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The standards seem to be pretty inconsistent on this board. Apparently it is ok to insult the entire population of Breeders who make use of limited registration by posting it is an automatic reason to avoid them, but when someone with good experience with a Breeder using limited registration cries ...

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You have excellent experience , but there is a way to have a good discussion with out insulting people. Start spreading that standard around evenly to all and things will likely improve. I have been buying pointer puppies for over fifty years. I have NEVER purchased a puppy without a complete and u...

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As long as the quail are not right net to the dog it should not be a problem travelling with both. As far as keeping them overnight, you really don't need to feed or water them in a formal sense. If you cut up a half head of iceberg lettuce, that should provide all the food and water the birds will ...

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work - Couple of things...first and foremost...do not be afraid of using a blank pistol. It is NOT a firearm(and this is per FEDERAL law) and unless there is some sort of noise ordinance that prevents folks from using child's capguns, the police have no grounds to say anything, because a capgun is e...

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Guys - There are lots of ways to get from here to there with a bird dog. None of them are perfect. You do what you can do with the situation you find yourself in. The goal should be to have the dog steady to wing. If you want steady to wing shot and fall...great... but steady to wing is all a hunter...

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Work - I suggest you get a small cage or two for the new birds. I purchased a couple a few years ago from a mail order place. . Can't recall where. This way you can "plant" a bird in a cage and the dog cannot get to the bird. Then, when your dog points the bird in the cage, you can walk in and flush...

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work - Just a thought. You said you were on friendly terms with the young lady that released your pigeons. If so, you might consider calling her or knocking on her door and smoothing over some of the rough spots. She probably thought she was doing something good by letting those flying rats loose an...

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hi i have 2 chow chows n i have been feeding them Diamond puppy dry dog food for a week . and i was wondering were there any body out there ever use that source of dog food. and is it a good source of dog food it has 31 protein and 20 fat... if have any info could you PLEASE HELP me out... There ar...

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I stopped using PPP 30/20 because I kept getting bags with worms in them. I switched to Kinetic Dog Food and my dogs seem to be doing great on it. A few of my other friends made the switch and are happy. I order from chewy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Never heard of that. I have never had wo...

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I actually look forward to the warmer weather when I have a youngster. I do lots of different yardwork but lean heavily on heel/whoa drills. When I was young and limber I would put a dog in a roading harness, strap on a weightlifter's belt and attach the dog to me. I would walk the dog and watch it ...

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Willmon1 - Welcome aboard. Something you can do with a slip lead is a heel/whoa drill after the manner of Paul Long. I prefer to use a waxed cotton lead like the Smith "wonder lead", because the waxed cotton has a "spring" to it which makes both the correction and reward almost instantaneous. Howeve...

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bamanick- Hi and welcome to the wonderful world of field trialing. First let me say this for perspective. You have a six month old pup. Most of the dogs in the puppy stake are probably close to twice your youngster's age. Second let me say that you need to keep focus on what you are doing, why you a...

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I also live near an Amish community outside of Dover, DE. For several years I had an arrangement with a local Amish farmer(actually his youngest son until he moved away, and later with his older brother who stayed to work the farm). I paid $2( and later, increased eventually to $3) each for barn pig...

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Good Lord! This has been an unbelievable stretch of weather hereabouts also, but nothing like what you are getting. Since the fall it has been screwy. Up, down, sideways and backward, pretty much all at the same time. Just nuts. We are looking at 70+ degrees this weekend up in NJ and the dogs will h...

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Don'cha just love it when a plan comes together? Way to go!

Good for all you folks who are letting a puppy fire you up. Feed off that energy...feed off that drive and desire...cherish every day.

RayG

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FMJ - I hunt and trial behind pointers...FDSB American Field bred pointers. They are, of course, not without some genetic issues...no breed is. However, most of those issues are unrelated to performance. The reason for that is quite simple. Pointers are bred for one purpose...to seek and find birds....

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If I purchase an automobile or a house or a lawnmower, it does not come with a "provisional" bill of sale. If I rent/lease and automobile, house or lawnmower, I sign a contract spelling out the terms of the lease/rental and the responsibilities of both parties. THEN, I pay the monthly fee. If I purc...

