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I found this site. http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_d ... ?r_id=4800 When you are filling out your ballots remember who backs HSUS so you know who to vote against.

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Dave, I have had this talk with you before as well as others. I realize we are on two different sides of this, so normally I would hold my breath. However there are new people that read info so I will just type a few of the things that have already been covered a few times. Except there were FCI dog...

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The Germans did allow some AKC breeding for a very short period. Look at Donko's ped. FC G-T Heidi and go back on her pedigree. Actually the Germans allowed NADKC and only the NADKC to bring in a little "American" blood. The reason being was they did not have the pool of dogs to work with in the st...

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Wow that seems expensive. You could build one for a quarter of that price I bet. Might not be as pretty but who cares.

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mountaindogs wrote:AKC will register them and there are many dogs registered and titled in both venues.

Yes AKC will register them. Yes there are dogs titled in both venues. However the hardcore DK guys will not use the AKC. They will register them in NAVHDA however, at least more readily than AKC.

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[quote="vzkennels" GSPS are not allowed to be registered as DKS so why should it be the other way around.[/quote] A GSP cannot be registered as a DK because of one simple reason. GSPCA does not have the standards that DKV does. To breed a DK both parents have to pass a hunt test, a conformation test...

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Choke collars can be very harmful to dogs. It can cause irreversible damage to them. Do a Google search and you will see what I am saying. When used correct I haven't seen anything that is better then a pinch collar. Don't let them pull against it cause it will have no effect. You have to give a lit...

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You guys can have the ones in my neck of the woods. There are so many here. There has been a little discussion about opening a season for them here. Probably a long way off yet though.

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Research, research, research, is the first thing you need to do. It seems as if you have already started that so that's good. Don't be in a hurry to buy. With that being said go to the link that adogslife left for you. It will help answer some of the questions you might have about DK's. There is als...

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GsPJustin wrote:Man, we all sure know a lot about how German dogs in Germany are, act, hunt, train and everything else for not ever having been to Germany.

My dog and Ted's dog were not in Germany. :roll: All DK's aren't in Germany, they are in many different countries.

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Ron I owned Dobes & thay are the biggest babies you will find.My first old german Type GSP would whip both of them at the same time even if she was half their size.She use to get loose & run around the neighbor hood & collect scraps bring them home & bury them in the back yard if any other dogs got...

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The German dogs are usually a little bigger,heavier boned,slower, & their temperament is much more sharp & they think the American bred dogs are babies when it comes to sharpness.The animal rights people & all the do gooders in this country would be calling for bans on alot of these breeds just lik...

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Ron I know but I wasn't the one that said the FT GSPS of today don't look like GSPS. :) That was my point. Just a little after thought ( I was the one that was more or less called an IDIOT early on in this thread ) :lol: I didn't/don't think you are an idiot. I 100% disagree with you saying DK's ar...

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I still have not seen any of you post what dogs do not look like GSPS & why you think they don't look like GSPS.I use to raise & show Dobes I never saw to many if any that didn't look like Dobes but I did see some that were too big,too small,etc.There are different types within the breed from diffe...

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It is a Bisley, and it's blued.

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Germans hunt whatever needs to be hunted. If boar are running rampant, they hunt boar,if roe deer need to be tracked they track,if there is an organized hare hunt, they hunt that if there is a bird hunt going on ,they hunt that. unfortunatly, there are fewer birds in germany than there once were, b...

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I am not saying you are incorrect. Infact, It could just be me being a smart "bleep". Sometimes I can't even tell. I just happen to think to say that all do this or they all do that is unfair no matter what it is you say they do. I would like to know, from a first hand account however what the majo...

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The germans hunt mostly fur with there DK"s. That isn't a true statement really. ALL German dogs are trained to hunt both fur and feather. Some areas of Germany like our country don't have many birds. So i guess that would be the case in those areas. Can anyone actually from Germany back up either ...

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gpblitz wrote: The germans hunt mostly fur with there DK"s.

That isn't a true statement really. ALL German dogs are trained to hunt both fur and feather. Some areas of Germany like our country don't have many birds. So i guess that would be the case in those areas.

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I don't own it. I am thinking about buying it.

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I am sure this will irritate some, but here goes. I do not agree with gspca on a lot of things. I don't feel they are doing this breed justice at all. As stated earlier the gsp was created to be an all around dog fur, tracking, birds, companion, etc.. I feel gspca has not pushed the ideals of the or...

