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Joe Amatulli

Well now the truth comes out. This sounds more like PPH, which we are guilty of and not PPJ. Tough break, but a little better handling would have taken care of this. Brad I never watch the bird, you need to concentrate on your dog, that is why I tell the gunner to tell me yes or no, but it sounds li...

Joe Amatulli

Now you are getting into the area of, simply poor judges. Roberts it is the fault of the gunner for not telling the handler that the bird is hit, with that, it is now the handlers option to send or not to send, but with him sending the dog if that dog bumbed a dozen birds, he is in retrieve mode, th...

Joe Amatulli

Scott I remember when Dougy boy was throwing dogs out that pushed up birds during the retrieve and that is what you get when you have non GSP people judging. When a dog is in retrieve mode, that is a major command it doesn’t matter how many birds that dog puts in the air or how far he chases them, h...

Joe Amatulli

This is a good subject and I think I need to jump in. First if you do not relocate your dog you are admitting to a fault, the same as going to the extreme to avoid a back, so unless it is a case of “there is no way of getting a bird out or the dog is pointed into a fence that you can’t get on the ot...

Joe Amatulli

Having a dog get bird crazy may work, but may also give you more problems later, like when it’s time to break the dog. What you need to do (and this works for a multitude of problems), find yourself a pro or a buddy that is bird working a bunch of dogs. Stake the dog out in the middle of the other d...

Joe Amatulli

Saturday 2/25/12 1A - Uodibar' Blue Gold Hayley Killam 1B - Snowy River Bad News Biscuit Chase/Mark Verdoorn 2A - BDK's Break the Bank Keith Richardson 2B - Cutter's Last Testament Tom Davis 3A - BDK's Rag's to Riches Keith Richardson 3B - Quijano's Little Buddy David Quijanos 4A - Lonewolf's Huachu...

Joe Amatulli

Bring your dog out to ND in late December. We will see how she does. HAHAHAHAHA! Why would I go hunting somewhere that isn't as good as I have it 1 mile from town? You don't get to choose where we go. Well it looks like the rules have changed, AGAIN. Are we looking for the best bird dog or the most...

Joe Amatulli

If you were a betting type, what would you do with your money in this situation? Take the most winning bird dog in the country in AA. (for that year) Put him in a competition with meat dogs in SD, Oklahoma, Idaho, etc. throughout the country on Phez, quail, chukar, Ruffs, etc. The competition is si...

Joe Amatulli

Heard that Dohse had a slammer in the 3rd with Lady, 5 finds, big forward race, 2 limb finds. Sound like they are all playing for 2nd.

Joe Amatulli

Trialers are the worst kind of arrogant. Complain about numbers, then complain about a rule that would probably effect absolutely nothing at all. How on earth can you comment on something you know nothing about, other than you are just plain ignorant! Are there arrogant people in field trials, sure...

Joe Amatulli

Passing a test is what I had to do in school, much of what they taught me has little to nothing to do with what I needed to succeed in life. Competing and winning a field trial has more to do with living life, after all we have to compete every day, be it for a job, a pay check, the girl of your dre...

Joe Amatulli

I am a bit surprised on some of the responses on this thread! Who does it heart? That’s an easy question to answer if you have ever judged a national championship and had to watch dog after dog of A. had absolutely NO chance of winning and B. had absolutely No business being there. Trust me it’s no ...

Joe Amatulli

Jkh, if you are happy with an 80/90 Lbs. dog that hunts with his nose on the ground, points every mouse in the field, is tripping over is tongue after 15 minutes, points like a wet rag, will not leave your feet, takes all day to retrieve a bird out of cold water, is more interested in chasing fur th...

Joe Amatulli

Vern and Humphers, where do you think the white came from in your dogs, the tail, the intensity on point and the body structure, the stamina, you guys aren’t trying to say, that it came from Germany, are you. I agree some guys did it to improve the breed, but there were and still are a number that d...

Joe Amatulli

Exodus 20:5 As far as stories of which dog is half pointer or all pointer, I've heard the nearly identical story told several times, with only the name of the accused dog changed. It seems odd to me, also that it's always a big name champion male dog who stands accused. Was never a ringer female us...

Joe Amatulli

Well Danny and Bernee, you know that I totally agree. The worst part of all this is that two super great people like Jim and Kathleen are the once that are going to get the worst of this. Maybe a letter campaign or a petition, it’s worth a try. CC what on earth are you trying to say! Your insistence...

