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by rinker
Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:31 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Quail Recall
Replies: 2
Views: 1597

Re: Quail Recall

I think your set up will work. The birds will cross the road. Once they start recalling, they should come in from a couple of hundred yards with no problem. There is one issue, the birds will be exposed as they cross the road. Hawks and other predators can pick them off with greater ease as they cro...
by rinker
Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:06 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Do recall pens for quail really work
Replies: 4
Views: 2465

Re: Do recall pens for quail really work

Yes, it absolutely works. Google 'johnny house', and you should see a lot of designs. I find this works best when you start with young quail, somewhere between 8 and 12 weeks. Leave them in the pen for a week or ten days. Then start letting a few birds out each day for a week or ten days. Then start...
by rinker
Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:10 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Astro 220
Replies: 7
Views: 3574

Re: Astro 220

I'm still using a 220 with two DC30 collars. The system works great. When it breaks, I will upgrade.
by rinker
Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:09 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Shy Dog and pigeons
Replies: 14
Views: 5762

Re: Shy Dog and pigeons

Your situation is not all that unusual. I suspect that a little time will solve it all. I wouldn't push it. I would run the pup a lot and show him a bird once a week or so until the light comes on. I have had a few dogs that had no interest in pigeons ever. They did great with quail. There is one th...
by rinker
Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:37 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Pointing remote bird launchers
Replies: 11
Views: 6422

Re: Pointing remote bird launchers

The dog may have learned to point the scent of the launcher instead of the bird. Go out and do everything as you normally do, just don't put a bird in the launcher, set an empty launcher in the field. Run the dog past this, there is a good chance he will point it. Just keep going and call to him unt...
by rinker
Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:51 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Bird Dog Wars
Replies: 104
Views: 88336

Re: Bird Dog Wars

I suspect that the target audience for this show is not us. The hard core bird hunter/field trialer is such a small demographic, there is no way it would be profitable to produce a television show with us as the target market. The video that Mr Favor posted is a great video and I loved it. The probl...
by rinker
Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:56 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Where do I go from here? Training went horribly wrong
Replies: 9
Views: 4681

Re: Where do I go from here? Training went horribly wrong

http://www.thefieldtrialer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6031 I essentially agree with the other posters. You are right about one thing, you can not train a bird dog without birds. Go ahead and build yourself a simple pigeon coop and get you a few pigeons started. With a little scrap lumber you cou...
by rinker
Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:09 pm
Forum: Birds & Bird Supplies
Topic: Pigeon flying in winter?
Replies: 5
Views: 7152

Re: Pigeon flying in winter?

For me, hawk losses are much greater during the winter months. I don't fly my pigeons as much in the winter due to this.
by rinker
Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:42 am
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: Dog stuff never on sale
Replies: 7
Views: 5027

Re: Dog stuff never on sale

http://members.boardhost.com/Buy-An-Sel ... 79577.html

I ran across this today. It looks like some good deals on training collars.
by rinker
Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:27 pm
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: Dog stuff never on sale
Replies: 7
Views: 5027

Re: Dog stuff never on sale

Are you talking about electronics? Like ecollars, gps collars, launchers, etc... Talk to professional field trialers, or very serious amateur field trialers. These folks occasionally win an ecollar system, or tracking collar system as part of winning a field trial. They typically sell these at a pre...
by rinker
Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pointing Lab Training Videos
Replies: 8
Views: 3346

Re: Pointing Lab Training Videos

"Are the pups sold on the basis of.... the sire and dam points so maybe the pups will too ?"

