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birddogger

Maybe you didn't make that many mistakes but Sharon does make some great points. Get a good book on training if you haven't already. Dave Walker or Mo would be a good start. Find a good program and stick with it. Don't believe everything you see on the internet because rest assured you will find pl...

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It is pretty much genetic.

Charlie

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Nothing wrong with a photo shoot and training at the same time....Nice!!

Charlie

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...I learned that. Some guns are freakin loud. Like deafening. Huh? My weim didn't seem to give a care. Didnt even look. He was pretty amazed with the fact.Told me over an over. Couldnt get over it. Dont see why all the excitement. Dogs dont have a clue what a gun is. Mine do. He was very happy wit...

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Ray makes some good points here. They are a good tool in training but not the only one and if you don't take the time to learn proper use you would be better off with out one. It may very well be that timing is everything. They may not be the only one, but they are the most precise, most humane, sa...

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It's something that cannot be explained to someone who doesn't hunt... It's a feeling... a state... that has to be experienced to understand. Being able to share that time with a dog - and even better, a dog and a little person.... Now that's what it's all about. This statement is as accurate as an...

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I also like short names.......Jake, Jack, Zeke, Buck, etc. for males.

Charlie

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A dog defining ones masculinity sounds pretty shallow.... You know, I was thinking the same thing. I have never heard or thought about a dog or breed in terms of masculinity. :? :roll: Charlie reallly? never? you've never assigned gender to a dog breed? I find that hard to believe. Poodles? yorkies...

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I love wild birds but it sure is nice to see a pen raised bird walking around in front of a pup/dog that I have been training and the dog standing steady without moving a muscle.

Charlie

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birddog1968 wrote:A dog defining ones masculinity sounds pretty shallow....

You know, I was thinking the same thing. I have never heard or thought about a dog or breed in terms of masculinity.

:roll:

Charlie

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No, it is not worth a darn.

Charlie

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birddog1968 wrote:Same all year, just feed amount according to body condition.

Same here.

Charlie

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ezzy333 wrote:I had one of those hawk screamers and if I was a dog I would bite you after you put one of those on the collar close to their ears. No dog deserves that.

JMO
Ezzy

I agree. I have never used one and never will.

Charlie

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roosters don't always hold real well and those that flush wild are going to flush wild for a lab as well. I have never hunted with a pointer that used a hawk beeper, in my opinion they are not needed.

I agree, I think a lot of us Americans just like gimicks.

Charlie

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RayGubernat wrote:I agree completely. Those exact sentiments are precisely why I placed you on my ignore list.

Have a nice day.

RayG

Awesome! LMAO!

Charlie

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Sounds to me like she is doing like most dogs do, they eat less once they are through growing. I think most picky eaters are created and that is what happened when you were mixing canned and dry. She liked it and wants you to continue doing that. I have found that dogs like humans eat when they are...

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For me, it is more about the dog work than how many birds I can put in the bag. That being said, I still want to shoot some birds but do it with the dogs I enjoy the most, which for me is pointing dogs. In other words, I would use the type of dog I enjoy the most.

Charlie

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ezzy333 wrote:Over many years and hundreds of dogs I am yet to see any connection between thunder storms and gun shyness. I have had many dogs that didn't like storms that had no problem at all with a gun and vice versa.

Ezzy

Exactly right!!

Charlie

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Was that about head crank Charlie ;)).... I second sending Evan a message and following to a T..good luck hope all goes well.... Na, no right or wrong there...Just preference. :D Charlie Glad you knew I was poking fun Charlie....always value your thoughts and opinions. ;) Ofcourse I knew that. I go...

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Being steady until released is fine and shows a well mannered and well trained dog. But what about being staunch on point and style? It is just not there. Well done video though.

Charlie

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birddog1968 wrote:Was that about head crank Charlie )....

I second sending Evan a message and following to a T..good luck hope all goes well....

Na, no right or wrong there...Just preference.

Charlie

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I have a Wirehaired Pointing Griffon. I feed and recommend raw, and I recommend making your own raw. It is more complicated, it takes time, and it costs more money, but the end result cannot be argued with. For the record, I analyze and sell food for a living, and there are some kibbles that are go...

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I am with Bluesky on not throwing fun bumpers while force fetching, but I could be wrong. I was one time.

Charlie

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one more post , then get back on topic.:) .................. Depends on the person's definition of "gateway", and complicated. Weed is illegal where I live. Kids who are smoking weed , feel they are above the law. This kind of thinking will often lead to harder drugs - NOT the weed , but the mindse...

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They will find a way if the time is right and they are together long enough. I hope it didn't happen though.

Charlie

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This is probably all correct but I think the point is that alcohol is more addictive and causes more accidents and fatalities than marijuana ever has or ever will. And if pot is a gateway to hard drugs, then the same could be said for alcohol but yet it is legal. But just to be clear, I am not defen...

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Excellent post IMO Ray!

Charlie

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DoubleBarrel GunDogs wrote:
mtncntrykid wrote:wrap that pigeon with barb wire so he gets a poke if he bites to hard.
That'll teach him! If this method doesn't work nothing will. :roll:

Nate

My thoughts exactly! Where do people come up with this stuff?

