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by Duane M
Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:30 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: FT question
Replies: 11
Views: 3407

Re: FT question

AF yes I cant speak for AKC.
by Duane M
Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:17 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?
Replies: 43
Views: 10015

Re: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?

Quail act like gentlemen so I treat them with respect, those sneaky chinese birds not so much.


Hey Bobman come on out to Oklahoma bet ya our Bobs will change your mind on them being a gentleman bird. Them devils run as much as any ditch parrot nowdays but I stll treat em with respect.
by Duane M
Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:06 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: red muscle in dogs eye?
Replies: 16
Views: 3589

Re: red muscle in dogs eye?

The pushing back in I hope is the reattachement I mentioned earlier. Personal experience and my vets advice tells me no as after the sutures dissolve the duct could become unattached again. I have not had any dry eye issues, but have heard it is a possibility. I reckon the final decision would rest ...
by Duane M
Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:26 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: American Field Ariticle
Replies: 122
Views: 14338

Re: American Field Ariticle

Duane I doubt there is anyone that will claim any format is without it problems. What may be happening with people preceiving these so called knocked birds being shot. This bird could have already been scored on in that brace, so if you did not see that bird get scored the first time you may have i...
by Duane M
Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:53 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: American Field Ariticle
Replies: 122
Views: 14338

Re: American Field Ariticle

Romeo see there is one problem I have seen time and again. Now I KNOW this will be taken as a personal attack and am willing to accept that without crying to anyone about it. While I have readily seen competitors in AF and AKC trials admit that there are issues to be dealt with the same has not been...
by Duane M
Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:11 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: American Field Ariticle
Replies: 122
Views: 14338

Re: American Field Ariticle

Thats been my first oppurtunity to read the article and outside the use of the term bloodbath and some semantics I truly fail to see what has some so up in arms. I do not run NSTRA but have watched a few as well as talked to MANY who run in them. Oddly things like this: "with every effort made to sh...
by Duane M
Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:38 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: FIGHTFORTHETROOPS.COM
Replies: 2
Views: 441

Re: FIGHTFORTHETROOPS.COM

Definitely and what a KO by Kos. I am bidding on a few auction items as well, all that money is being donated by the fighters.
by Duane M
Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:36 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: to much importance put on pedigree?
Replies: 59
Views: 12056

Re: to much importance put on pedigree?

I've tried to write a post for this thread a number of times, but the thread has drifted from one extreme to another I'm not sure what the real question is. IMO, FAR too much importance is put on the "pedigree itself" and not near enough importance on the actual dogs in the pedigree. Folks obsess a...
by Duane M
Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:49 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: FIGHTFORTHETROOPS.COM
Replies: 2
Views: 441

FIGHTFORTHETROOPS.COM

Tonight the UFC is holding a special event to support the Intrepid Fallen Heros fund which will establish a center to help troops with traumatic brain injury and other mental problems. The National Interpid Center for Excellence will be dedicated for these troops. I know we have fellow vets here alo...
by Duane M
Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:08 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?
Replies: 43
Views: 10015

Re: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?

Greg I was reffering to Ezzys post below: We have plenty of serious posts without anyone posting just to create an arguement. There are other boards that may need that to get people to post but we don't have that problem. Ezzy Far as the PM issue goes thats another story I am not interested in. That...
by Duane M
Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?
Replies: 43
Views: 10015

Re: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?

No offense Ezzy and Greg but seriously guys PFPs post was not what I consider an attack or even flaming, maybe ill informed but not an attack and as such it does lead to the real information coming out.Like I said I found it pretty dang funny myself. Besides if ya look at his dogs ya will see theres...
by Duane M
Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:10 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?
Replies: 43
Views: 10015

Re: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?

Only way that dog you mention on the Pheasant would have been docked points is if the handler had called point and began to make a flushing effort. A repositioning before that is not, USUALLY, docked by good judges for sure in a wild bird stake especially. Did not get my hackles up at all just my hu...
by Duane M
Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:50 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?
Replies: 43
Views: 10015

Re: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?

