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by Trekmoor
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSP with a thick coat?
Replies: 6
Views: 417

Re: GSP with a thick coat?

It is not just the coat that is different, the general build of the dog is too.

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:22 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Pickiness with dummies
Replies: 6
Views: 122

Re: Pickiness with dummies

I don't think I've ever owned or seen a dog behave as you describe with dummies. I start pups on retrieves from the moment I first get them and I vary the dummies a lot in texture, weight, colour and size. Most of the pups will have a preference for one type of dummy over another but they will retri...
by Trekmoor
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:03 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Pickiness with dummies
Replies: 6
Views: 122

Re: Pickiness with dummies

Does it really matter ? The dog is only doing what most dogs would do. For instance if I put out a canvas dummy and a rabbit skin dummy it is very probable that my dogs would choose the rabbit skin dummy if the dogs were just being "sent to a pile." But if I put a dummy out to left and to right and ...
by Trekmoor
Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:05 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Organizing a training day
Replies: 8
Views: 304

Re: Organizing a training day

I will add only this. I have been a learner handler at training days and I have been a trainer at them too and this is the thing that can make or break a training day. People and dogs get bored just standing around while waiting for their turn with the class trainer. Keep the class numbers down to w...
by Trekmoor
Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:01 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Other Hunting, are You Done.......
Replies: 17
Views: 673

Re: Other Hunting, are You Done.......

I was and I still am a keen angler. I fly fished for trout and loved dry fly fishing on the rivers. I did a bit of competitive fly fishing on the lochs from a boat but wasn't often in among the prizes. I also did and still do a lot of sea fishing, mainly from the shore. I did win a few prizes when I...
by Trekmoor
Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:57 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSP with a thick coat?
Replies: 6
Views: 417

Re: GSP with a thick coat?

GSP coats can be a bit variable. My daughter has one with a slightly longer coat of very stiff and thick hair. He is very much a water lover and always has been. He went in for a swim of his own accord at just 3 months old.
I wonder if the coat has anything to do with that ?

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Thu May 30, 2019 4:13 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSP attacking ducks
Replies: 12
Views: 498

Re: GSP attacking ducks

My daughter has a man living about 200 yards away from her house and he keeps chickens in his backyard which faces onto hilly moorland with lots of cover. He let his hens out to range over the land outside his yard and my daughters 6 months old GSP hunted for them. He caught and brought her back one...
by Trekmoor
Thu May 23, 2019 8:45 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Training method comparison
Replies: 15
Views: 499

Re: Training method comparison

It seems the British style geared more towards a hunting dog and the American style more focused on preparing for hunt test and trialing as the goal. Now that puzzles me quite a lot. Here in Britain a "British style" lab is taught to walk to heel and to retrieve. It is not taught or permitted to hu...
by Trekmoor
Thu May 23, 2019 6:30 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Training method comparison
Replies: 15
Views: 499

Re: Training method comparison

I do not think it is possible to assess the "British way" compared to the "American way" by using only two pups as the test subjects. I am told that American retrievers tend to be higher in prey drive than ours are and that may be true but I have also been told they are more prone to excitement whin...
by Trekmoor
Thu May 02, 2019 4:15 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Selling the concept
Replies: 16
Views: 693

Re: Selling the concept

Quote - "Fortunately ,I teach mine to stop to a Flush First , So I just throw a Bird /dummy in the air and catch it myself . ..then I fire a shot , and then I blow the stop whistle ..when and or if it moves ...But It never does , because it was conditioned to Not ,when flushed first ,so the Stop whi...
by Trekmoor
Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Selling the concept
Replies: 16
Views: 693

Re: Selling the concept

I find it amusing to watch an 8 weeks to 10 weeks old pup "pointing" a wing on a string …. and to note whether the pup is inclined to move in quickly for a "catch" or if the pup is the more cautious type. Knowing that sometimes helps once the pup is actually pointing on game, but that is about the l...
by Trekmoor
Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.
Replies: 19
Views: 738

Re: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.

