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EK Cottontop

I had a discussion with a friend about the influence of the Shinback dogs, specifically Blick and Kitt.

So I am curious, what do you believe has been the impact of NFC Blick V Shinback HOF and sister FC/NAFC Ammertal's Kitt V Shinback HOF on GSPs?

I look forward to your responses. Thank you.

EK Cottontop

I will post some more pictures, including Valkyrie, soon.
Thank you.

EK Cottontop

I am considering breeding two of my personal hunting dogs, Luke and Valkyrie. They are both great gun dogs and family pets. They are out of some of the finest, most well-known dogs in Shorthair history; proven performers and producers. This breeding should produce dogs that could compete on any leve...

EK Cottontop

I was trying to find out more about Clearrun's Abe VD Wildburg. He is out of DC Ziel Von Feinschmecker and Randy Mogar's VC Clearrun's Freda VD Wildburg. I appreciate any help.

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EK Cottontop

Thank you for the lead and the advice. Let me explain my statement. All my life, my dogs have been first and foremost pets and companions. I like having the option of breeding, however, to keep myself in the type of dogs I like.

I have heard several good things about Erin's. Thanks again.

EK Cottontop

He would be pet, personal gundog, NSTRA player, and possible breeding prospect.

EK Cottontop

I recall a gentleman that bred pointers near the West Frankfort, IL area. He had dogs bred from Herb and Bill Holmes' Gunsmoke dogs and Robert Wehle's Elhew dogs. I have lost the contact info for him that I had several years ago. I was hoping someone out there would be familiar with him, know if he ...

EK Cottontop

That is an awesome kennel. What would you charge to build one in TN?

EK Cottontop

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing, Kninebirddog.

EK Cottontop

I was taught the King Theory of breeding which is the sire of the sire should be the grand-sire of the dam. You can also go with the dam of dam is the grand-dam of the sire. I am not opposed to half-sibling matings either. As mentioned above, the point is to double up the good and the bad. Then, kee...

EK Cottontop

+1 on the sand. When I switched to sand the quail seemed to look better and were healthier.

EK Cottontop

Thank you for being a GREAT dad!!! Awesome pictures.

EK Cottontop

4 GSPs 2 males-2 females
1 male Mastiff (to protect strangers from the GSPs!)

I have plans for two more GSPs within a year or so. Then I'll be good for awhile.

EK Cottontop

Awesome!! Congrats, Andy and Dez!!

EK Cottontop

Thanks, Brenda. I ended up talking to Roger yesterday. He mentioned your name and brag on you quite a bit.

EK Cottontop

I am looking for additional information on a breeding. It was a breeding between Redstag's Viking V. Valleydoe and Esser's Abby V. D. Wildburg. It looks like this took place at least twice. With litters being born once on 5/22/2004 resulting in Essers Boots VD Wildburg and again on 5/26/2005 resulti...

EK Cottontop

I totally agree with Stoneface. I have a few friends that are big Elhew fans. I have been around GSPs since I was two. We all torment each other like a Ford vs. Chevy deal, but deep down (now, don't tell them) I really like their Elhews. They are awesome bird hunters, but equally as good house pets....

EK Cottontop

Thanks, Vision. I had forgotten about Abe. Mayfield has some great stories about him. Don Lee's have been crossed with some Moesgaard back several generations. Others that are currently on the circuit have as well. I am not saying Moesgaard is bad, I was just looking at more pure Greif type bred dog...

EK Cottontop

I am a fan of the old Greif, Wildburg, and Wasserschling dogs. That being said, I have heard many people say that those lines are not very good on their own. One of the more popular combinations was Greif with Moesgaard. Several older western trialers have told me they had to add Moesgaard to be com...

EK Cottontop

I have spoke to Tom and I hope to breed her (Val) to Bear the next time she comes in heat. Tom is a great guy and he has done a great job with Bear. I have been meaning to post pictures of her and Bear with a litter pedigree to see if there is any interest. I would like to find a heavier Doc dog to ...

EK Cottontop

I had a Doc granddaughter that was a great dog. Her mother was out of a Doc-Wildburg breeding. I have heard a great deal of positive comments about her mother and her siblings. I like what I have, but I feel like Doc would add to it without starting over.

Thanks again for your help.

EK Cottontop

I was hoping to find something within three generations. The Pipeline stuff interested me, because some of those dogs had Doc on the top side and his sister on the bottom side. I was trying to distance myself from the Hustler stuff. I appreciate your help. By the way, I have family in central Illa-n...

EK Cottontop

Does anyone know if there are any breeders linebreeding off Chicoree Hickory Doc or if there are dogs on the ground that have him fairly close up? I appreciate your help.

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EK Cottontop

I know Ed Bruce, Jameson Parker (Simon and Simon) do and I think Tom Selleck as well. Love the show, Scott. Thanks!!!!

