But I was curious about how folks use it for reducing range. When I was fir...

mossanimal

Listen... It's just that everybody else had something constructive to add in a non-pretentious manner and you have to add your two cents in a high and mighty way that has turned me off to this forum in the past. Your post was nothing but condescending. 'per se' - by strict definition. works I think....

mossanimal

Thanks a lot fellas...

Okay Slistoe... Thats why I said 'per se'. We can mince words if you want. Let's say training in an actual hunting situation rather than in the yard. Thanks for the USEFUL advice fellas....

mossanimal

Thanks.... I should have clarified. I'm really not in a training situation at this point per se. Mostly I was looking for things to do while I'm hunting her (Wisconsin grouse woods). She recalls on a whistle.... Should I just let her get to my preferred range and the recall her? Or is there somethin...

mossanimal

I was wondering if somebody could point me to an effective method for reducing a dogs hunting range with an e-collar. Or perhaps any effective method with or without e-collar. Thank you very much! (I searched the forums but had a hard time coming up with something.... if somebody has a link to a sim...

mossanimal

hey! maybe we should go together!?

mossanimal

So we might be headed to SD for a few days to hunt pheasant on public land or 'walk ins'. I'm not asking for specific spots... no worries... but any advice on how to set up a good hunting situation without guides, etc? What might one expect if he showed up mid november with dogs attempting to hunt t...

mossanimal

Hey! Where is your pup goin' with that bird?

mossanimal

Don't believe this guy. I saw him sitting at the tavern all day.

mossanimal

I was sitting in my tree stand near on old apple orchard this morning and grouse were in the apple trees all around me. After seeing no deer, I went home and grabbed the dog and shotgun and went back in the afternoon. Around 10 flushes and two birds down. All the birds were in or near apple trees. A...

mossanimal

no... I wasn't with her. anyway... i definitely need to get out and do some work on pointing with her though.. just to make me feel better.

mossanimal

So.... I have a two year old French britt who was just starting to learn to point grouse last season. We got chickens and were keeping them well separated, but we had several chicks escape into our backwoods. We kept the britt in the house for a few days until they were either caught or presumed dea...

mossanimal

Howdy folks.... I have a two year old French Britt who is very birdy.... and we now have chickens. They are still chicks and in their brood area but soon they will need to go into a run. So.... what is the best thing to do to get my dog accustomed to these birds? Is there any danger of turning her o...

mossanimal

Well I'm definitely in the crowd that runs to the dog when the beeper goes off. But if I sneak through 75-100 yards of tag alder brush I'm never going to get there! All the same, I've never really thought about being stealthy coming up to my dog, but maybe it would help settle my nerves so I can act...

mossanimal

How old is your handheld? My new Delorme handheld can get satellites inside buildings and the thickest cover I've been in anywhere hunting. They are pretty amazing in that regard these days. I'm really torn about this Astro thing. My two hang-ups would be constantly wanting to look at the unit to se...

mossanimal

Grouse Dog Guy... Thanks for that post. You have some good ideas for using the e-collar. I just started doing something like that on our walks... but, I've been saying 'back'. I need to starting thinking more about this silence thing. I would love to hear more from people about whether or not the be...

mossanimal

This is great stuff guys.. I really appreciate it. And yes... I always have a hard time telling people what her actual range is. And I also agree.. I need to gain more confidence in her ability to hold steady so I can relax about range. In fact, I just need to relax! Man.. it's fun to hunt with a do...

mossanimal

I guess I'm considering 100 yards to be too far. I just feel like I hear the point-tone go off, I bust my behind breaking through brush to get to her, then I hear her yipping and yapping after the busted bird before I get there. I know she is pointing in these situations... but I'm not always sure w...

mossanimal

I forgot to mention... The pup is 1 and a half years old. She still has a lot of maturing to do. But I'm pleased at the results up to this point. I guess I just want to do know if I should try to facilitate her working closer... or just continue to let the birds teach her. And I will stand my ground...

mossanimal

Hi there... Okay.. I got through my first grouse season with my new French Britt pup and she made much progress. She started pointing, some retrieving and displayed an incredible drive and ability to find birds. In addition to steadying her up a bit more, I now want to get her to start working a bit...

mossanimal

Hi... Personal messages keep getting stuck in my outbox and are not being sent. Help!!!!

mossanimal

Hi... I was wondering if anybody had any experience with neoprene dog boots on smaller breeds. I just bought Avery hi-tops for my French Britt in medium size. Well, I tried them on her and I couldn't seem to get her feet all the way down, she walked a few times, became terrified and froze up in an a...

mossanimal

Well, on this note.. I'm signing off. Thanks again for the info!