It wiznae a request ! I'm lucky I never got my heid chopped off ! :lol:

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:37 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Retrieve Issues
Replies: 8
Views: 402

Re: Retrieve Issues

Plus another 1 . All I would like to add is to maybe use old, smelly, woollen socks stuffed with rags to make a sausage or bumper shaped retrieve article. Sock bumpers are very soft and even teething pups seem to just love them.


Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:26 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.
Replies: 19
Views: 738

Re: Gun Dog Trainers/Mentors.

:lol: I'm enjoying this thread ! :lol: I got lucky while I was still young enough to make some use of the luck . I seemed to attract "mentors" from among the old guard of gundog trainers. I took all of their often forcefully given criticisms and came back for more but I did not always do as they had...
by Trekmoor
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:21 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Won't hunt
Replies: 18
Views: 733

Re: Won't hunt

It's a 4 months old puppy ! Give the pup a chance. I once had a 6 months old GSP pup that showed little interest in anything . One of my other dogs flushed a rabbit which ran within inches of the pup but even that did not interest him. I considered selling him as a pet but at 8 months old he suddenl...
by Trekmoor
Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:11 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 42
Views: 1805

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

That's interesting Ezzy. I never had any trouble at all in getting the continental breeds to hunt and point , it just seemed to happen.

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:20 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 42
Views: 1805

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

I have often wondered just what people do to dogs that makes those dogs not want to retrieve. I used to train retriever classes and found that even the show bred labs wanted to retrieve but every now and then someone would turn up with a lab of work breeding that did not want to retrieve. This is so...
by Trekmoor
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:16 am
Forum: Training
Topic: STEADY TO RELEASE
Replies: 15
Views: 664

Re: STEADY TO RELEASE

This is very cool, how do you teach/ incorporate them to freeze in your training? Are there more links in your bio? Hi Jeff, there isn't really any "teach" involved in having a dog do as that dog did. Probably every pointing dog in Britain does exactly the same thing and for the same reason. Brad H...
by Trekmoor
Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:01 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What am I?
Replies: 20
Views: 1090

Re: What am I?

I am not at all sure about the head but her neck and her stance make me think there is maybe a dose of greyhound in there ?

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 42
Views: 1805

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

:lol: I know what is coming and it does work ! :lol:

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:38 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF
Replies: 42
Views: 1805

Re: Training GSP to retrieve w/out FF

You could take a good look at clicker training in general and then at clicker training as it applies to retrieving. I believe even creatures like cats and farmyard hens have been trained to retrieve using the click/treat method ? So surely a dog could be taught that way ?

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:44 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Blowing the Stink Off
Replies: 9
Views: 529

Re: Blowing the Stink Off

Yes, I spoke too soon ! It is snowing fairly heavily here right now ! :roll: It is lying about a half inch thick .

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:34 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Pretty Amazing
Replies: 7
Views: 457

Re: Pretty Amazing

I thoroughly enjoyed that video . Thankyou for posting it in.

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:19 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Blowing the Stink Off
Replies: 9
Views: 529

Re: Blowing the Stink Off

This has been a very unusual winter here. I have only seen two or three snowflakes fall ! It hasn't rained very much either and the east winds we expect in the winter were almost totally absent . That caused my usual sport of shore fishing for cod to be very poor on the east coast of Scotland as the...
by Trekmoor
Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:36 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Slowing down the dog
Replies: 47
Views: 1432

Re: Slowing down the dog

It used to be said that a dog was "too fast for it's nose." This is not quite true . The dog is simply too fast for it's level of experience on birds.
Give your bitch enough experience and the problem - if there is one - will disappear.

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: a techie problem
Replies: 19
Views: 755

Re: a techie problem

Now it's the doppelganger of the Trekmoor home pitch - spittin' image. Well done, Bill, no techie problemo! MG As Crackered has just said this "channel" has just changed again .... this time to one I do like ! :D It is the exact same as the one in Britain that I have infested for many years and can...
by Trekmoor
Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:25 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: a techie problem
Replies: 19
Views: 755

Re: a techie problem

"It is to fit in with the new Gender equality laws Wullie , It is actually called " An Am I" ? . ps , I have also been requested to not address you as I have always done "Wullie " .It apparently offends some folk . " Hi Robert, I noticed the above and it took me a couple of seconds to understand why...
by Trekmoor
Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:31 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: a techie problem
Replies: 19
Views: 755

a techie problem

For the last few days I have had difficulty accessing this forum. It now comes under the heading of "ANAMI." Is this now to be the norm ? I would have asked this question by P.M. but there doesn't seem to be a way of doing that under the ANAMI heading. I am probably the least computer minded person ...
by Trekmoor
Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:21 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Application rather than the tool.
Replies: 17
Views: 668

Re: Application rather than the tool.

