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Luke is an excellent handler. Congrats to him and the owners!

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Slistoe, I've ridden with Ferrel's young protege Ike, working derbies and it's like you and Ray have stated, they don't get free rein. They are trained to stay to the front and within contact of less than 400 yards. However, I've also ridden with Tommy Davis at his and Luke's summer camp and mostly ...

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Wild birds will cure any problems of that nature.

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Sorry for your loss Don. What a beautiful dog!

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Here's my $0.02 on why some bird hunters are afraid of field trials. First off I think "afraid" isn't the right word, but maybe "shy away from" might be better. As the word "afraid" elicits a negative, defensive response from some. I have attended and participated and volunteered in trials (AKC, NV...

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Ray, I think a lot of people that have never been to a trial, would be surprised what it takes to get a dog to a level of winning one. It's such a complicated thing and I can understand why most hunters don't want any part of them. The local club had a weekend horseback trial here a few months ago a...

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My bird hunter has some field trial blood in her. She's the one pointing 866 yrds out. Her first cast is usually 3/4 of a mile to find any birds within truck door shutting range;-) http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m571/Taithoods/2969f538-3d6e-4874-8b4a-87c26709d862_zpsw6jqcfzq.jpg This always so...

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My bird hunter has some field trial blood in her. She's the one pointing 866 yrds out. Her first cast is usually 3/4 of a mile to find any birds within truck door shutting range;-)

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Once you have a reliable recall ( perhaps collar conditioned) While you are doing the yard training get this dog in the field as much as you can. It would be best if you can find a large field with wild birds. let the dog run and chase with no restrictions except if you have to recall. just like ha...

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And great grounds to field trial on!

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Thanks

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Who is it you are interviewing?

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Tough way to go, sorry for your loss!

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I don't think you were very far off because the pros I know would probably say they prefer running on sharpies the most. But, different habitats hold different birds so they take what they get.

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Quill, I think UJ caters to a very select group. It is VERY heavily moderated and as a result some very, very, good threads get post holed before they have been given the chance to ever fully develop. There is rarely any useful training info posted there. It is mainly a social board. But, it's Brad...

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The AA camp I spent a few days at last year in ND the dogs were mostly finding sharptails and pheasants, and occasional huns.

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Where's the guy who started this thread. Seems Dan v and Greg Jacobs might be right;-) me thinks he might have a twin named Ike:-/

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I'm with you Jetjocky. My two 11 month old pups are just now ready to have birds shot over them. One will get a lot of opportunities this month. The other will have less, but once either goes through the breaking process that will end until fully broke (actually they will Probably get a couple rewar...

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Pretty silly to say someone is scared of wild birds. However, I've got a young derby who I run from foot on wild birds, but I won't kill birds for him this season because I want to keep him broke for spring trials. He's now 21 months old and can handle any bird, wild or pen raised. The derby champio...

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IMO breeding is about matching the best to the best available. Matching, meaning putting a dog with all the right stuff, but a sickle tail to a bitch with all the right stuff, with a straight tail as an example. There is no such thing as a perfect specimen. All dogs have flaws. Their brains, nose, d...

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It scares me terribly when one of my dogs go off their food, it is so rare. They all are ravenous eaters so you know it's serious if they go off. Glad to hear she's okay. Scary deal.

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Wow, I had wondered what happened to his escapades. He was so well thought of on that forum. What a shame....on him.

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No argument here. Just would like to see it proven that there is a measurable difference in a way that I can see it for myself. Not something I can prove, nor anyone I know.

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Bill, I have no doubts you have a healthy specimen fed only on raw food. But, how often do you go out of state, or the country (Canada), to hunt, camping out well off the beaten path? Or paid a handler with 10 or more other dogs to campaign your raw fed dogs? That's my biggest dilemma along with the...

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Luvthemud, I don't think he has an inexhaustible energy supply. The calories he gets from his nighttime meal gets him through his 1-1 1/2 hour workouts. Longer than that and he'll start to slow down. If I gave him too many calories, like say 3000, he'd likely not be able to utilize them from the kib...

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Very true 007. This is a new kibble (new to me, actually been produced for 30 years) I just started feeding my dogs. I've used several high performance dog foods with similar analysis numbers, and without naming names, every one of them caused soft stools, if serving size was slightly too big. Trans...

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I have read that study Ray. I've tried a lot of high fat foods and always had to be careful about rations because too much can cause soft stools. Supposedly this food is better than many at that. I got my hands on a couple of bags and am trying it out right now. I've got some lean dogs that need it....

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Have any of you tried Distance Dog Food?