mossanimal

Thanks for that Gary. I'm starting to lean towards getting a springer. How did your dogs take to it at first???

mossanimal

These are all great points... Thanks y'all! Looks I will have to decide between letting her free run and getting a Springer/Walky Dog type of thing. I haven't actually tried having her free run with me on a bike yet. I live out in the country in Northern Wisconsin and we don't have a ton of traffic,...

mossanimal

Hello, I want to start exercising my dog on back-country roads with my mountain bike (once the snow melts!). I'm looking at a couple of different products... The Springer dog jogger and the Walky Dog. Is anybody familiar with these? Or does anybody have any general advice for bicycle roading dogs? T...

mossanimal

Thanks for the prompt responses.... At this point, I'm not sure if it was due to injury or the conformation of the bone. I am assuming we will not know for sure until we have x-rays done. I have a feeling it will turn out to be a bone thing. It comes in and out so easily and there is no pain whatsoe...

mossanimal

Hi there... I just found out that my 14 month old French Britt has a luxating patella on one hind leg. According to my vet it's a grade two. She shows no pain but every once in awhile her leg locks up and goes back in very easy. Right now he has prescribed glucosamine, some physical therapy (my wife...

mossanimal

I might just have to give that a try now that I have a few in the fridge....

mossanimal

You told me just fine! I'm just curious more than anything. I prefer my dog to be a grouse dog... not a woodcock dog. But it sure is interesting to see how differently she behaves around them...

mossanimal

Hi there.... I've been out the last two weekends hunting grouse and woodcock with my one year old french britt and I've noticed that she acts completely differently around the two birds. Grouse... she goes nuts. Yipping and yapping if she bumps one. If I shoot one, she picks it up and thoroughly enj...

mossanimal

Thanks everybody.... Yeah, I know about the leaves. I live up here and I've been running her up in the woods around Bayfield and Washburn. So she is in shape and used to running in the hot, brushy woods. But... now that I will have a gun in hand and will be going down to where there are more birds.....

mossanimal

Hi All, I will be taking my 1 year old French Britt for her first grouse hunt this coming weekend in Northern Wisconsin. I was able to work her quite a bit on pigeons earlier in the summer but haven't had time to work on pointing for awhile. She has had some... but very little... exposure to wild bi...

mossanimal

Thanks for all the responses. Two things... I am starting to use the ecollar lightly to reinforce whoa. I think that might help. And yes... I think my 'whoas' can be a bit loud and sound reprimandish. My wife mentioned that to me today.

Anyway... All of this helps. Thanks!

mossanimal

Hello... I have my pup woahing very well at my side and when she is out in front 10 or so feet away. But... if she is further, and I announce 'whoa!' she creeps towards me and stays by my side... I can walk away and she will stay until released. For example: she is running out ahead and is going tow...

mossanimal

Thanks.... That all helps. I just can't wait until July 31 so I can walk in the grouse woods with my dog.

mossanimal

Howdy... I have an 8 month French Britt that is starting to get pretty steady to shot on planted chukar and pigeons (with remote launcher). She has been broke on the gun and I feel she is ready to hunt. I just moved to northern Wisconsin and am new to grouse hunting. My next step is to get my pup in...

mossanimal

Thanks... That is pretty much what I'm doing... I guess I just need to keep working her on it.

Thanks again!

mossanimal

My 8.5 month french brittany is starting to hold point very well... at least to flush, I shoot the bird and she finds it very well. The problem is that when she gets to the bird she doesn't pick it up. She picks at it, jumps around... picks it up, drops it and then picks it up and heads somewhere el...

mossanimal

Hello.... I've been working my french britt (Clover) on pigeons. This weekend, I planted birds with tethered cardboard in a manual launcher and work her up to the hidden launcher with 20' check cord. She has been picking up the scent and pointing really well.... she has been picking up the scent fro...

mossanimal

I'm a rank amateur and I have just been real successful using this method: http://www.thecheckcord.com/archives/introbirds.html My birds don't flush as well as the birds described here, so I used the Delmar Smith method of having a 'bird boy' (my wife) rush in and throw the bird if it doesn't lift o...

mossanimal

I'm assuming you ONLY use the whoa post if you are working by yourself? I have a pretty reliable and willing partner in this...

mossanimal

Thanks for that... And... yes, I've searched quite a bit and I'm just trying to find the way that best fits me, my dog, and my budget. As to the hollering... He recommends that once the dog picks up the scent and starts to move towards the bird, have your 'bird boy' (my wife) toss the bird and yell ...

mossanimal

Hi there... I was just wondering what people think about Delmar's method of tethering a pigeon to garden hose, CCing pup to the scent, then using a 'bird boy' to grab the hose, shout, and fling the bird in the air.

Thanks a bunch!

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