Gun Dog Forum

It depends on the dog. I have an old Setter that I have run "naked" for the past 5+ years. I know I cant lose him, never have and he is as steady on his birds as they come. He doesnt try to get away with stuff. On the other hand I have a 3.5 yr old pointer that I wouldnt feel comfortable turning loo...

Nice job!

FYI. The sport, especially in the Kansas area has lost a great. You can view the obituary below.

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I wish it was a week or two later then I could come with some broke dogs after my trip to S Dakota!

Every night I am whoa breaking young dogs, FF'ing older dogs. Birds are almost always used for some of the dogs.

I personally wouldn"t waste my time unless I was confident the dog had the "other right tools" to make the grade. I would take em hunting for the first year. Good idea myerstenn. I always wait till the dog is about three years old. This allows the dog to go through the breaking process and have a c...

Distance doesnt really matter, once the dog establishes point/game they need to stay put. This doesnt matter if its 2 ft or 50ft. Creeping is a killer on hunts. Sounds like your dog has a great nose though.

All the guys will laugh, as I am now. What is wrong with a dog box?

Yep, pigeons chickens quail and turkey all do

Mine is a bigger version of what sane people do, but I raise birds for the public so keep that in mind. You can view pic's at www.cekkennels.com/birds.htm

The weather channel says it's not even going to hit 100' between now and Monday. Around here (SW Missouri) it gets a little over 100' and doesn't rain for two weeks and people start crying, saying the appocolypse (sp?) is coming. We lived in Las Vegas one year when it almost tipped 120'. Now, that'...

Welcome, thanks for your service, and stay away from them fires!

I would recommend the Dogtra bark collar. I have had one for ten years and never had an issue. Buy quality and you will never regret it.

They do a great job, I have always been VERY pleased with the service and pricing!

Let the cat eat the shrew then stomp both the cat and shrew, two 'birds" with one stone!

Do I really have to?

Nice vid though

Get a cat, the meanest nastiest SOB that you can get from the shelter. (and dont feed the cat till it catches it)

I wouldn't get eggs from an untrusted source, to many chances something could go wrong concerning diseases and such. You may have received eggs that were older than advertised or not fertile. You already have them in the incubator so I would leave them, any damage that could have been done has been....

Ignore him, he is just sight pointing and this never promotes anything good. Keep walking and tell him to go on. The only thing praise will bring out is his desire to sight point.

In ten years call me and let me know how those "economy launchers" work for you. Spend the money once on the right product and you shouldnt have to worry every time you take the dog out to train. Buy Dogtra. Not cheap, although from everything I hear neither are Honda's but they are both worth the m...

Onk-
I have had fans over mine for about six years and never had a problem with anything (other than dogs chewing through 2 of the fans power cords :roll: )

Being a stay at home dad with a bird farm allows me to train all of my own. I couldn't see paying someone to do what I am fully capable of doing myself. Granted, my situation is different than most, plus I have one heck of a little helper with two more up and coming when they get older.

www.mynaga.org Look there and you will find something

Take a look around this site, there are TONS of threads that provide the information you are seeking.

Sounds like Jarbo may have a crush on Bill.................

Bill, or Bull, or what ever. Shut the heck up, you obviously dont which end of a dog to feed. You and chiggers are the only thing that get under my skin!

I am laughing so he has to be......................... :roll:

This has gotten COMPLETELY off topic and folks are getting all worked up. Get it back on TOPIC or I will lock it, pure and simple.

I concede Bill, I dont hunt and pointers are worthless and less than versatile. I wish yawallac was here at time of ignorance!

I sell most of my " washouts" to guys like you Bill. They dont know what they want, have limited experience, want to go hunting on the weekends, have no clue how to train the dog, send it back to me for a "refresher", and tout that I have a field trial bred dog. For all of your bias against trialing...

There is obvously something "critically" missing from your arguments. Thinking isnt missing although understanding of what you are against. Best advice would be to gather some first hand knowledge and DO IT, pontification with no facts only leads to a baseless argument that no one will agree with.

Agitators don't last long here............

Bill- Judges call this "application" Not just judging the run but how they apply themself to teh ground afforded to them. :roll: albeit not necessarily BY the dog with the most finds? I find that clearly illogical that such a dog could lose. And it happens quite often as you know. This is where the ...

Nice looking dog! Let me guess it goes back to MC's Additional Class, right?

It doesnt matter, both have there ups and downs. I own both and buy whatever flips my lid.

Sharon-
Maybe I am missing something but I really didnt see a personal attack in Stonefaces post. If there was then the appropriate response would be applied. Hard to do anything when nothing is seen though.

Digger-
I can understand getting your fingers caught in an unshrouded fan, but for the life of me I still cant see why you could experience nose damage.

Get rid of the coons, put the bobs down, and put 95% of the feed in the trap. Hungry birds will walk through bobs or even heck to eat a good meal. Try a board on the floor of the trap, something white that the birds can see the feed easily. I have always used a bathroom board type of paneling or hav...

Problem is that you have a shorthair, they bark at nothing for no reason all the time. I cant tell you how many times I have had shorthairs here and they drive me nuts! :roll: I have 8 pointers outside right now and I havent heard a peep out of them all day, dang "rebel" dogs.

I have a 10X10 tack/dog room with a workbench and a spot for everything. Its an extension off of my office and has nails in the wall to hang everything. Even still I cant find half of what I want. :roll:

I've never been much of a wordsmith, Cajun you said exactly what I was trying to!

There is really no need for bedding, take everything out and maybe put in a Kong with nothing else. That should keep the pup busy. He/She really doesnt need to like it, its not up to the dog. Stay strong and the dog will come around.

Nice job!

You dont need a mortgage, that is DEBT. Pay cash, thats what Dave teaches. If you MUST obtain a mortgage then a 15 yr fixed is the only thing he will tell you is acceptable. Investing is simple jkwith Daves plan, good growth stock mutual funds. You still play the market but with less risk because yo...

ElhewPointer wrote:
Stoneface wrote:Elhew, I'm guessing that second dog is an Elhew and the third is an Erin dog. Am I close? Who is that first dog? I really like him.
Good work internet warrior, you found the photos online. The first dog is Ch. Rock Acre Blackhawk.

+1 Unmeasurables are just that, Unmeasurable.

I knew what you were getting at. I really dont care about conformation that much, if the dog does what I want then I am happy. They do however have to be appealing to the eye and not appear to be a pig. I have seen some pigs that have got it done and racked up multiple CH's though so what do I know?...

Trap set, who will fall for it....... :lol: IMO the three dogs Elhew posted all have the benefit of better conditioning than the first subject. They have better balance of mass for rear drive and front pull, with seemingly deeper chests and presumably better lung capacity.... And the heads are quite...

I use some old concrete porch steps that I removed from the front porch, a bench, straw bales, a 35 gallon barrel, truck tailgate, and a small wooden bench that is screwed to the lightpole in my yard. Seems to have and continues to work fine. The whole point is to get the dog up, doesnt matter what ...

Jim- You would hate to see m y dogs then. While they are really working you can 3-5 ribs any day of the week and still wont eat all their feed. I also train year round/FT/and hunt. They might get a month off a year. And get fed premium feed/raw meat diet.

He looks fine to me, I wouldnt mind even seeing a couple more pounds off of him. As long as its due to his workout regimen.

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