From what I have gleaned from people I know, and what I have read, a good trial dog ain't worth a nickel for real hunting, and a real hunting dog ain't worth a nickel for trialing. Completely 2 different entities. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yep cant be the same at all. One dog this weekend palced every...
by Duane M
Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:28 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?
Replies: 43
Views: 10015

Re: Pheasant hunting w/pointers without letting training slip?

Romeo I did the exact thing you are looking at last weekend up at Fairview and look at it differently than Bobman. I took two of my trial dogs, along with one of my veteran pheasant dogs all three had Pheasant experience in the past just Maddie had probably ten times as much. The way I looked at it ...
by Duane M
Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:12 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: ARKAT Dog Food
Replies: 17
Views: 5155

Re: ARKAT Dog Food

Rick it was a joke man. I know some feeds give gas bad, been there done that with three house hounds and always one of the A-string riding in the truck with me. Just found it humorous how many times you mention farts and feed together. I think it's all that swamp water your drink myself. :wink:
by Duane M
Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:44 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: ARKAT Dog Food
Replies: 17
Views: 5155

Re: ARKAT Dog Food

Rick Hall wrote:Made the two dogs I tried it on crap like custard machines and fart like paper mills. Cutting back portions only served to emaciate them.
Rick is there any feed your dogs don't fart like paper mills on, seems to be a recurring issue with ya :lol:
by Duane M
Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:05 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: red muscle in dogs eye?
Replies: 16
Views: 3589

Re: red muscle in dogs eye?

Birdman, Rufus is scheduled on the 17th for his surgery, not really surgery as they use an injectable instead of gas and the whole proccess takes all of about 10 minutes. This is a pretty easy and safe procedure and I have yet to have any issues after having the removal done, never did the reattachm...
by Duane M
Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:46 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: E-Collar response
Replies: 14
Views: 2709

Re: E-Collar response

Lets back up just a little how about I put an e collar and a check cord on you and give you a command at the same time tug on your neck and stimulate you at the same time ..not allowing for you to even have a chance to understand the verbal command or even a chance to comply to it BAck up a step br...
by Duane M
Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:20 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 131
Views: 23871

Re: EP sire question

This has become more of a general pointer line discussion. I would like to read some opinions on specific ep sires that you guys like, and why. Duane, Topher you midwest guys especially. Dave IMO at the time we are in what could be called a recovery around here for a large part. We spent a decade i...
by Duane M
Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:31 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 131
Views: 23871

Re: EP sire question

Shoot Ray theres other examples outside that Trailrider had none, heck he was straight out SD lines and not even a natural AA dog. Remember I knew Bill before Gary(RIP) knew him and still say his brother Rip was the better dog, but Gary managed to stretch him out on the Praries and Texas to get him ...
by Duane M
Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:52 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: red muscle in dogs eye?
Replies: 16
Views: 3589

Re: red muscle in dogs eye?

If it is cherry eye the best fix I have found is to simply have it cut out. You can have the duct reattached but no guarantee it will stay put then you have another vet bill. For some lines it is a common issue and I know a couple of breeders who do the removal them selves, they say it's easy but th...
by Duane M
Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 131
Views: 23871

Re: EP sire question

Am I the only one that has trouble calling what Miller did cheating. Most people cheat in order to win, he bred dogs to lesser stud dogs then the original papers showed and still produced champions. I don't know why he did it, he didn't have to. I guess I am more aw struck then anything. On the sub...
by Duane M
Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:25 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: national dog show
Replies: 28
Views: 9240

Re: national dog show

I figured that Scott thats why I adressed it to ya.