Like Robert (Polmaise) I have never had to use a pinch collar but I am not anti their use. I normally train pups heelwork using a slip lead and I do it by waking in small sized "squares" of about 12 feet by 12 feet. I only do right angled turns which means I always turn away from the pup …..at least...
by Trekmoor
Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:26 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Whats going on in Oregon Trials and Tests?
Replies: 80
Views: 1938

Re: Whats going on in Oregon Trials and Tests?

How likely is it that this Bill will be passed ? Wouldn't America's huge gun lobby see the dangers in this and help to vote it down ? About 35 years ago the Anti's in Britain thought they could get a law passed prohibiting "cruelty" in sports but they had forgotten that our many thousands of keen an...
by Trekmoor
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:40 am
Forum: Training
Topic: The value of the force fetch.
Replies: 42
Views: 1496

Re: The value of the force fetch.

I do fully accept that a dog trained the F.F. can become a very good retriever for I once F.F. trained a big, very "tough" border collie male to retrieve using F.F. I think he was about 12 - 14 months old but I cannot be sure for I got him from the Dogs Home....he had been a street stray. I wanted t...
by Trekmoor
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:48 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: The value of the force fetch.
Replies: 42
Views: 1496

Re: The value of the force fetch.

MG - - - your post on here made me look for the post(s) on the British forum you were referring to. It is interesting to see the almost inversed proportions on the subject of F.F. between that forum and this one ! The "St. Francis " guy you mentioned is on his own personal pilgrimage to persuade mor...
by Trekmoor
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:37 am
Forum: Training
Topic: The value of the force fetch.
Replies: 42
Views: 1496

The value of the force fetch.

Sharon suggested this topic in another thread and it would interest me to see what the split is on here between the folk that do F.F. and those that do not. Personally I am a "do not" - - - - - mainly because I never find it necessary to do it . A pup that already has a decent retrieve instinct only...
by Trekmoor
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:12 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Kovan - No squeak Toys
Replies: 16
Views: 644

Re: Kovan - No squeak Toys

I don't give pups squeaky toys for the same reason as others have stated …..plus I don't have to. There are plenty of other things pups can play with. Very occasionally I have had problems when pups of large breeds have been given tennis balls as play retrieves. I had one male GSP pup that delighted...
by Trekmoor
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:59 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Brittany nose color
Replies: 15
Views: 1563

Re: Brittany nose color

Handsome is as handsome does. :D I am always far more interested in what is inside a dogs head than in the dictates of "dog fashion." I've had 3 brits and one had a flesh coloured nose the other two had black noses. They all won in shows and the one with the flesh coloured nose won her classes at Cr...
by Trekmoor
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Time to Fully Train a Brittany
Replies: 18
Views: 765

Re: Time to Fully Train a Brittany

I have fully trained 3 brittanies and none of them were fully trained within a couple of months ! I think 5 - 6 months is a more realistic figure ….it is when training is done by me anyway.

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Sitting on "WHOA"
Replies: 22
Views: 3439

Re: Sitting on "WHOA"

This thread interests me because all of my pups are very thoroughly taught to sit to several different commands and yet not even one of those pups has ever sat while on point . I train using wild birds.... pheasants, partridge , snipe and sometimes red grouse and I don't use e - collars or even a ch...
by Trekmoor
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:50 am
Forum: Training
Topic: sending dog for training
Replies: 72
Views: 2095

Re: sending dog for training

If you send your dog off for a month or two's training with a pro then the dog may know how to do a few things …..but you will not. Personally I would try to find a good trainer who lives fairly near to you and ask him/her for 1 - 2 - 1 lessons. It would cost you more in fuel but that would be offse...
by Trekmoor
Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:08 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: French Brittany
Replies: 15
Views: 872