Joe Amatulli

Dan and Coop, you guys are missing the point. Someone with enough dimes can basically destroy field trials as a whole. Like I said you will be hard pressed to find any pointing breed that has NOT been cross bred including pointers. That is why the AKC needs to do away with the Q registration, but al...

Joe Amatulli

Ned, no cheating is NOT okay. You miss three important points to this, first; Yates had nothing to do with Havoc’s grand sire (and for that matter it was a litter maid to the grand sire) and he was not the one that cheated, but he is the one that is paying the consequences. Second; I strongly doubt ...

Joe Amatulli

Vegas just to set the record straight, no Havoc’s titles have not been pulled, but been put on hold. The AKC is reviewing the whole Q thing and depending on what they do, will determine what happens to his titles. Personally I think the whole thing stinks and the guy that dropped a dime on Yates (wh...

Joe Amatulli

Hey it’s the mouth from the south! Well James you know I sure did like that little bitch of yours, but her record was way short of the all time best 21 championship wins and 12 championship runner-ups. Regardless I would have taken her home in a heartbeat and would have won a heck of a lot more cham...

Joe Amatulli

Well Jim it looks like I was wrong I honestly didn’t think that this was going to go over very well. I was told about some of what you posted, but not all. I will say again 70 to 80% of what the dog becomes is what you put into the dog. The only thing that I would like to know is was it done to impr...

Joe Amatulli

I haven’t spoken to Jim yet, still too early where he lives. I do know a lot of what he knows and as far as I am concerned it means nothing because 70 to 80 present of what the dog becomes is what you put into him. Casey hasn’t Rusty been dead for a good 25-30 years and DNA testing has only been for...

Joe Amatulli

I am not going to comment on this right now, but boy you guys sure do have it totally wrong on Rusty. The only thing that I will say at this point is that there is very little actual Rusty blood out there and very little of it would clear DNA resting. Jim I think I know what you are about to write ...

Joe Amatulli

Wow Eddy must be laughing his head off with what you guys have posted about Rusty. Nice trophy room. Playing Seal Team Six on the computer with your buddies doesn't make you a Navy Seal. LOL I won't argue the dogs above won at the games but not my idea of what a GSP is. To each there own. Not my dog...

Joe Amatulli

ElhewPointer wrote:
Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:Not like a pointer? Ok so what to you makes one look like a pointer? color,head,style,tail,over all conformation,movement?

Ones that win. HAHAHA

Very good point!

Dump subject! Impossible to answer by anyone that knows anything about dogs as a whole.

Joe Amatulli

If the dogs in question do not appear to be purebred, an impure breeding complaint can be made to the Impure Breeding Committee, which will open an inquiry and take appropriate action. Knine what you may not be understanding is that few if any dogs will test a pure. This is a screw up and we need t...

Joe Amatulli

So in effect by doing what the AKC has done it is now legal to breed to pointers and 3 generation later you will have a pure bred GSP. I am a realest and will and do call a spade, a spade. The facts are that virtually every field bred pointing dog has been mixed with something else, whether it was d...

Joe Amatulli

The AKC screwed up big on this, first of all if you read this you can now legally breed to another breed and you will, 3 generations later be a pure breed. The other, and what is the biggest problem is that people bred to dogs that were properly registered by the AKC and the AKC now comes back years...

Joe Amatulli

First we breed to pointers and then we give them drug. Of course we do, how else can we possibly do all the winning that we do. After all if you don’t cheat how else are you going to beat all those guys that work so hard? What we give the dogs are the same pills that they give race horses to run fas...

Joe Amatulli

I give up also!!!!!! Why is it that people that don’t have dogs that point or run with a high tail all say, “Dogs don’t use their tails to find birds, or I like the old style FLAT tail, or Judges shouldn’t throw dogs out that point with low tails, or, or, or, or. Well I give up, you get running thos...

Joe Amatulli

I think what Joe was getting at is, it is great to ask questions. You'll never learn if you don't, but there are a lot of people that are still at a lower level of experiences, training and hunting so take their advice with a grain of salt. Unfortunatly, on the computer, it is hard to tell who's be...

Joe Amatulli

The best way is to go out and watch, talk to the people that have been doing this for years. Starting 5/6/11 at Ionia Michigan the NGSPA Region 4 holds its championship and it has 2 AKC trials at each end. If you want to see some excellent GSPs run in both the championships and the week end trials, ...