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A Ruger Super blackhawk 7.5 barrel .44 mag in good condition.

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I have seen the gelber brandt color somewhere too but can't remember where. It just looks like a lighter liver to me, it wasn't really yellow or tan. gelber brandt refers to a sandy color that sometimes occurs around the muzzle and feet. That is how it is written in the Zuchtbuch. I don't know of an...

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aylaschamp why is that? Feed costs, sickness, time and the fact you'd drive your dogs nuts if you did it on the same grounds as they're on. Seriously, by the time you buy the feed in the small quantity you'll need the cost ratio might or might not work out. Then there's sickness. Devote all your ti...

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aylaschamp why is that?

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Also what strain would be best for northern WI?

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I have been using pigeons for training for a few years now. I am sick of climbing silos for shooters however. So I am going to buy some quail. I have a few questions for those of you that have quail. I am going to buy 100 chicks to start. What do you guys/gals use for feed (chicks and adults). Does ...

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CherrystoneWeims wrote:I say keep her being a house dog. Why keep her outside? She will become much closely bonded to you if she is with you more. Have her outside when you aren't at home for long periods of time so she won't have to hold herself.

I agree 100%

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Thanks for all the responses. The reason I am wondering about the range is only for the placement of the wire. I want to keep the dogs out of the driveway. The driveway is only 20 or so feet from the door so that really limits them from the start. I can put the wire on the other side of the driveway...

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I have the room so I do want to get the max. I thought I had read somewhere the correction area (wire) changed as more area was added. I am just trying to figure it all out before I lay it out and test it.

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I agree with Ezzy. Cold should not be a problem what so ever. I have some new chicks right now and the temp just got down to -10. I wish the pigeons would stop laying in the cold months.

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I just got a Petsafe stubborn inground system. My question is how wide can I make the boundry area, or static area or what ever they call it? I will be fencing in about a three acre area.

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Where is the dam pedigree at? I would be interested in seeing it. Sounds like some great dogs in her background.

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phillipsgsp those letters you see after the dogs names aren't titles really. DK's have to go through testing before they can be bred. In basic terms they must have conformation, do their hunt test and have the hips checked. So you will see letters and numbers after every dogs name on a German (FCI) ...

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Why does the tail have to be at 12 o'clock? Does it matter if it is at 11 or 10 or even 9? I never understood the whole 12 o'clock thing. Does it mean more birds in the bag? I have seen Pointer owners sell a dog because of a sickle tail. Am I missing something?

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Howie do you have any pics by chance?

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I tried to get on there the last couple days, but couldn't do it. I haven't talked to him for awhile. I need to swing by one of these days.

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Congrats Howie. Did Carey run any dogs?

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WI has had this law for as long as I can remember. Posted or not you must get permission. However that doesn't cure the problem. The last three years we have kicked people off of our deer hunting land. Of course I am sure you have all heard about the people killed over this kind of thing a few years...

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Everyones pictures are great. I like the rigid body with the nose and tail up. My favorite though is when you see that fire in their eyes. You can look at a dogs eyes and know if it is doing it because that is what you want, or if that is what the dog wants.

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I think this is a great question. There is a lot of opinions which is also great. These are the things that make gun dogs great and unique. There are so many different hunting styles, hunters, terrain, game, and of course dogs. I care more for the dog than the title it holds. However if I can't see ...

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Check out this.
http://www.gundogforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7876

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You basically have it narrowed down to 2 opposite bird dogs. The GSP is a great upland dog, and good retriever they are not built to retreive in cold water though. The GSP will go all day, range out a lot farther and of course point. The Lab is a fair to good upland dog, great retriever in all weath...

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Grizz64 wrote: The friends who keep there dogs kenneled up say that they can not be pets and hunters. Is that true?

I also 100% disagree with this statement if anything it would be the other way around.

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Trigger wrote:Are we still looking for one more??

Yes. I never thought it would be this difficult. If anybody knows of anyone send them over. As soon as that eighth team is in I can send the ok for the autopick draft.

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We still need at least one more before we can start.

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bean1031 wrote:just joined Im the retrievers. Whens the draft?

As soon as we get enough teams.

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Looking for more teams yet. We have to have at least 4 more. More would be better.

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Lets see if we can get enough people. League ID is 564696 and password is gundog. It is through Yahoo.

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