Re: French Brittany

I have owned two French brits and one American type brit , she was a cross between a French and an American brit and she looked American in "type" ….. a slightly longer muzzle , longer hair and a bit bigger than the frenchies. She was a really good worker and is still the only Brittany in Britain to...
by Trekmoor
Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Building Better Retrieves
Replies: 18
Views: 576

Re: Building Better Retrieves

:lol: Robert (Polmaise) and I have had several disagreements but he isn't as bad in person as he can appear to be in print ! :lol: Anyway, I never worry about it coz I know I'm right and he is wrong ! 8) :lol: :lol: I think all three of us are in broad agreement that giving a pup or young dog worrie...
by Trekmoor
Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:14 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Building Better Retrieves
Replies: 18
Views: 576

Re: Building Better Retrieves

.…………"Don't do what does not work, do what does." ……………. Is there any good reason for training your dog that it must deliver from the at heel position ? I am assuming that this is what you are aiming for ? If it were me I would simply do what the dog was previously happy to do and I would accept the...
by Trekmoor
Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:45 am
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: For guys who just don’t understand
Replies: 5
Views: 549

Re: For guys who just don’t understand

Thanks for the link to the song. If I lived over there I think I'd be interested in that. I love hearing hounds on a trail.

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:55 am
Forum: Training
Topic: hunt close
Replies: 52
Views: 1523

Re: hunt close

If your dog is to hunt within 70 yards from you then be consistent and train it on open ground to keep well within that range. Don't let it out further than the distance you can control it at. You will have to command the turns for a good long time but eventually the dog will accept your range limit...
by Trekmoor
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:26 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Thanks, Ezzy333
Replies: 41
Views: 3026

Re: Thanks, Ezzy333

Thank you Ezzy for putting up with us for so long !

Best wishes.

Bill T.
by Trekmoor
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:23 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Brittany vs Springer
Replies: 14
Views: 734

Re: Brittany vs Springer

I have owned and worked both breeds and often worked both breeds together. The springer did the really rough stuff like bramble or gorse thickets far better than the Brittany and the Brittany did the more open ground far better than the springer. The springers were easier to train as retrievers than...
by Trekmoor
Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:03 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog won't find dead birds
Replies: 8
Views: 507

Re: Dog won't find dead birds

" there is a huge difference in a dog self motivated/driven to search for and recover a downed bird, (dead ones and live cripples running, burying in cover, swimming ...) and one that will go pick up a dead bird it got a mark on. That is also my opinion. Although I do not train F.F. I know that if ...
by Trekmoor
Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:46 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog won't find dead birds
Replies: 8
Views: 507

Re: Dog won't find dead birds

Although I am far from being knowledgeable about F.F. training I still don't think I'd use it as a way of encouraging a retrieve on a dead bird even if I was an expert . I'd take the route of encouraging and increasing the dog's really "wanting" to find and retrieve dead birds. I'd probably give the...
by Trekmoor
Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:35 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Dog won't find dead birds
Replies: 8
Views: 507

Re: Dog won't find dead birds

Your dog certainly will be scenting the dead birds ….it is the retrieve training the dog is lacking in. Dogs often have a preference for hunting over retrieving and it is your job to increase the dogs willingness to retrieve. You have got the balance between hunting and retrieving wrong somewhere du...
by Trekmoor
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:40 am
Forum: Training
Topic: how is that deadbirds sometimes seem invisible
Replies: 33
Views: 1732

Re: how is that deadbirds sometimes seem invisible

For me this is one of the inexplicable things that make hunting and dog work interesting. Good , experienced dogs that love to retrieve will not deliberately fail to retrieve. About 30 years ago I used to correspond with the author of a couple of gundog training books (Keith Erlandson.) Both of us u...
by Trekmoor
Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:53 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Positive enforcement
Replies: 110
Views: 3851

Re: Positive enforcement

As an admitted "Old Timer", I've never understood why people strive to make dog training so complicated. Everything has to have a label which only serves to complicate and confuse more. I have never understood people's needs to do that. It all boils down to when a behavior is rewarded, it's positiv...