Joe Amatulli

No doubt Sunny belongs on that list of some of the best. I also have to put him at the TOP of the biggest screwed at a national championship. One of the greatest all age performances I have ever seen was at the GSPCA nationals, it was a shame that the judges didn’t recognize it. I think I judged Raz...

Joe Amatulli

Without getting into details, if you had a judge that showed a strong and deliberate bias toward a breed, or a dog, or a particular individual, can a field trial committee remove him as a judge? I am also asking this because I was involved a number of years ago where the stake manger was contemplati...

Joe Amatulli

I think I know the answer, but I just want to make sure. Can an advertized judge be removed by a club in either American Field or AKC and if so how and under what circumstance?

Joe Amatulli

Vegas some of us are not sitting in front of a computer screen waiting for you or anyone else to ask a question and Doug’s answers is correct, that number is both winner and runner up. For your information there have only been 2 dogs that got to 30 championships, Selina 21 championships and 12 runne...

Joe Amatulli

Well thanks fellas, Selina was truly one in a million and I doubt that I will every have one or see one of that caliber again. I am surprised on the lack of comments on this thread, but I will throw some more names out there. There have only been 5 dogs that have won 20 or more championships, Selina...

Joe Amatulli

The best handlers know their dogs (prime), the course, their scouts, and what the judges are looking for. The ugly handler comes to a trial unprepared (sometimes I wonder if they even know the dogs name), rides only their brace, and believes they should automatically win if they get their dog around...

Joe Amatulli

One of the greatest All Age performances was Abby when she won the All Age at the Hun, in that case I was one of the judges and all I can say is WOW. Not only did the dog get the job done, but Dennis did an outstanding job handling her.

Joe Amatulli

Ultra did you read what you wrote before you posted it. If the dog did not win consistently, how on earth can you want to call the dog “one of the best”. One great performance or for that matter a hand full of great performances, does not make a dog great. I will not argue that most likely the great...

Joe Amatulli

Can I suggest that you guys comment on dogs you have seen and that you know. Some of the dogs suggested thus far wouldn’t even make it in the top 25, let alone “Some of the best ever”. The all time championship winner was Tulli’s Scatback with 33. I believe KJ’s High Tailing Lucy and Tarkas both had...

Joe Amatulli

This is a funny topic only because I was used as an example for both sides. A number of years ago a GSP pro proposed that he should not have to run against amateurs that are as competitive as I am (no amateurs in open championships) and an amateur proposed that there should be another stake so he wo...

Joe Amatulli

Brenda I’ll go one better, I totally agree that it has become way too easy finish a GSP, but I believe it’s the fault of the AKC/GSPCA, we have some clubs in the northeast that have no business running a trail. The grounds they run on are extremely small and what’s worse the course is set up in such...

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David I am having a very difficult time believing that you believe, walking trials are comparable to horseback, I know you know better. Are there dogs that can and have excelled in both, absolutely, but like Robert said, many horseback dogs can compete in walking, but the reverse is rarely true. Jus...

Joe Amatulli

I’m not going to get into what dog trainers make, all I know is that if they don’t do it for the love of the dogs, you need to find another trainer. But getting back to the reason for this thread, what you guys are saying is that it’s okay if A-Rod went back and played on a high school team or Payto...

Joe Amatulli

I don’t think you understanding what Tommy is asking. A number of years ago when I was just getting started there was a first rate GSP that was very tough to beat. She had just won the nationals and the owner ran her in a Wiem trial, which was on his pros training grounds. I saw it as a complete dis...

Joe Amatulli

Tommy that is a very good point, if I won 90% of the time than it would without a doubt be, shame on me, but although I may be more competitive than most, I do not win anywhere near 90%. However I have run and won pointer trials, but here in the north east, as I was told by a pointer judge, owner an...

Joe Amatulli

Oh ya Brandon and Jim that’s 10 national titles with different 4 dogs, 11 if you count AKC.

Joe Amatulli

Well I see you guys have been busy. Ron let me first start by apologizing, my posts are not about you and your dog, I am sure she is very capable and deserves the title and without a doubt you should be proud. All I am saying, is why do we do this? Well it’s to determine the best for breeding, wheth...

Joe Amatulli

Alright well let me see if I understand what some of you people are saying. It does not matter how the title was acquired, even if it’s at the limited competition, the fact that the dog has the title is enough. Well than I will ask the question, does this do anything to improve the breed and what do...

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