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Right now he's eating Purina Pro Plan sport 30/20. He doesn't run every day. Some weeks he runs 4-5 days, and others 1-3 days. He is pressed pretty hard when he runs and once you get his metabolism high like it is, he will keep this muscle tone for several weeks, whether you run him or not. He's a n...

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http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m571/Taithoods/coppersmuscle_zpsjwthe8hc.jpg This is my young (19 months old) dog in what I consider peak condition. Just placed in his first field trial. I posted it on another forum talking about endurance and another on a food topic. He's at such a high metabo...

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ezzy333 wrote:I am just a few miles from you and I pigeons available most of the summer. I've sold well over 150 this year.

Sounds like you have found some good flying pigeons, contact ezzy!

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That sucks Cody! My last one was $625 for 3 progesterone tests and surgical implant. And it was done on Christmas day. $200 to ship frozen semen, but we did 2 day shipping. On chilled it would have to be overnight.

Steve

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chuckanut wrote:I just called my vet and they quoted me $185 for a progesterone test. Does that seem a bit high?

Is he/she a reproductive vet? My repro vet does the progesterone test in house for $50 each.

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You will love Brown's book Holly, and likely the expensive one;-). I'd love to hear what you think about both books. I recommend you read every word from the preface forward in Brown's book. Every time I pick it up I get excited about his ability to affirm his logical findings.

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Here's another video, this time of my 19 month old male Copper, and even though he's small in the video, towards the end you get a side view. He is not as smooth as the female I was talking about, but he has a huge stride and doesn't always look like he is going real fast, but he covers ground very ...

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Yes, Curtis Brown's book is the best I've read, and I have several. There's a newer book called "Dogs in Motion" that I'm going to get soon that looks very good as well. Here's a video of the kind of gait I like to see in my pups. He's only 8 months old and averaging 12-13 mph. When he is fully deve...

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$200 to ship frozen semen from KS to UT, $50 each for 3 progesterone tests, and $475 for surgical AI. Got the same litter size as live cover and won't hesitate to do it again as I have one more breeding from that particular stud.

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I don't have a problem with trash breaking after the flush. We have tons of rabbits and hares here too. My 8 month old pointer pups find and chase them for a few jumps then they're off again hunting birds. They prefer birds for obvious reasons but also because when they flush they can see them and c...

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I personally wouldn't "buzz" any dog while he's pointing anything.

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Like Sharon said, you should be able to tell the difference in his points. Probably have his nose lower, closer to the ground on a rabbit point.

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I spoke with the biologist in "bleep" the other day. He said the numbers are down from last year, and a couple years prior to that. So, might be a bit tougher to find the birds, but that won't keep me from going.

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Exactly my point. It comes down to selection! Articulate or poor. You point out exactly why people in general shouldn't line breed. However, some are very good at it! This is just a big loop so I'll get out now. Good luck with your like type to like type breeding, it should serve you and your client...

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I only want to learn myself, no interest in arguing. Inbreeding is what created this male you speak of that you are now using a second time with this female. There's obviously something that you see in him and his puppies, or you wouldn't use him again. Could those qualities you see in him have been...

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Sounds like a prepotent male passing down his genes. Sounds like the bitch is line bred for four generations? I would agree it sounds like an outcross, a lot of unknowns in these experiments. I don't really believe you need to know more about genetics than what you can learn from the racing pigeon a...

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Maybe ezzy, but you should have seen them when they were born, all identical in size. Not much to do with mothers milk!

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Here's an example of what you might see with line breeding. One of my growth charts at 7 weeks old on a litter of 8 puppies, 5 males, 3 females. Male-9lbs, 15 ounces Male-9lbs, 11 ounces Male-9lbs, 6 ounces Male-9lbs, 1 ounce Male-8lbs, 12 ounces Female-9lbs, 12 ounces Female-9lbs, 3 ounces Female-8...

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Most people have a negative opinion of inbreeding or linebreeding, but no actual knowledge about it, including some veterinarians. If I mention a tight breeding to someone they always say "you're going to get two-headed puppies" or something silly like that. With inbreeding or outcrossing you have t...

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Now, If we would discuss how they put the Grit and retrieve into the EP that would be interesting. It was not by inbreeding. Well second or third generation maybe. Good thing there was not DNA testing in those Days. Cj This is a good question and I can only answer in a way that I cannot say is fact...

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Well, I definitely don't know it all, not even 1% of genetics. But I can't say I've learned anything on this thread. Just fun to read people's comments and experiences. What I know, I've learned through research and raising puppies.

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Wehle and Miller clearly understood, that is why they produced many litters, Maybe some of the puppies exceeded their expectations, Probably not and some were were eliminated. I never knew Miller, But, I had many conversations with Wehle. He was the breeder of my first and last pointer. One of the ...

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