Yep Arlette it was BLUE but perfect. :lol:
by Duane M
Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:25 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: national dog show
Replies: 28
Views: 9240

Re: national dog show

Yep thats what she had to do all the time, I watched her at the OKC show this year working with him and it was a sight to see. Do ya know how hard it is make a Honky Tonk X Hammer Down dog keep it's tail down? :lol:
by Duane M
Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:45 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: national dog show
Replies: 28
Views: 9240

Re: national dog show

Arlette ya know EXACTLY what I meant. Many places that tout Duals are in reality JH dogs, not FCs or AFCs, thats all breeds. I know what a DC is since a dog I sold three years ago to a show person here in Oklahoma called me last spring to let me know he had gotten his DC, would have earlier but she ...
by Duane M
Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:46 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: national dog show
Replies: 28
Views: 9240

Re: national dog show

And the glass half full version is at least it is from the sporting class and not one of the foo-foo classes. Agree Greg, shoot I was happy to watch it live when the dog won honestly and like I said they do at least do HT with their dogs. Aint my own kinda dog but at least genetically it's my breed...
by Duane M
Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:37 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: national dog show
Replies: 28
Views: 9240

Re: national dog show

But Scott these people produce the much touted "Dual Dogs" that the Britt people brag about so much. :wink: Yeah they are all JH dogs bug that seems to qualify as a Dual Dog for most. This pic from their site is probably shopped but it still cracks me up. http://www.seasydepointers.com/Freddycranebi...
by Duane M
Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:24 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Our Economy
Replies: 60
Views: 9769

Re: Our Economy

Sounds like ya got the niche buyers, lucky dog.
by Duane M
Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:47 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Our Economy
Replies: 60
Views: 9769

Re: Our Economy

We are not noticing a lack of ability to sell GSP's here but instead EP's are a dime a dozen down here in Oklahoma, and well bred shorthairs bring an average of $150-$200 more than well bred EP's. The bird numbers seem to be rebounding some here in Oklahoma and people are buying dogs now because of...
by Duane M
Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:18 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 131
Views: 23871

Re: EP sire question

birdsandbirds wrote:I believe that the birds at Ames this year were released on Sat before the trial started on Monday. Then another batch was released the next weekend....
Could be this year but not in previous years. Did not check much this year so I cant say.
by Duane M
Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:37 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 131
Views: 23871

Re: EP sire question

It has been my experience that a dog trained on lib's will bump wild birds, generally requiring additional training. I know wild birds are so few these days it is nearly impossible for trainers to use wild birds solely in breaking dogs. And even if they did most would not like young dogs busting up...
by Duane M
Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:43 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Our Economy
Replies: 60
Views: 9769

Re: Our Economy

REAAAAL SLOOOOOOW is the best (or worst) way to describe it. We have sold some to trialer but only two to hunters and they were both repeat customers. Like Prariefire mentioned LOTS of tire kickers and "buyers" who wanna shoot the s^&t but few buyers. Oh yeah and of course the guy who wants a two ye...
by Duane M
Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:32 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 131
Views: 23871

Re: EP sire question

scotly50 wrote - "Most will introduce a dog to wild birds before working liberated birds, simply because if a dog can handle a wild bird it will certainly do well with liberated." I am not sure about the first part of your statement, but I actually completely disagree with your conclusion. I find E...
by Duane M
Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:40 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: akc vs nstra
Replies: 34
Views: 5306

Re: akc vs nstra

The main reason about the open field is safety for the dogs, handlers and judges. Also, the dogs must be steady to flush (wing) but not to the shot. To play some devils advocate the same reason you use for NSTRAs open field could well be used as the reason AF and most AKC stakes do not do a retriev...
by Duane M
Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:04 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: High COI vrs. Low COI ???
Replies: 14
Views: 3501

Re: High COI vrs. Low COI ???

I much prefer ability to anything on paper, seen too many outcrosses that produced outstanding dogs to believe the hype the COI crowd touts. Thats my story and I'm stickin to it.
by Duane M
Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:29 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Deep frying gamebirds?
Replies: 16
Views: 3867

Re: Deep frying gamebirds?