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I truly think the answer to your question is: "IT DEPENDS". If the dog is hunting up one side, almost out of sight, crossing over, hunting down the other side(on the right side of the wind, hopefully) and then turning in front of you to make another loop... that(IMO) is a fairly ideal pattern for a ...

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deke --0 I have told this story before, but I think it may bear repeating. I took one of my pointers in for a rabies vaccination. It was, I think, in Late October or early November, so the dog was in absolutely peak physical shape...ready to run for an hour in front of a horse. The vet tech was visi...

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Porochi - There is no medical reason to neuter a normal, healthy male dog. Period...end of story. Neutering a 3 year old dog will likely have zero effect on its personality and level of activity. Do what you want with your dog, but I personally would never set foot in a "dog park" for a whole host o...

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Porochi - I have a saying about dog training...it goes like this: I like to install the brakes and steering on my race car before I take it out onto the track and hit the gas. I tend to get less wrecks that way. it is the same with bird dogs. They need brakes and steering. They get that in the yard,...

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deke - sent you a PM...don't know if it went thru. Anyhow, do NOT screw around with the biting thing. Be the momma dog and do what she would do. slistoe and cjhills have that right. I have been known to bite the puppy back, and not easy either. You gotta make it hurt somewhat or the pup is not gonna...

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JUST WAIT - Your new vet will probably give you a song and dance about neutering/spaying on one of your future visits. I agree with the others. A 30/20 performance feed like Pro Plan is a OUTSTANDING food for a growing puppy. You are your own best reference if you have been doing it that way for yea...

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We go over this time and again. The story has not changed. Purina is in the forefront of animal food science. Dogs, cats, horses, cattle, goats, chickens...whatever. They actually do have farms and laboratories and scientists doing research on real live animals to find out what is better than what t...

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The dog has to learn to be patient. The dog has to learn to be calm. The dog has to learn that WILL do what you ask it to do. As to the how... You need to be patient. A fellow once told me when training a horse if you go about it like you have fifteen minutes it may take you all day. But if you go a...

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I don't feed it either, but it looks OK to me. It is most definitely NOT a cut rate feed, with those protein and fat levels. High levels of protein and fat do cost what they cost. I did some checking and it appears that the product is made for Costco by Diamond Pet, which is a major pet food company...

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Pretty plain Jane here. Used a magnum Browning humpback in 20 ga. with a 26' IC barrel for a lot of years on upland game. Never once fired a 3" shell through it, but thought I should have the option. Never felt I needed more than a 20 for upland since I did my thing behind pointing dogs. About 25 ye...

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The traveling would be usually 1hour+. Quite a few 5 hour trips and 1 maybe 2 that are around 10 hours. I was thinking intermediate should work okay. Say he gets the size of his sire, Tell, and get to 68-70 lbs would that size still work? Might be a little tight if he tips the scales at 70#. Still ...

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+1 on the intermediate Ruff Tuff. It is all you should need, unless your GSP becomes a giant. I have had 60+ lb. pointers that fits in intermediates just fine. You don't want dogs moving around in travel crates when you are transporting. that is how they get hurt. You want them laying down and quiet...

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ON Honker Hunter - You wrote: "Our choice of hunting dogs is definitely apples and oranges. I want to be able to watch my dogs work ... with the naked eye, not binoculars. I prefer a close relationship." Be careful...you bias, and lack of knowledge is showing. Do not assume Just so you know, I can(a...

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I think you may be wrong with that sentence...plenty of geezers and geezettes here with training days that preceded ecollars. I well remember those old days, and much prefer the kinder gentler methods available now because of "something between me and my dog". I came by my gray hair honestly and I ...

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Every puppy I have ever had, has been fed a 30/20 puppy diet. I have had no problems. When I had a litter I ground up the kibble in a blender and fed it to the pups(and momma) mixed into warm water along with a healthy dollop of Whole milk(4% fat) cottage cheese. I did it this way to minimize throwi...

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A 1 in 4 cancer rate seems crazy high to me. The rate for mammary cancers in dogs is about 8%. So roughly 1 in 12 female dogs develop mammary cancers. Of those, 1 in 4 will be bitches spayed after the second heat cycle. I agree... the percentages 0.6%, 1% and 3% incidence have to be relative to the...

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So as long as spayed before 2 yrs old you reduce chances of mammary cancer? Does it make a difference if done before or after first heat cycle? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Spay before the first heat cycle is the biggest reduction of chances of mammary cancer. It is also the highest risk of c...

