Agreed, much ado about nothing.Sharon wrote:No matter the age of the dog , when you just start letting it 'go" and start training , it is a pup . Let it be a pup. The screaming will stop soon.
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- Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:24 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: frustration screaming pointer pup.
- Replies: 13
- Views: 7442
Re: frustration screaming pointer pup.
- Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:44 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Another recall- River Run
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9805
Re: Another recall- River Run
How do we know no dogs were harmed, because Cargill says so? In a years time there very well could have been deaths but attributed to some other cause for all we know, a years time is completely unacceptable for something like this to go on, worse is that some defending this were calling for Diamond...
- Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:00 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Quail hunters just go away...
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2594
Re: Quail hunters just go away...
The problem is we Quial hunters HAVE been trying to get things done, they have studied Quail to death for the last two decades and just repeat the same old BS year after yearm all the while ignoring any positive results that go against their so called science that has failed time and again. We have ...
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:01 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Endurance Question
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4768
Re: Endurance Question
Genetics. All the conditioning in the world will not help some dogs and others can go hard for hours with little conditioning at all, the Pointer mentioned earlier is exactly like many, MANY or the dogs I have worked from one line. heck outta the gate not worth a dang down the stretch and no amount ...
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:52 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Whats your take on a backyard kennel??
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1946
Re: Whats your take on a backyard kennel??
My # 1 and #2 dogs have the run of the yard and house all the time, never any ill affects on either of them in 17 years with the oldest.
- Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:12 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123372
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
So this morning I was talking to my wife about the arguement here and I thought I would let you guys in on her take. Keep in mind that she is a 1st grade teacher and knows only the basics of bird hunting. Here is her take: I think style should be more important. (**insert my suprised look because m...
- Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:55 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123372
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
However, any format that depends on wild birds or multiple courses, for example, will be inherently unfair to dogs that are not chosen to run at the time of day when birds are moving or are chosen to run on a course which does not have as many birds in residence or which has more difficult terrain t...
- Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:52 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123372
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
Ali was the Greatest of ALL TIME Boxer but Birddogz the Greatest of ALL TIME birdhunter & owns the GREATEST of ALL TIME bird dogs. :lol: Just ask him!! Nothing else to say as that says it ALL!! :lol: Yeah got a feelin this is the same old boy who's wonder dogs got it handed to em by an 8 month old ...
- Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:56 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123372
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
The best bird dogs find the most birds CONSISTENTLY, no matter how they look getting there or how they look pointing them... That says it all right there. As one who has made the full circle from hunter to hunter/trialer to once again just a hunter I'll speak my perspective on the deal. In a trial ...
- Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:57 am
- Forum: Hunting
- Topic: Oklahoma birds
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2910
Re: Oklahoma birds
Okemah? For Quail? Not a good option to be honest the state East of I-35 has been dismal for Quail for many years and this year is no better, worse than last year honestly. I have grounds I have worked dogs on for years due North of Okemah and there are very few wild birds there nor have there been ...
- Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:25 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: From Blinking to outright shutdown
- Replies: 48
- Views: 11762
Re: From Blinking to outright shutdown
Take the dog to SD and let er hunt, ya have the dog equal of an 8 year old thats bored as heck with what it's been doing and sounds a little confused to boot. Plus maybe out smarting you a bit. Lay off the training and worry about what a bird dog is bred to do, not what you can train it to do. Coupl...
- Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:43 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Derby age in AF?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8537
Re: Derby age in AF?
The AF Derby age was modeled after the system used for race horses. Pointer derbies are a different deal. The same "magic" that has pups being born on Jan. 1, also has them born to a dam whose litter is whelped in 2012, so they can run in 2014 as broke derbies. Not to mention sired by dogs dead for...
- Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:40 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Year old pup dies of kidney failure while being trained
- Replies: 46
- Views: 17245
Re: Year old pup dies of kidney failure while being trained
Sure like to see DNA on this guys next winning dog, lots and LOTS of dirty poll in the dog biz and this is just another example of the kind of crap I saw over the years dealing with so called reputable trainers. Ya could name names but course if ya did I am sure some fan boy would come on and defend...
- Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:15 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Who says pointers don't like water.
- Replies: 76
- Views: 20216
Re: Who says pointers don't like water.
If y'all don't believe that there are some actual strong tendencies that are breed specific, then we all have been wasting our time for the last 150 years. I would not want to train most longtails to sit, hup, handle on the whistle....can some do it?...well, heck yes...I guess I could get a raccoon...
- Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:06 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Field Trials rigged?
- Replies: 96
- Views: 26073
Re: Field Trials rigged?
Well I see that the http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/RaulMonkey/Animated/beating-a-dead-horse.gif still goes on :lol: :lol: Some are fair and the types matters as much as anything, thats second hand in some venues I never ran in but from guys who have and do win none the less. Best advice I co...
- Tue May 18, 2010 2:41 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Has anyone ever seen anything like this?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 14427
Re: Has anyone ever seen anything like this?
Not 100% sure. Could have been a bug bite that become infected or a cut that got infected. Hard to tell for sure. Just saw the pic and it is identical to what one of mines nose looked like when she stuck her nose in a jellowjacket nest. Took about three weeks to heal up real well but no pemanent da...
- Tue May 18, 2010 2:38 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Any one give their dog electrolytes?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8032
Re: Any one give their dog electrolytes?
i always went with the premise that since dogs dont dissipate heat thru sweating, they dont lose electrolytes like humans do during exercise. sure they use them for muscle function, etc, but they dont need to be replaced like in humans. as always, i could be wrong!! :D I'm sure someone will tell ya...
- Thu May 13, 2010 8:04 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Bill's Hustler
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2722
Re: Bill's Hustler
The new law applies to anyone who owns more than 11 unfixed females, it is supposedly to take care of the puppy mills but that's BS, if they want to close them down they know where they are at already. It will hurt more good breeders with the requirements in it than it will hurt the mills.
- Tue May 11, 2010 9:33 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Bill's Hustler
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2722
Re: Bill's Hustler
Sooner Express and Special Delivery Girl Special Delivery Girl was a truly special dog, she was born and bred at Cliffs place and studded to Sooner on a puppy deal that produced a great litter of pups. Old Bill is one who will never get the credit he deserves for what he has done in the dog world an...
- Tue May 11, 2010 9:29 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Have You Heard???
- Replies: 16
- Views: 6788
Re: Have You Heard???
Check this article out on pet foods interesting short read on the dog food biz and what has actually known, seems very little.
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- Mon May 10, 2010 10:21 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Touching a dog while on point?
- Replies: 81
- Views: 21274
Re: Touching a dog while on point?
And someone else sounds like a bitter little trollRich Heaton wrote:Wow,,,,, sounds like somebody's got a "man crush" on Ferrill.
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- Tue May 04, 2010 8:53 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Touching a dog while on point?
- Replies: 81
- Views: 21274
Re: Touching a dog while on point?
Guess Ferrel Miller ain't got it huh :p Pretty obvious to me anyway that the technique he used (quickly rubbing the tail up and down) has a soothing effect on pups and staunches them up.... Yep he's one I just was talking about along with others, but hey what do they know, they aint on the internet...
- Tue May 04, 2010 8:50 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Touching a dog while on point?
- Replies: 81
- Views: 21274
Re: Touching a dog while on point?
If touching a dog on point is enough to distract it then how much intensity does it have?
I've watched quite a few guys do everything from simple stroking of the sides to pickng the dog up with no issues at all so no problem with me on this one.
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- Tue May 04, 2010 8:38 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Looking for names of dog haulers
- Replies: 19
- Views: 14777
Re: Looking for names of dog haulers
Problem I found with airlines is last year the standards changed. Adult dogs depending on breed cannot ship via air, the dog MUST be able to stand erect without the head touching the crate which means even for a small Pointer I had to buy a crate designed for a Great Dane. I guess it all depends on...
- Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:29 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Looking for names of dog haulers
- Replies: 19
- Views: 14777
Re: Looking for names of dog haulers
Problem I found with airlines is last year the standards changed. Adult dogs depending on breed cannot ship via air, the dog MUST be able to stand erect without the head touching the crate which means even for a small Pointer I had to buy a crate designed for a Great Dane. With airlines you also hav...
- Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:33 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Bacon grease
- Replies: 37
- Views: 18575
Re: Bacon grease
Just saw that on Food Network, talk about overkill. Fat dunked in fat and fried, bet it tastes gooooood though.tommyboy72 wrote:Only thing better than bacon is chicken fried bacon.
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- Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:42 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Bacon grease
- Replies: 37
- Views: 18575
Re: Bacon grease
Been watching dogs be fed bacon drippings for as long as I can remember, we call it a skillet meal around our house which includes a couple of eggs and some wheat bread. Average age the dogs lived to is 14 by my best recollection and the oldest was 17. Bacon, it does a body good. ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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- Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:39 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Looking for names of dog haulers
- Replies: 19
- Views: 14777
Re: Looking for names of dog haulers
I have used these guys in the past, Redwing Hound haulers Chuck Thomas. 208-263-6007, Cell 509-680-2602 . They did a good job for me both times and were MUCH easier than the airlines to deal with.
- Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:29 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Is your gun dog a leaner?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6473
Re: Is your gun dog a leaner?
I've seen many do this to think it's a dominance thing, kinda like the foot stepping business some freak out about. Sometimes a leans just a lean.
- Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:17 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: The ridiclious use of the term "close working NSTRA lines."
- Replies: 241
- Views: 81998
Re: The ridiclious use of the term "close working NSTRA lines."
Hey Birddogz what's your first name? Seriously.
- Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:33 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: The ridiclious use of the term "close working NSTRA lines."
- Replies: 241
- Views: 81998
Re: The ridiclious use of the term "close working NSTRA lines."
Funny outside Michigan and Iowa I have hunted all those places with dogs that hunt at least twice what you say is useless for hunting and came back with full bags most times. Wonder what the difference is our experiences on the exact same lands are :lol: More I wonder why Oklahoma land that is usual...
- Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:14 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: The ridiclious use of the term "close working NSTRA lines."
- Replies: 241
- Views: 81998
Re: The ridiclious use of the term "close working NSTRA lines."
Lot closer to a golf course in those NSTRA pics than anything that I have ever hunted, my training YARD is rougher than those pics I looked at and no FT course I have ever ran on or rode gallery in looked like that. When the NBHA used bird fields those were rougher than the worst of any pic on any A...
- Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:11 am
- Forum: Hunting
- Topic: huntin Texas
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3221
Re: huntin Texas
r brady where did you hunt in texas? that is the best report i have heard from anyone this year Agreed on that! I know people who hunted from around Canadian, to Wichita Falls, to Albany, to the Big Bend area no one had that kind of reports. Many guide services even shut down early, or in some case...
- Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:42 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: The ridiclious use of the term "close working NSTRA lines."
- Replies: 241
- Views: 81998
Re: The ridiclious use of the term "close working NSTRA lines."
All of that makes sense if the AF went on to ban all retrieving and live ammo at any trial that is sanctions. It didn't do that; the AF continues to sanction over 100 trials a year where live birds are shot. ???????? And to which trials do you refer Dave? The last 3 years in NBHA, that last AF sanct...
- Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:01 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Opinions wanted on Top Quality dry dog food
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4926
Re: Opinions wanted on Top Quality dry dog food
+100topher40 wrote:Pick a feed that your dogs do well on and stick with it, then dont listen to a single thing you hear in here concerning dog food! :roll:
- Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:19 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Diamond Hi-Energy Users
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12098
Re: Diamond Hi-Energy Users
Shadow the towns Shawnee Oklahoma but I don't have the number. thanks man- I just called them- if I buy 20 bags or more they'll discount it even more- Yep they have a kennel discount, helps a bunch for sure when ya feed a whole pack of dogs. Arthur the store manager is a real good guy to deal with....
- Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:59 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Diamond Hi-Energy Users
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12098
Re: Diamond Hi-Energy Users
Shadow the towns Shawnee Oklahoma but I don't have the number.
- Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:51 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Diamond Hi-Energy Users
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12098
Re: Diamond Hi-Energy Users
16.49 at the local TSC, but that is due to a price match with the local feed store. The manager at TSC told me he will not be beaten by anyone when it comes to procong Diamond feeds period, he has dropped all the Diamond formulas prices including the Taste of the Wild I feed. I love competition like...
- Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:24 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Miller Bred Pointers
- Replies: 54
- Views: 26334
Re: Miller Bred Pointers
Same here, I will take 50 Miller dogs to work any day. Easy, biddable dogs every last one I have ver had, I even foot hunt em every yearYawallac wrote:That hasn't been my experience. They are some of the easiest dogs I have ever trained.I honestly can say, a Miller bred dog isn't for the fate hearted.
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- Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:17 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship
- Replies: 108
- Views: 42906
Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship
Does anyone else out there believe we have set the english pointer breed back by not allowing pointer bitches to be bred to Ch Miller's White Powder? The best dog i have seen on the ground was out of Powder. What a dam shame. Seems to have hurt the English Pointer breed IMO. I agree 100%. I never u...
- Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:06 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: which would you rather train
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2776
Re: which would you rather train
they may drive you nuts in training and competition but the usually make the best bird dogs.
Perfect description!!!
Perfect description!!!
- Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:57 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: which would you rather train
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2776
Re: which would you rather train
Smart dog any day. The other kind make great robotic dogs for those who like that kind of animal though.
- Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:03 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: need a trainer after season ends
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6748
Re: need a trainer after season ends
Matt I just saw this post and can give you an excellent trainer at Boys Ranch right outside of Amarillo. His name is Adrian Jackson and he works at the Boys Ranch facility and lives on the grounds but owns a kennel that is only about 5 or 6 miles from his house. Give me a call if you want his numbe...
- Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:34 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: For you pointer guys!
- Replies: 49
- Views: 14868
Re: For you pointer guys!
If I remember right it's not the first time so it's no shocker. Dougs a good guy and deserves whatever he gets.
- Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:37 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: for together- train a natural
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6467
Re: for together- train a natural
If I'm understanding you guys right, if me personally had a dog that young who has shown me all that what you people call natural ability I would probably be inclined to get rid of it. Now hold on dont anybody go getting their hackles ruffled. I've been at this for awhile and it's been my experienc...
- Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:35 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: puppy price
- Replies: 201
- Views: 51343
Re: puppy price
It appears that most of the people who are saying that over 500 or so is insane etc for a pupppy, are attempting to sell pups themselves and having difficulty even getting their 500 or so. One member said that they usually get 500 but a buyer wanted one particular pup so bad and paid 800 for it and...
- Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:24 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: puppy price
- Replies: 201
- Views: 51343
Re: puppy price
First, Field Trialers believe that the only way to prove that you have a great dog is through trialing. Second, Non-trialers believe that the only way to prove you have a great dog is through hunting. You left out a third option: the best proof of a dog is to be successful at both trialing and hunt...
- Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:13 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: puppy price
- Replies: 201
- Views: 51343
Re: puppy price
The only way that I know to prove you have a top shelf dog, is field trails and like I said everything else is blah, blah, blah. :lol: :lol: :lol: No it means your dogs play the "game" better is all and thats it. I have had my sickle tailed old dog on the ground with three, 3, FT Champions from SD a...
- Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:13 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: puppy price
- Replies: 201
- Views: 51343
Re: puppy price
No risk AT ALL buying a 500 dollar pup and I will GUARANTEE you i can show you far more people who paid big money that were dissapointed than those who paid legit prices for their dogs, and I don't mean that the cheaper dogs were lesser but good enough either. Some people like to act as if because t...
- Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:11 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: THought to help the sport grow
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5019
Re: THought to help the sport grow
How am I mixing anything? Without the lands for kids to hunt wild birds on we have no wild bird hunting, or am I missing a way to hunt. I am not worried about training grounds I know guys with just a couple dozen who make pretty passable dogs every year on em. So tell me again how I am mixing issues...