Isn't this the basis that Pointers, E Setters, GSP's, etc... are sold on?
by rinker
Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:07 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Dog Losing Interest
Replies: 23
Views: 7112

Re: Dog Losing Interest

I have no problem with someone selling a dog, but I would love to hear the sales pitch for this one.
by rinker
Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:56 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Anyone send their pup to training? In MICHIGAN
Replies: 10
Views: 5037

Re: Anyone send their pup to training? In MICHIGAN

I would contact these folks. http://www.hifivekennels.com/ I think they go south every winter. If you sent your dog on that trip, he would be on birds all winter while it is too cold and the snow too deep to do it in Michigan.
by rinker
Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:26 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Do you let an 8 month old ep chase rabbits or nic them
Replies: 7
Views: 3483

Re: Do you let an 8 month old ep chase rabbits or nic them

This answer is assuming that you don't want to hunt rabbits with the dog. I would do nothing, I would not encourage it, or discourage it. As the dog matures and finds more game birds, he will forget about rabbits and mice and sparrows, etc... The only off game that I would correct him for is deer.
by rinker
Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:57 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Looking for a place to start
Replies: 3
Views: 1806

Re: Looking for a place to start

www.sqdog.com, is where you need to look for information.
by rinker
Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:12 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Releasing Birds - Need some advice
Replies: 9
Views: 4991

Re: Releasing Birds - Need some advice

search the forum for 'johnny house'.
by rinker
Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:12 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Why I Send My Dogs North
Replies: 31
Views: 12328

Re: Why I Send My Dogs North

I have not sent every dog that I have owned North, but I have sent some. If one seems to be 'special', I try to find a way to send them for one summer. I do the basic yard work at home. I try to have them broke on pigeons, by the time I send them. I also try to have them handling well and in pretty ...
by rinker
Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:14 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Concrete for dog runs
Replies: 6
Views: 2205

Re: Concrete for dog runs

I had a concrete floored kennel built years ago. It was on kind of a hillside and it dropped two full feet, in sixteen feet of length. I loved it having that much of a slope, it dried in minutes most of the year. I told my contractor to finish it smooth. He didn't communicate this to his employees a...
by rinker
Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:10 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Field Trial Questions
Replies: 11
Views: 3830

Re: Field Trial Questions

Because you are talking about retrieving, I assume you are asking about NSTRA trials? Based on where you live, however, you would also have opportunities to enter cover dog trials. These are two pretty different things. My only advice would be to take your time. Pushing to be 'field trial ready' at ...
by rinker
Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:36 am
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: Reality
Replies: 18
Views: 10092

Re: Reality

I thought that I have been very fortunate because I haven't had to deal with any really tragic injuries. Reading this may have changed my mind. I now think my dogs have been exercising an abundance of caution. They know I'm not going to spend thousands of dollars on them. I would just start over wit...
by rinker
Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:33 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How Old for Kids?
Replies: 17
Views: 6614

Re: How Old for Kids?

I had one of those strollers that joggers use when my son was a baby. I don't know exactly how young I started taking him, maybe six months. Now, this wasn't hard core hunting, it was running dogs and having fun. Most of the time I didn't take a gun. When he was about three, he started carrying a to...
by rinker
Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:14 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: In need of advise
Replies: 8
Views: 3427

Re: In need of advise

I know that $20 sounds crazy for a pigeon, but my suggestion would be to buy four of them, two males/two females. Yes, I know that is an initial investment of $80. Put those four in a coop and keep them fed and watered. In eight weeks or so, you will have four squeakers. Put the squeakers in a separ...
by rinker
Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:22 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Local Registration
Replies: 4
Views: 3293

Re: Local Registration

You need to move.
by rinker
Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:21 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: In need of advise
Replies: 8
Views: 3427

Re: In need of advise

You need a johnny house at your training grounds. You can probably get by with feeding and watering birds once a week or so. You will lose a few to hawks, but that is the way it goes.
by rinker
Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:57 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Those who worm a dog I need advice
Replies: 16
Views: 8964

Re: Those who worm a dog I need advice

I have been using the zimectrin paste monthly on 5 to 8 dogs for 25 years. My dogs have never had heart worms or an adverse reaction.
by rinker
Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:04 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Snake in the yard
Replies: 37
Views: 14055

Re: Snake in the yard

I fully realize that snakes have a place in the environment, and they can do beneficial things like control rodent populations. Their place, however, is not in my yard, barn, or kennel. I find a few snakes each year somewhere around my yard, and I whack them with a shovel.
by rinker
Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:03 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Communication With Your Trainer
Replies: 17
Views: 9032

Re: Communication With Your Trainer

There is a younger generation of trainers that utilize social media, texting, photos, videos, etc... There is also still some of the old school guys around that do not communicate a lot. I currently have a dog with an old school trainer. They are on the prairie and I'm sure that cell reception is sp...
by rinker
Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:03 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Dog pointing too far from bird?
Replies: 30
Views: 14345

Re: Dog pointing too far from bird?

