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Miller bred. Nathan Phillips

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Not going with me. It’s highly overrated IMO. As long as the dog points and holds birds til you get there they are hunting for you. My dogs range 300 yards in woodcock cover. I love it. That’s why they wear an Astro. Let the dog hunt and figure out where the birds are without you interfering

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Letting young pups chase birds builds there desire to hunt and find birds. Lay off using collars and keep your mouth shut except for praise. Let pup learn his natural breeding traits that is hunting and pointing. You can’t teach this. Forget about any formal training first year

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Running hard on empty stomach bigger risk for seizures. Been thru it several times. Won’t make that mistake again

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Get that dog in shape too. One dog for 5 days in a row he needs to be in top shape.

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Even before the flush..... a dog that is not allowed to relocate on running birds means lost birds

Bird hunters that expect a broke dog hunt a very narrow window of wild upland birds

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I don't know how you can say staunch dog's are the key to successful bird hunting. As long as the dog is steady to flush, that's all the average guy needs or wants. There are far more birds killed every year over dog's that are only steady until the flush than over broke dog's. Why? There ain't many...

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Ray G
How would your staunch dogs react to running birds

React to backing situations

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I disagree with most. You need to bring out the pups natural breeding. That is pup needs to learn to hunt, point and find birds. You can't teach this. Wild birds bring this out in pup. All you need to do is get pup used to the gun shot and come when called. After a season of shooting wild birds then...

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Uuuuuh........ SHaRPs
You sure about chukar and Huns in your neck of the woods?

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It's a real PI the A if you have to boot dogs with dew claws. I have been fighting it

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Ok Art. Sent. Thanks

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No I never got it

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Hey neighbor. I live in the next town over. Magnolia. But I do all out of state hunting for the most part.

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[quote="gonehuntin'"]I hunt VERY big country for grouse and if you have a dog that goes much over 100 yards, you make so much noise getting to the dog the bird flies. This makes zero sense to me. Birds fly off when hunters are over 100 yards away walking thru brush. But birds hold when hunters are w...

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The Lewis boots are killing my dogs dew claw area. Vet wrap over the dew claw no help. Thinking of making long enough boots with inner tubes to tape well above the dew claw area on the dogs leg Or wondering how other boots will work like the muttluck with the nylon and rubber soles. Need rubber sole...

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So when cooking birds while camping if i cannot eat all the birds i cook i am forced to throw the extra cooked birds in the trash.

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So from a learning point. If I am camping and cook birds that I intend to eat the following day and the warden finds the cook birds in my cooler am I guilty for removing the identfication

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Roysetters has posted that since he lives in his motor home while hunting 6 months a year that his motor home becomes his permanent residence.

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IMO asking for nearby towns on the Internet is hot spotting. Personally I don't even like mentioning the state on the Internet. I have a remote town I hunt out of in September. Very limited camping in this town. Up until 2 years ago me and 2 other groups of hunters used this camping spot One of thos...

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Looking at the picture of it wedged into the dogs chest i just cant figureout how it will stay put if the dog backs up or moves off to the side. I want to have a better feeling it will work before i buy the video

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Shooting birds for pup who flash points then bust does 2 things. It shows pup the both of you are a team and this is what your after

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If you mean bill west he is top notch. I have his dvd.

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Whats hour method. Even as youn pups i struggle with half my docgs

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My experience is a silent hunter encourages dogs to range further out. Someone that is always giving the dog commands keeps them close. The dog is looking at you for directions

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X2 on tooling advice. The whoa crowd will differ

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A dog that breaks at the flush will reduce lost cripples. You and your son need to have the discipline to not shoot if the dog is in danger. Same as if your hunting a flusher. Very common

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Let me get this straight. On 2 different threads for this same subject, over 50 post. Whoa on birds, whoa to stop from creeping, breaking, stop to flush and countless others . you say it's an obedience only command
That's the end of the discussion because you said it. Really

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Wait, wait, wait! You will use it to reinforce stop to flush? That is not a reason it's not important, for you it is a reason it is important![/quote] As I stated way back when, the need for whoa today is a small issue compared to training methods 40 years ago. Using whoa to reinforce stop to flush ...

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Have you even read these many posts and understood what we are saying? That is a question you should ask yourself. you tell me how affective whoa is when the dog is out of site 99% of the time. And holding birds waiting for you to show up that 1% I will use it to reinforce stop to flush and not rea...

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the whoa crowd keep claiming it is the most important command Why have a pointing breed if you have to keep them in site all the time . That's what flushing dogs are for. Especially keeping them in close enough that the command will stop him. Dogs adrenalin is so high during hunting that it takes mo...

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Obviously if you approach your dog lying down instead of pointing that scenario has nothing to do with this thread. If my garmin tracker shows him pointing and I approach him 30 minutes later and find him pointing, and I walk into the area of the point and birds are there, then the dog is pointing a...

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I must be dumb, I've had pointing dogs for almost 40 years and never had one that was whoa broke. I'm surprised that all my dogs survived. :wink: You took the words right out of my mouth No command for your dogs to stop and stop now? Yes but not to the point that all my dogs would have died early f...

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Lucky Dog wrote:I must be dumb, I've had pointing dogs for almost 40 years and never had one that was whoa broke.
I'm surprised that all my dogs survived.

You took the words right out of my mouth

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Wild birds do not teach whoa, they teach the dog how close it can get before the bird leaves![/quote] If this was the case your saying it's completely worthless to have a pointing dog range out of site since your not there to tell the dog to whoa?? It is very common for me to take up to 30 minutes t...

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Wild birds teach whoa for pointing and holding. For safety the come or hear command works for all the other breeds. Why does a pointer have to be different There are times when you need the dog to stop and stand still instead of running to you. The breed has nothing to do with it when we are talkin...

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Wild birds teach whoa for pointing and holding. For safety the come or hear command works for all the other breeds. Why does a pointer have to be different

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The hunter carries the hawk screamer

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Use a hawk screamer to hold the birds

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I would go to nebraska instead

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What is the process for using ducks for game

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This is the best thread ever. Any videos of your dog and falcon working together on grouse or huns. Any upland birds that give your team a real challenge

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how do you accomadate the birds after hunting and all nite while on the road. Do they just sit in the cab of your vehicle except when hunting

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If the dog points at all i am shooting. You need to show that you and him are a team and woodcock , grouse are what your after

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Run him on wild birds, keep your mouth shut except for praise, let him chase the first season. He will be bird crazy

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Look for the same habitat you found those birds in. Scout the areas from your truck before you start hunting your dogs

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I will be leaving the same time myself from Houston. Where are you coming from

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My filson single tin cloth are not stiff at all . Got them last year and they are just right.

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I had a tt classic 70. It stunk. Right out of the box only 1/4 mile range line of sight at best. Suppose to have 1 mile. Lousy customer service and charged me more money that didn't do a thing. Never again tt. Now have a sportdog pro hunter with 2 dogs. It works as advertised. Going on 3 years now

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The filson has 2 faults in my opinion. No dedicated water bottle holder that you can get to easily for dogs. And that belt is not a load bearing type belt to have all the weight on your hips. That belt is just to keep the front pockets strapped in

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