EK Cottontop

Here it is:

http://www.symvet.com/Semen_Available.html

EK Cottontop

I have always heard that the "King Theory" was the most productive method. It states that the sire of the sire should also be the grandsire of the dam, exactly like you have. There are GSP lines that have followed this for many generations with great success.

EK Cottontop

My dog Belle is about the size of a large beagle. She didn't seem to be any different from her siblings when she was eight weeks old. Her parents were also within breed standards and from what I understand all her siblings ended up normal sized. She comes from great bloodlines. She is a great dog an...

EK Cottontop

Sorry, Brenda. If you don't mind my asking, what positive traits did Lancer's Answer bring to the table and what negatives did you see? I have a fair amount of Lancer D behind my female, some Shinback and Wildburg, and a dash of Trekker. I like the idea of the fresh dose of Lancer D and Wildburg tha...

EK Cottontop

No worries. I appreciate the effort.

EK Cottontop

Snip's---Thank you for the reply. I had found an older post of yours where you mentioned that he was an only puppy. That got me curious. I have also seen pictures of some of the dogs from your Lancer and Cricket litter. A friend of mine tells some great stories about a dog named Dixie, whose father ...

EK Cottontop

Has anyone had first hand experiences with Richard and Dot Kern's dog, DC Timberdoodle Lancers Answer or any information about him beyond what is written in Maxwell's and McKowen's books? I have heard he had a great disposition and was awesome in the field. I appreciate any information. Thank you. M...

EK Cottontop

We used to hunt BLM land just southwest of Bakersfield for chukar and quail. We also hunted outside of Victorville and Apple Valley.

EK Cottontop

You are correct. I found that spelling in an article, but the AKC site has it as Blu. Thank you.

EK Cottontop

Does anyone have any information on Beier's Misty Blue? She was a DC out of Beier's Evolution, but I have not been able to find much information about her.
Thank you for your help.

EK Cottontop

Blick V Shinback, Erick V Enzstrand, and Timberdoodle's Lancer Answer would be on my short list.

EK Cottontop

We are all very lucky to being living at a time when there are so many great writers. My absolute favorite would be Mike Gaddis, who I was introduced to by folks on this forum. Ben O. Williams would be a close second.
Thanks for a great topic!!!

EK Cottontop

Thanks, Mountaindogs. I live in Jefferson County about 40 miles NE of Knoxville. I want to get more involved with GSPs and connect with more people who I can learn from. I appreciate the opportunity and will send you a PM.

EK Cottontop

Brenda,
I think I have the links fixed. I am a Mac man living in PC world and sometimes I get lost in the translation.
Thank you for the contact information. I will put it to do good use.

EK Cottontop

Great pictures, Brenda. I was curious if this was just a group of friends meeting to train together or part of a club or group? I live in East Tennessee and would love to find a group nearby to train and visit with.

Thank you.

EK Cottontop

Thank you for the great feedback so far. I grew up near Los Angeles and loved the idea of the wilderness and outdoors, but did not know anyone who hunted or fished until I was much older. I had to experience hunting and fishing vicariously through what books I could read. I figured there are young p...

EK Cottontop

When I was younger I read everything written by Jim Kjelgaard, who was best known for Big Red, a story of an Irish Setter. He also wrote several other great dog stories. I also read "Where the Red Fern Grows" and "Summer of the Monkeys" by Wilson Rawls featuring coonhounds. I am curious what you all...

EK Cottontop

Maggie was out of Graf and Esser's Candy V D Wildburg. The avatar picture was taken in '94. She was a terrific hunting dog as well as a great house dog. She was spoiled rotten, but deserved it. Sorry to hear of your loss as well. I have been around shorthairs my whole life. Everyone I have been arou...

EK Cottontop

http://www.vomriverwoods.com/pages/graf.html

The above address is for a page about Graf on Vom Riverwoods' website. My avatar is a Graf daughter. She passed a little over a year ago. She was an awesome shorthair. I hope they have some info that will help.

EK Cottontop

I have been around GSPs my entire life, so it would be hard to change, but I have always liked Weims. Lately I have read some stuff on Welsh Springer Spaniels and wouldn't mind learning more about them.

EK Cottontop

We have a Mastiff and two younger female German Shorthairs. Everyone thinks the Mastiff would rule because he is older and much bigger, but that is not true. The shorthairs play rough with him and he loves it. We take turns letting them come in the house, but all are great house dogs and great watch...

EK Cottontop

I am looking for information about a breeder in Thousand Oaks, CA in 1971. I don't know their name, but think they lived on Coventry Court. My grandpa received a GSP that year, but did not register it and I am trying to track pedigree information. I would appreciate any help anyone can provide. Than...

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