I think that he/she is talking about 'stop to flush' drills.
by rinker
Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:37 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Puppy training question
Replies: 6
Views: 3092

Re: Puppy training question

I wouldn't worry about it either way. It isn't going to happen often, if ever again.
by rinker
Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:21 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Field Trial Setters, who are the major players?
Replies: 11
Views: 7510

Re: Field Trial Setters, who are the major players?

It sounds like your looking for a Shadow Oak Bo pup.
by rinker
Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:08 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Feral pigs
Replies: 20
Views: 9514

Re: Feral pigs

I raise a few pigs for my family, and smaller pigs can be escape artists. I have had pigs that could get out, and then by feeding time be back in the pen. I'm certain that most of my neighbors do not realize that I have pigs. I'm not hiding it, but I don't regularly talk to all of my neighbors. I wo...
by rinker
Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:22 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Dog pointing too far from bird?
Replies: 30
Views: 14345

Re: Dog pointing too far from bird?

I generally agree with everyone else, but there is another possibility. Your pup may have figured out the game. He may be pointing because he knows there is a bird out there, whether he smells it or not. The next time you work him, do everything exactly the same except don't put a bird in your launc...
by rinker
Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:20 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Puppy/dog affordability
Replies: 17
Views: 6266

Re: Puppy/dog affordability

I think the generalizations that you are making are crazy. Yes, it takes a certain amount of income to pay for dog food and basic veterinary expenses. I don't think, however, that those people below a certain income level are worse dog/pet owners in general. Back in the late eighties through early n...
by rinker
Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:39 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Feral pigs
Replies: 20
Views: 9514

Re: Feral pigs

Turkeys can tear up the ground also.

If it is pigs, it may not be 'wild' pigs. You may check around, somebody's pigs may have gotten out.
by rinker
Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:27 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Whoa Post Advice
Replies: 5
Views: 3305

Re: Whoa Post Advice

In my experience, the bigger the fit they throw in the beginning the faster and better that they learn this. I have had a couple of dogs over the years that just walked until the rope was tight and just stopped, no fit no wining, they just accepted it the first time. It took these dogs much longer t...
by rinker
Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:02 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Shortening Up a Big Running Bird dog
Replies: 26
Views: 9751

Re: Shortening Up a Big Running Bird dog

Mr. Hills, I just explained what I do and what works for me. I'm not trying to convince you to do anything. The first person that I ever heard about running puppies and tossing pigeons the way that I described is Ferrel Miller. I have seen a photo somewhere of Ferrel and Ike Todd on horseback with a...
by rinker
Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:14 am
Forum: Birds & Bird Supplies
Topic: Letting birds fly
Replies: 4
Views: 6118

Re: Letting birds fly

As long as you are providing them food and water, they should come back. I had a small pigeon loft at my former house. I moved, but kept the house as a rental property. I owned the house for about four more years, but didn't live there. When I finally sold the house, I was there cleaning it out, and...
by rinker
Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:09 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Shortening Up a Big Running Bird dog
Replies: 26
Views: 9751

Re: Shortening Up a Big Running Bird dog

An e-collar has no place in correcting a dog for range. When a dog starts getting out of a range that I am comfortable with, I will call to the dog. If the dog does not respond, then I will correct with the ecollar. The key here is is the whistle commands and hand signals To turn left,right To whoa/...
by rinker
Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:12 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Shortening Up a Big Running Bird dog
Replies: 26
Views: 9751

Re: Shortening Up a Big Running Bird dog

I'm a foot hunter and small time weekend foot field trialer. When I start walking a 9-10 week old puppy through light cover I carry a piece of 1 inch or so pvc pipe, the pipe is about three feet long and has a string about three feet long tied through a hole in the end of it. I tie a pigeon's leg to...
by rinker
Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:30 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Using Boxers in Field Trials??
Replies: 9
Views: 6108

Re: Using Boxers in Field Trials??