Deep fried Quail are OUTSTANDING. MMMM MMMMM MMMMM. :D
by Duane M
Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:27 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Staph Infection
Replies: 6
Views: 1145

Re: Staph Infection

I don't know about in dogs but with humans the type of Staph can make a huge difference. Sorry Ezzy but this is gonna go totally against your post BTW. Internal staphs can lead to a lifetime of being very careful with yourself, externals are not as bad about reccurence as long as good hygeine is pra...
by Duane M
Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:20 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Training photos
Replies: 8
Views: 974

Re: Training photos

Nice lookin pups Andy whos the sire and dam on them. Suzy looks like a dog I know.
by Duane M
Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:28 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 131
Views: 23871

Re: EP sire question

birdogg42 wrote:Ray where can a fella find the Frank Thompson report??
http://fieldtrialpointers.net/onlipub.html

Ray I did not get the PM ya sent.
by Duane M
Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:13 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 131
Views: 23871

Re: EP sire question

Wildweeds - This was not Mr. Miller's first rodeo. This was not his first confirmed infraction. He was a successful bird dog breeder, both from financial and from a product standpoint. You do not get to be that successful by not knowing what is going on. I do believe in my heart that he was totally...
by Duane M
Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:32 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt
Replies: 16
Views: 4079

Re: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt

OK so you got to see the seminar I did aimed at the kids, honestly I felt that was not the best of the three I did that weekend the next two days I settled in to a better "groove" so to speak. Still the same topic about going back to the basics of training but better details and examples. If you do ...
by Duane M
Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:44 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt
Replies: 16
Views: 4079

Re: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt

Shoot I'll give ya hint since ya hunt Sandy. That spot is in between two big hills with a creek bottom in between them :lol: . Did ya talk to me at the Expo? Which day were ya there cause I did a different seminar using different dogs each day. Regardless thanks for the compliment I really enjoy doi...
by Duane M
Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:14 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt
Replies: 16
Views: 4079

Re: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt

Coveyrise if ya have not hunted Sanders you dont realize just saying you found coveys gives a person zero idea where at. Not all areas there are anywhere near equal. Besides very few people hunt Sanders cause it is rough on dogs and humans alike. A person wants to go through what I do to find birds ...
by Duane M
Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:54 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt
Replies: 16
Views: 4079

Re: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt

What are the good places to hunt in Cooper? Guys I'd be careful giving that kind of info out. I'd do it through a PM if I were you. The internet has caused a lot of places to get pounded into the ground over the years. When I lived in SW Oklahoma, I used to hunt Black Kettle a lot, until people sta...
by Duane M
Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:41 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Young birds
Replies: 2
Views: 496

Re: Young birds

We hunted at Burkburnett the opener and it was normal, lots of young birds. Texas flat opens the season too early cause even when you don't lose the first hatch you will have birds nesting late in the year. Sucks when ya shoot a bird so young, what a waste.
by Duane M
Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:30 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt
Replies: 16
Views: 4079

Re: SW Oklahoma Quail Hunt

Your report reflects Kettle for the last half decade for the most part. That place has been over hunted badly and the population is reflecting it. I guided on a ranch last year that is surrounded by Kettle and the numbers were totally different, even as bad as last year was. We had an average of 11 ...
by Duane M
Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:18 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP sire question
Replies: 131
Views: 23871

Re: EP sire question

Fiddler?I thought he was the EP whose lines were predispositioned to have cancer and pack it in early. Thats correct, far too many die young from cancer in the line. I lost a very nice three year old to it a couple of years back, he was double bred Fiddlers Gold with Ace on the top side. Never have...
by Duane M
Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:34 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: EP lines
Replies: 17
Views: 3347

Re: EP lines

Tommyboy all I own and breed are Pointers, thats all it's ever been, and I'll list the top three or four in natural retrieving. Bayou lines are some of the best out of around 25 I have owned, trained or whelped they all were very good and natural with soft mouths. Miller, despite this being an AA li...
by Duane M
Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:02 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: English Pointer Pups tail~~~~~~~UPDATED PICTURES!!!
Replies: 49
Views: 15054

Re: English Pointer Pups tail~~~~~~~UPDATED PICTURES!!!

I don't visit much but I have seen several tails like that and every last one has been tipped. It's a common practice with lot's of breeders for different reasons. My question is why so defensive about such a common practice?
by Duane M
Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:23 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: what the heck e collar on a puppy
Replies: 18
Views: 3257

Never have put an E on a pup that young myself. There is a Lab trainer down the road however who does with every litter, his record speaks for itself as he has more trophys than you could shake a big stick at. One mans poison is anothers ambrosia I reckon.