Charlie

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I would let her chase and do what she is doing. The one thing I would do different is let her run without the 25'ft CC. A short piece of rope [tab] would be ok just to get her conditioned to having something on her collar. It is all about having fun and enjoying the game at this point. And I doubt t...

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Neil, they have proven that they don't have to confiscate our weapons; all they have to do is take away the means to shoot them.( like they have displayed by making it impossible to get Ammo, or the components to reload) How did they make it impossible to get ammo or reloading components? Just curi...

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Yeah, it sounds like you haven't transitioned to the e-collar properly and just dropped the CC and put the e-collar on. The dog doesn't have a clue.

Charlie

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In my opinion the e-collar and collar conditioning is the only way to get compliance 100%. I'm sure some dogs may do it without, but I have never owned one of those. Back in the day, I trained dogs to whoa with nothing but a leash and flat collar. Just say'n :) I didn't teach "heel" but rather just...

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Hey Bluesky, just realize that most of the members here try to be helpful, while a few just post sarcasm and insults without ever contributing anything regardless of what the thread is about. Even try to talk in riddles a lot of the time. :roll: That being said I agree with slistoe's take on it but ...

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RichK wrote:How is the quality of Pro Plan? Any reasons to avoid PP?

No reason whatsoever to avoid PP. Also, note that it is fed to hundreds if not thousands of high performance dogs with good success. I use something different because of cost but that is just me.

Charlie

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And from what the the OP has told us, the dog has had plenty of bird intro and has great prey drive. Why would anybody feel the need to continue with this or allow him to catch birds?? I mean I see no additional benefits to it but I could see plenty of bad things coming from it. JMO.

Charlie

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I am afraid it may already too late. It seems that, other wise intelligent people, either refuse or have lost the ability to think for themselves and soak up everything they read or see on TV without questioning anything.

Charlie

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A Sweet 16 Auto 5 may be the ticket....but mine works swell and I am a good bit past her height and weight. :) Again, it does mostly depend upon whether one likes what one has. That choice would be pretty classy for the lass...give one a look. This gun has an appropriate name...It is indeed, a "swe...

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Personally, I am glad that JKP has posted and brought up questions on this thread. He has made some very good points and generated answers which help people, like myself, understand what the AA trials are about. For me, this thread has been very informative.

Charlie

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Heart worms are not something to experiment with....proven medications are the only smart way to treat. Neither is Google a good place to get information if you have a one track mind. I didn't know you were a vet too, Did you go: to the same veterinary college as Neil ? We are wasting our time with...

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Yah I used my sport dog 400 on my throat up to level 4 and my friend went to 5 but I only go up to 4 on my lab if its necessary. We had a bunch of people over a few weeks ago and I would turn it to 8 and get them in the leg or arm. But of course that was after we had started on the beer and whiskey...

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Formal training sessions are best kept short. My rule of thumb is one minute for each month of age up to 10 months. 10 minutes is the longest formal training session I run. Walking your dog in the field is not a formal training session and trying to mix the two, imo, will yield mixed results. Comma...

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My lab mix currently has heartworms but I do not have a $700-$1000 for treatments at the vet. I heard about people getting heartworm treatment for other animals like live stock from a store and using a smaller dosage on their dog. Has anybody had experience with this? Please do not give veterinaria...

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Bottom line is when you breed for certain traits within cetain lines as NAVHDA breeders do, the odds of producing the traits you are looking for are much better than just picking a puppy from anywhere and trying to train it for the traits you want. The reason I advised NAVHDA breeders to the OP is b...

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When I was a kid, my dad fed his hounds coon carcasses in the winter and hog pellets the rest of the year. They did well, and lived to be old Nope kibble would be much better! Maybe you should actually read what he said.Charlie It depends which quote you were referring to. I think everybody knows I...

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Once we forget what pointers are doing and concentrate on what our breeds are supposed to do we can work on improving our breeds and stop trying to make them pointers. IMO....Pointers have at the same time been a great influence on other breeds and a horrible influence. They are an important founda...

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Neil, what about the need for a split in the Brittany? The beauty of the GSP is that we acknowledge the split. We don't take show dogs, run them with a bunch of other "no goers" and call them all age dogs. A show dog might finish as a field champion in shorthairs if run enough. 99% have no shot in ...

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It doesn't sound like a problem at all to me. The whoa command is an obedience/safety command. As long as he stops and stands still, there is no problem IMO. As another poster said, I would very highly doubt there will be any head movement when pointing birds.

Charlie

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Oh WOW!!!

Charlie

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Welcome back Steve and with a good common sense post. I would imagine that 99.9 percent of us will agree with you too! 8) Charlie I doubt it since feeding coon carcasses would not be considered a balanced diet by most in the kibble community. We cant have it both ways Charlie. Nope kibble would be ...

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Welcome back Steve and with a good common sense post. I would imagine that 99.9 percent of us will agree with you too!

Charlie

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