I would think that if Mike Tyson, or Ray Leonard, or even Rocky Balboa wanted to enter their pointing dog in a field trial that they would be allows to handle their own dogs.
by rinker
Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:43 am
Forum: Training
Topic: 5 month old Vizsla training
Replies: 8
Views: 5164

Re: To train or not to train?

It depends on what the trainer is going to do. If the trainer is going to run the pup and maybe work on pattern a little in areas with birds and let the pup knock and chase, then it may be a great idea. If the trainer is actually trying to break the dog at this point, then I think it is too early.
by rinker
Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:13 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Slip tie breeding results?
Replies: 7
Views: 5866

Re: Slip tie breeding results?

I don't think that you are going to have puppies.
by rinker
Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:57 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Summer Camp Question
Replies: 12
Views: 5238

Re: Summer Camp Question

I have sent 8 to 10 dogs North for the summer over the years. I have used 4 different pro's. I have had a wide range of experiences. Most of the dogs that I have sent came back in great shape and much better trained than when they left. I think that a few hundred wild bird contacts will do great thi...
by rinker
Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:26 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Wild birds
Replies: 21
Views: 8649

Re: Wild birds

I think that if I had unlimited access to wild birds that I would have no problem breaking a dog without them ever seeing a pigeon or pen raised quail. Unfortunately, I doubt that I'm ever going to find out.
by rinker
Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:22 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Bird shy dog
Replies: 21
Views: 10870

Re: Bird shy dog

Forget about birds for at least a few months. Run the dog frequently through varied types of cover if possible. Pay attention and some point the dog should start to pay attention to or may chase song birds or doves, etc... Then go back to quail, but do it slowly and let the dog decide the pace.
by rinker
Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:07 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Erin's Kentucky Gambler Stud Fee For Sale
Replies: 6
Views: 2990

Re: Erin's Kentucky Gambler Stud Fee For Sale

Where is this dog located? Where would one have to take or send his female for breeding?
by rinker
Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:06 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Wild birds
Replies: 21
Views: 8649

Re: Wild birds

You have a great situation. A lot of professional trainers and serious amateurs travel great distances to spend the summer working on wild birds. Here is my somewhat over simplified recommendation. Run your dog as often as possible. Let him find, point, knock, and chase as many birds as possible. Ev...
by rinker
Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:41 am
Forum: Birds & Bird Supplies
Topic: Those who use Johnny Houses,
Replies: 6
Views: 7407

Re: Those who use Johnny Houses,

How well do they work? I think a johnny house is one of the best tools a dog trainer can have, unless they have unlimited access to wild birds. I have had much better success when i start out with young birds. I try to buy ten week old birds to put in my johnny house. I usually put them in there in ...
by rinker
Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:44 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How Much Would you Pay for a Pup?
Replies: 100
Views: 50427

Re: How Much Would you Pay for a Pup?

I currently have five E Pointers, and one E Setter. The five pointers are all directly out of or very close up to dogs that are winning or have won at the highest levels of horseback all-age trials. I paid a grand total of $75, for all of them combined, including the Setter. I am certainly not a bre...
by rinker
Tue May 19, 2015 10:32 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Shadow Oak Bo offsping
Replies: 14
Views: 8942

Re: Shadow Oak Bo offsping

I am a pointer man and a small time weekend foot trialer. I have seen four or five Shadow Oak Bo pups. I thought they looked tremendous. I would not mind trying one although I have never paid four figures for a puppy.