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- Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:05 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: 4 year old Setter
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4185
Re: 4 year old Setter
There's a little bit more to working a 4 year old puppy. Birds can help, and will. But you have to watch him and his actions with the bird. More birds, might, might get his head racing, a lot......and that will overlay to the next find, and next find. Where are you from? Thanks Jonesy
- Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:26 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Why won't this backing dog (machine) work?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3445
Re: Why won't this backing dog (machine) work?
I believe so on 2 sets of batteries. Might look n see if D size is available n lithium at Walmart. If not will be at radio shack. Were you able to find other battery on top I spoke of? You're welcome to pm. Thanks Jonesy
- Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:36 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Why won't this backing dog (machine) work?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3445
Re: Why won't this backing dog (machine) work?
Underneath the carrying handle there's a long battery that you need to charge. I charged under 6 volt area on my charger. Plus, Walmart now sells lithium 9 volt. These are for electronics under the dog. Hope this helps!! Thanks Jonesy
- Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:12 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Examples of "pressure"
- Replies: 16
- Views: 6536
Re: Examples of "pressure"
The sitting, in my opinion, isn't from pressure, its confusion. Most don't take the time to teach, its a "hurry up" and learn it, type of work. When you get, a/the sitting, you have gotta step back, and think, what haven't I shown, or why isn't the dog understanding what I am asking. It doesn't both...
- Thu May 12, 2016 7:04 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: VIDEO: Young Pup Learning to be Steady
- Replies: 13
- Views: 7367
Re: VIDEO: Young Pup Learning to be Steady
Your video posted, contradicts, everything, that you have said on, or about, the "Higgins Method". You also, are using the ecollar, to stop the dog, on the chase. If not, he/she wouldn't bark, nor, be wanting to do the sitting, when, it isn't allowed the chase. You tell the dog to flush, I guess, at...
- Wed May 11, 2016 6:59 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: VIDEO: Young Pup Learning to be Steady
- Replies: 13
- Views: 7367
Re: VIDEO: Young Pup Learning to be Steady
Mr. Higgins, I am curious why you are going back to the west method for your dog work. How come you have again switched away from the "Higgins Method"? Before, you tried to sell, that no dog ever needed the ecollar, pinch collar, or even a check cord. This dog here, has it all. Why doesn't your meth...
- Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:21 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: New to KC Help
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5335
Re: New to KC Help
Keep an open mind, on your training with a viz. The breed is smart, doesn't forget, nor forgive. Get with John Markham, he is VJohn on here, located in Manhatten. He is also a viz guy, and works with rescue group on the breed. He is a great guy, and loves the red dogs. He owns a nice bitch I worked ...
- Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:15 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: backing/honoring
- Replies: 37
- Views: 18363
Re: backing/honoring
I would set my training up, just like the trial. Brace mate wise, go to different area, than your working area. A lot of people tend to think, because the dog is at the home grounds, and its broke.....its gonna be broke, in other places. They will work into, being broke on the new grounds, but will ...
- Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:31 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: backing/honoring
- Replies: 37
- Views: 18363
Re: backing/honoring
Yea it can be a lot of check cord work. if the dog is broke on its game, your ecollar work, and everything else, is sound?? Right?? You sound like you have played with cord long enough, and the dog is sorta playing you now. See what I am saying? A lot of the good dogs, don't enjoy backing. But, with...
- Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:55 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: E collar and force fetching
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8972
Re: E collar and force fetching
The vid could help, and it might not. There is a lot of little steps, that could be missed by the handler. Giving the dog a little time, to cool its mind down, or getting it a little excited, because of the prior work, being to strong. Letting the dog walk around on the table, prior to starting thin...
- Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:13 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Let's see/or tell us what your favorite training tool is
- Replies: 35
- Views: 21442
Re: Let's see/or tell us what your favorite training tool is
I would say a check cord. I have worked an helped/shown, a lot of people with even just a cord. Rope, and or air hose, can be widely, and usually easily purchased. I will adjust my timing, and my hands, to help get done, what I need to get done. Thanks Jonesy
- Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:35 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: trainer for the casual hunter
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6039
Re: trainer for the casual hunter
The systems, should be taught, for any dog, at any level. Good hands, will allow the space, and help, the method fit the dog, not make the dog, fit the method. That is a big sentence. Thanks Jonesy
- Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:31 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Need help with retrieving and swimming
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3769
Re: Need help with retrieving and swimming
Will he retrieve a pigeon on the ground? Help him so he does......quail are to lil, and cant take much. The pigeons will help the dog use eyes, and once your ground work, is happening pretty well, go to water. It should overlay nicely. big thing when at water, start small, work into big. Give the do...
- Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:44 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: trainer for the casual hunter
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6039
Re: trainer for the casual hunter
It takes as long as it takes. You cant set a time on the work. You don't have a clue with the animal, how long its gonna be before, you can build the trust, and team work......between the dog and yourself. All you can really do, is work what you got, be fair, and patient. The rest will build. A dog ...
- Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:35 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Let's see/or tell us what your favorite training tool is
- Replies: 35
- Views: 21442
Re: Let's see/or tell us what your favorite training tool is
Check cord, Duct tape.
Check cord for the dog to assist, or help assist it.
Duct tape for the peoples mouths watching whats going on, and wanting to whoa the dog, and not realizing.....they are even doing it.
Thanks Jonesy
Check cord for the dog to assist, or help assist it.
Duct tape for the peoples mouths watching whats going on, and wanting to whoa the dog, and not realizing.....they are even doing it.
Good post also Mellar,Consistency and patience
Thanks Jonesy
- Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:31 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Need help with retrieving and swimming
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3769
Re: Need help with retrieving and swimming
Does the dog like birds? You can use electrical tape, and tape a wing of a pigeon to the body. Leave other wing loose. Pigeon will flap on the water, and most times, is all that it talks to get dog off the bank. The electrical tape, will pull off easy, and not harm the bird for re use. Thanks Jonesy
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:53 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Transitioning away from Check Cord
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3303
Re: Transitioning away from Check Cord
What you are seeing, with the cord off, is what I have mentioned on here as, "self employment. With the cord on, its all team, with it off, lol, screw you Dad. That's not a bad thing, its a very typical action from a dog, of any breed. If the check cord, is what it takes to help the dog act/re act, ...
- Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:51 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Huntsmith vs. Training with Mo
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4495
Re: Huntsmith vs. Training with Mo
You get into the method, that makes sense, and works for your thoughts. If you don't understand things, the dog will have hard time also. That's because of the presentation, with any method. With Mo, method, we have a group on Facebook, that I would be happy to get you into. It is all variations of ...
- Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:14 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Range question
- Replies: 26
- Views: 13013
Re: Range question
Every dog, has a comfort range. Every dog is different, so is comfort range. Expect that. The thing that I would focus on, is the rest of the dog. Is the dog running that big, to get away from you, or be an outlaw? Or, is it really hunting when running? OR, even, is it honestly finding that much, wh...
Re: A flagger
Sure either the check cord, or ecollar. Most depends on or where the dog is at in training, I am assuming here, the dog is pretty steady, or broke?? Sometimes, a dog needs the chase, and knock a little more. I have worked with the dog, and let it go up and find the bird, and just stood there, outta ...
Re: A flagger
Sounds like, they dog hasn't got the "knock" out of it yet. With both of your dogs doing the same thing. Just an opinion, on what you have written. The most common issue with flaggers, tends to be a dog, that's close to being, ready for the steady work. Or, a dog that has steadied, really fast, real...
- Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:39 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Good vizsla trainers in kc area?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3289
Re: Good vizsla trainers in kc area?
Lot of good trainers all over the united states. talk with people, ask questions, find a method the makes sense to you. That way, when they are trying to teach you, it'll make sense. Might talk with VJohn, John Markham, I did a seminar for him, few years back. John might know of some, in the area. H...
- Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:58 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Labrador training
- Replies: 20
- Views: 7907
Re: Labrador training
Whew, dog work, is dog work. You adjust to help every breed. You, sometimes have to let common sense over weigh the program a little.....to work threw the speed bump. Then, help the dog threw, and soon, you'll be back in swing of things. Start small and build to go big. If your dog is showing confus...
- Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:49 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Amateur trainer help
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3376
Re: Amateur trainer help
I'll second Mo's book. Vizsla's can be odd ducks at times. They mature very slowly, and don't forget, or forgive, who done what? Lol The good things about the book, and the method, we adjust to method to fit each dog individually. Every dog acts, thinks, and responds differently, to everything we do...
- Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:42 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Labrador training
- Replies: 20
- Views: 7907
Re: Labrador training
When you are changing areas, you are "in dogs mind" allowing a rule change. Man, its not got a thing to do with the ecollar work, its the teaching work. Back step just a little, and work the dog in a piece of the pasture, and then as dog gets back into the swing with the change, work down to the pon...
- Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:30 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Training ???s For a New/Older Pup...(and a New Trainer)
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4894
Re: Training ???s For a New/Older Pup...(and a New Trainer)
Maurice is a good one. He will help you learn, if you want to. You can also go to Facebook, and friend him. We have a very nice group of trainers/hunters/field trailers on there. They all train, with the method, he will use on your dog. Maurice and I also do a seminar at Martha Greenlee's kennel in ...
- Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:00 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Leaving point?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 23952
Re: Leaving point?
Good on being silent. most don't know how to, when dogs figuring things out. I wanted to say, let it knock a few, that way it could chase, and loosen up. Assuming its a brit by your picture. They can get lil funky, if wake up on wrong side of the bed sometimes. lol You sometimes, have to adjust acco...
- Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:22 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: E-COLLARS INTRODUCTION
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3803
Re: E-COLLARS INTRODUCTION
It will help you, and the dog if you allow the ecollar to be an extension of the check cord. Get the dog to start doing pretty well, with the check cord first. When you get a collar, the dog should be wearing it at all times while working, that way when you start overlaying things....its isn't somet...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:28 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Interested in the buddy stick......but
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4844
Re: Interested in the buddy stick......but
Lol, hands are never full, just fair. Early 30's didn't have pvc, I don't believe. Like I mentioned, and you forgot to quote, the most important part, for the poster......... find the method that makes the best sense to you, and go with it. If the poster understands it, whatever the method, it will ...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:23 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Interested in the buddy stick......but
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4844
Re: Interested in the buddy stick......but
E.R. Schelley, or Shelly, started it, way back, in the early 30's. It disappeared for a long time, Buddy came back out with it. You find a method that works best for you, and you understand the best. A scared dog, will never learn. From, what ever method it comes from. If you have got to scare, or i...
- Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:59 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: New Labrador Retriever Puppy - Where to start gun traning?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 6883
Re: New Labrador Retriever Puppy - Where to start gun traning?
Agree with Timewise65 comments. Bill Hillmans puppy video, and Jackies sound beginning's, are priceless in my book. Very good, way of doing things. Thanks Jonesy
- Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:24 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: VIDEO: Learning to Manage Running Chukar
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4902
Re: VIDEO: Learning to Manage Running Chukar
Brad also says in his signature,
lol. Thanks Jonesy
I guess the key words for the day, were "easy now," and a strong "HEEEEYYYYYYY."Handlers: Be silent in the hunt. Allow the dog the freedom to do his work.
lol. Thanks Jonesy
- Thu May 21, 2015 8:21 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: .22 Blanks??
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3314
Re: .22 Blanks??
Any home improvement center, in the tool area. Will have 22 crimps for what they call a ramset gun. Its for driving nails into concrete. The brown box works very well. Thanks Jonesy
- Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:49 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Training DVD questions
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2616
Re: Training DVD questions
Bill Hillman has some very nice ones. Works dogs at different levels or stages in training. His puppy vid is really good imo. Thanks Jonesy
- Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:31 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Flank Collar
- Replies: 45
- Views: 26568
Re: Flank Collar
Tejas, Occasionally a dog will sit when stimulated on the neck , you are usually using either to much heat, or to much stimulation. To much of either, and the dog will usually get nervous, and sit Evan, You are on the money, to an extent. With The West/Lindley Method, that AZ BRITT GUY mentioned.......
- Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:01 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Launcher Questions
- Replies: 22
- Views: 9409
Re: Launcher Questions
Man, you aren't bursting my bubble. I can compare posts, and the start dates, for each of us, to the forum. You started 2012, and have 1196, I started 2005 and, I have 389. I guess my computer time, and yours, is a little different. Gosh, I hate snow days, and remember now, exactly why, I stayed awa...
- Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:29 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Launcher Questions
- Replies: 22
- Views: 9409
Re: Launcher Questions
Ask Evan, why the retriever guys, use black/white for marks, and the start of handling drills and don't use/start with orange then? They want the dogs to be able to use the eyes.....the young or started dog learning how to build their eyes, and trust of the teacher. A dog cant see orange at a distan...
- Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:19 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Launcher Questions
- Replies: 22
- Views: 9409
Re: Launcher Questions
If you are free running, I can understand the speed bump. But, if the dog has shown you that it totally understands what's happening and why.....by its actions. You should have advanced them on to loose birds. If the dog is standing everything well, and you have allowed some of the giving its legs b...
- Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:33 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Launcher Questions
- Replies: 22
- Views: 9409
Re: Launcher Questions
Hey Don, I use blaze orange yarn, dogs are color blind, and its small, but useful. Thanks Jonesy
- Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:17 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Launcher Questions
- Replies: 22
- Views: 9409
Re: Launcher Questions
Shae, in my opinion, launchers are to help a dog, that are/could be making mistakes with birds. You read up a little, on different methods, and find one that makes sense to you. Reason I say it this way, is for the dog........if your teaching doesn't make sense to you, it wont to do the dog either. ...
- Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:04 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Whoa when on point?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 7354
Re: Whoa when on point?
It seems to help calm the person, more than the dog. Dogs don't understand English. They understand tone. If you feel you need to intimidate the dog to stand there, while you do your part of the job..........you haven't taught the job fully. Dogs are usually a bird away from a blow up, accept that, ...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:16 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: How Often Should I Shoot a Quail or Pigeon
- Replies: 32
- Views: 14816
Re: How Often Should I Shoot a Quail or Pigeon
The dog sounds young n green. I'd try and as fair as I could. Let it hunt an enjoy it. Manners will follow in time. You can't ever make a fair correction if dog never gets to make a mistake. It's a pup. Thanks Jonesy
- Sat May 31, 2014 9:39 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Looking for Trainer in CA
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5995
Re: Looking for Trainer in CA
You might try and call Al Bianchi - Orion Kennels. He is an amatuer, but is honest on his dogs. He might know a good one to send to, and he is located in Red Bluff Ca. Thanks Jonesy
- Wed May 28, 2014 9:17 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Need a trainer in Tennessee
- Replies: 19
- Views: 9993
Re: Need a trainer in Tennessee
J Paul is a good one, tell him Jonesy, says hi! I bought a 11 mo old female off him named "Mouse" that was popping on the blind work. I taught her the extra confidence needed, and she worked out very well, and the popping quit. Reedblackwell, there are alot of good pros, some you might have to trave...
- Wed May 07, 2014 6:08 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Eating birds
- Replies: 43
- Views: 26381
Re: Eating birds
Increase its feeding intake. Sounds hungry, honestly. Thanks Jonesy
- Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:19 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: VIDEO: Steady to Flush, Shot & Fall + Retrieve & Honor
- Replies: 18
- Views: 7579
Re: VIDEO: Steady to Flush, Shot & Fall + Retrieve & Honor
I find the evolution from the West method
It is, and all dogs work with the method very easily. It makes sense to the dog......and the people working, or teaching it. Thanks Jonesyto what might be described as a cooperative approach interesting.
- Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:20 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Train myself or find a trainer
- Replies: 62
- Views: 29587
Re: Train myself or find a trainer
Chris, you look into several of the methods, find out what makes sense to you the best. Reason why, if it doesn't make sense to you, its not gonna make sense to your dog. You will have a hard time, teaching something that doesn't make any sense to you. I would be interested in getting some pigeons p...
- Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:59 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Looking for a good trainer
- Replies: 12
- Views: 5025
Re: Looking for a good trainer
That is a really good joke/statement, most think, and treat, like they are. Thanks JonesyThey aren't GSPs with long hair!
- Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:54 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Looking for a good trainer
- Replies: 12
- Views: 5025
Re: Looking for a good trainer
Maurice is a good one, he would be a lot closer to you, than it am. Either one of us be happy to help, thanks Jonesy
- Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:00 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Puppy Wont Point
- Replies: 67
- Views: 18297
Re: Puppy Wont Point
Would you like to borrow my "training with mo" book?
That was good one Bonasa!! Loved it!!
You have to have an open mind, and thoughts, with the book, and the dog work. Thanks Jonesy