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I like her speed as well. She is a small dog with long legs and gets around really fast. I am more confident after reading the many replys that she will be fine as she is. I will work a little with a release system in order to get her to whoa a little further out but she is a smart dog and as state...

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Using a collar with tone, vibration and stimulation available what do you guys use, and for what. I am think of using the vibration as a warning before using the stim. Then using the tone like the whistle where 3 tweets is for here, 2 is for sit, or whoa, and one is change direction. How are you gu...

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Nmhuntr - When I am steadying a youngster, I have it on a 20 ft. checkcord and bring it in, downwind and perpendicular to the scent cone of a bird planted in a remote launcher. This way, I know... precisely... where the bird is and where the scent cone is. I know again, precisely, where the dog SHOU...

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Congrats on the new pup. Puppy breath is the bomb. As far as names are concerned, I like names that start with a "B", as they come out sharp and forceful. I avoid names that start with an "S" or a "P" because that tends to lead to spitting although I did name one "Star" and to me...she was. I have a...

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Hi Phil and welcome - I think you may be coming to the realization that a bird dog like a GSP is wired a little different than the g3erman Shepherds you are familiar with. A bird dog is hard wired to "seek game" and is often much less concerned with the whereabouts of its owner than A guard dog migh...

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Just thought of this. There is a US Complete walking trial being held in King William, VA. Here is the info on it. Category USCSDA Trials Location King William, VA Date Mar 02, 2019 Time 7:00 AM Kirk Regensburg—(804) 543-3470, 8178 Holly Ln., Mechanicsville, VA 23111 Now this is NOT an AKC trial, bu...

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Redman- I have had pointers exclusively. Never owned a setter. Seen lots of good ones in both breeds. But based on what you want to do with the dog, I would say that it matters much less which breed. I would focus more on finding someone who breeds dogs that succeed in doing a lot of what you want a...

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This one is in Birdoggers sweet spot, but I would start looking at east coast shooting dog and cover dog litters. Redman - For what you want I agree with Pedro. I would start calling walking shooting dog(US Complete and NBHA) trailers and handlers this spring and see what is planned. I would also c...

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ISO - I don't do NSTRA myself, so I took a quick look at the scoring. It appears that the dog must at least establish and hold point. As previously mentioned it is also expected to retrieve and to back. Honestly, if your dog is not at least decently reliable in those three areas you are probably was...

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Timewise - Disclaimer....Your mileage may vary.... If the dog is of the age where it can take the training, a dog can be steadied to wing and shot over a summer. Many are. Whether you consider that dog trained sufficiently for hunting, depends very much on what you yourself require of the dog. It va...

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I'm a bit new, so I'll ask a question. Why would you want to stop a flusher? Isn't that what they do? If a flusher is chasing a running pheasant (or grouse, etc.) and you stop the dog, then the bird will run into the next county. A flusher's job is to catch or at least make the running bird think i...

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I can't answer for your particular area, as I live on the migration path for these birds. However, I suggest you look for damp wooded areas where worms will thrive. Timberdoodles feed on worms and probe the ground for them with their beaks...so the ground has to be somewhat soft. Alongside streambed...

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chaynes - I did a quick checkof trials and test in VA and found about a half dozen or so events in the next couple of months that you might want to attend. Some were at "bleep" Cross which is pretty far south but there were trials or tests in Summerduck, Caret and Dilwyn, VA that had amateur puppy s...

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Pedro wrote:With all due respect to the assembled knowledge of this board, the first place I'd look for advice would be Ross Callaway, breeder and owner of Jack prior to selling him to Dr. Corder, and Don Wiggins.

I wholeheartedly agree with the above.

RayG

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Setter1 - Three years ago I bought a male pup from Mike Husenits. the sire was Erin's War Creek and the dam was Braveheart Cassie. War Creek's pedigree is easily available. Cassie is by Erin's Braveheart(Bad River out of Sinbad/Wiggins) out of a Fibber/Caladen gyp. I don't know which side gets the c...

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We have shot 100s of wild birds over pointing dogs wearing beepers. Sometimes 3 or4 dogs at once all wearing beepers pointing and backing. We never seemed to have a problem with birds running once the dogs establish a point. Unfortunately I can't hear them any more. Fortunately there are better way...

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