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Great bell,no problem hearing this bell at 250+ yards clear as day even in the thickest, windiest and many folds/ridges of new england.

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Ive ran the 320/dc40 for years, no complaints in a myriad of terrain/weather. If it doesnt fit, just punch some new holes in it, no big deal.

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Regular bobs that are flight conditioned are good as any.

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Beautiful, I always wanted to cast and blast the Deschutes. Saw a lot of quail, chucker and some pheasant there, not to mention ducks.

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I hunt pointers for grouse/woodcock, and some preserve pheasant during heavy snow years. Although I will shoot a hare that they point. Smart dogs that have a 100-250 yard range in the grouse woods and 50 yards in the preserve. They have retrieved ducks, geese and are steady in the blind during water...

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It has been between 3 and 13F here, the rivers are mostly iced up, slush and anchor ice on surface and bottom. Still a lot of big ducks and geese around. We have been retrieving our own since the cold snap, although we had a couple ducks get sucked under the shelf ice, id imagine a dog could meet th...

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Thanks for bringing up a 7 year dead thread to plug your Facebook page and spread the dogma that a lab that blinks a flush is a superior dog. You must hunt hard pressured birds in PA or NY that don't hold point for any longer than a few seconds. Please...

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twistedoak wrote:woodcock aren't exactly known for running...

Hunt them much?

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Pointing dog; "Training with Mo", produces honest , reliable, and self made bird dogs.

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I don't know what duck search means ? I hunt English pointers broke for grouse/woodcock but also preserve hunt pheasant/chuckar, steady waterfowl hunt (ducks/geese) and use the same English pointers to find canines and bobcats that are trapped and are tangled on drags. Again, not sure if I can help ...

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I would buy the birds to use in a controlled area and guarantee the outcome as per your training beliefs. Get your bird work in, get your gun breaking in and work on any weaknesses. Birds are good for the dog, but to many are not, as always quit a winner on a high note.

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Planted birds in launchers will be great for when your dog gets some age and the ability to take pressure when a correction is needed. Then you will have the summer training season on wild birds a month or two before the season opens up. Even then if the dog does good and stands broke, heel him out ...

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What species of birds and what kind of terrain do you hunt? Its easier on both, you and the dog to develop a closer range than it is to train one. Training a closer working range requires pressure and bird finding ability may suffer. With that being said, developing a closer range would be to have t...

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I'm partial to english pointers and have had some that pointed rabbits. You could train for rabbit pointing, thats no problem. Not holding point so well could be the dog caught birds, or has not had a lot of birds shot over it. Just hunt it more and shoot only points. Getting a dog to find game and ...

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Conditioning mostly, handling from foot or vehicle a little bit and maybe some bird work.

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I take my dogs (pointers) everywhere with me, fishing, job sites, trapline and gatherings. The wife takes them to her friends house during the day, errand running and to the park with the kids. I still road them several times a week and work on handling/bird work only a few times a month with no iss...

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I wonder how many of Y'all can 'say' SIT when you have your back to the dog and the dog actually sits ? :lol: ........That would be without any other reference of course ,like a nick of a collar or tug of a lead or gesture with your body . :mrgreen: : I just tried that and had the dog sit with my b...

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Not a good thing for the grouse around here in PA/NY.

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Sounds like what the other posters said and that's confusion. The circling and leaving point certainly sounds like blinking is beginning. The dog is leaving the scent cone for fear of what comes next. Id go back to killing birds and not turning the collar on, just let the dog wear it. No rush, take ...

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The dog was not running through them , he pointed them hard but would break when I walked in which he does not do on quail. By the end of season he was handling them very well. Running birds he had some trouble with but he figured them out. I would never shot a bird that wasn't handled properly. I ...

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"Dog breaking:The most expeditious, Certain and Easy Method" William Nelson Hutchinson "Practical Education of the Bird Dog" J.A.Sanchez Antunano "Training with Mo" Martha Greenlee The first is a good read, just a step back in time, makes you realize the more things change the more they stay the sam...

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polmaise wrote:For more than 100 years Hounds are 'Coupled' with an older dog .
Well, here anyway.
If anything ,it stops anything 'Independent' .

Devilscreek is hung up on your usage of hound.

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If you can find homes for all the pups, go for it.

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He did post an essay, and it was deleted. Hotspotting/spot burning doesn't really occur if you play by the you show me a spot and I'll show you a spot philosophy. Only times I ever got burned was when I didn't play by that. Any newbies I take now come to private land spots only, as they can't be tru...

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Do your videos have no sound? Maybe my device is squirrely?

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http://www.gundogsupply.com/training-with-mo.html

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Is he gun broke yet? If not start with a blank and move up to a shotgun when he chases. Once you have that complete, stop what you are doing and get your dog on a proven program. The popular programs have many followers on this board and if you has trouble on a specific process, ask away. Breaking a...

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Early season you are good to hunt grouse an hour after sunrise. Today we had a dozen and half woodcock, and 6 grouse finds before 10oclock. After the snows come the birds begin budding in the morning and then come down to refuge cover around 10 am or stay up in pines if its real nasty out, coming do...

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I would definetly join your local navdha chapter, especially if this is your first pointer. Also get some different books on training methods or programs that offer DVD's. A small kitbox style pigeon loft and half a dozen homers would be of greet help too.

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Great pics and write up!

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Not creeping, a smart dog understands the smell of different gamebirds in regards to situations, but this comes from development. Most of my dogs poit woodcock at 3-10 yards and grouse at 10-15 yards. At times a woodcock will lift 25 yards ahead of the dog, those little things do run. Also many time...

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LCS northwoods bell here, and a GPS.

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Like the other posters, find the birdiest place you can find and get the dog in there often, quitting when he is most jacked up. As for the peeing issue, ignore it and find some birds.

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I am not sure what program you are following. Either way I would go back to launchers/releasers and a checkcord with an e-collar , should the dog be collar conditioned. Go back to upwind stop to flushes and end on a good note. Proceed to standing and you kicking around upwind and flushing a bird, le...

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I am an advocate for newbies to get a broke or well started dog. I'm sure you can find a 5-7 year old broke dog that a plantation, trialer or breeder would let go for next to nothing. Definetly get some books, DVd's, go to a seminar and join an organization specific to your desires. Next dog get a p...

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3 hours even when I hunt outside NY.

Good read about NYS grouse/woodcock, and an excellent starting point when seeking birds in NY.
http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/107146.html

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Mnaj, had good advice on finding a good walking trial bred foot hunting line of pointers. You are fairly close to a lot of good kennels. Every dog is different but start with the ones that are predisposed to do what you want, have a lot of handle and brains to match. Those CT pheasant won't stand a ...

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Was it windy and warm/dry? If tou have been putting pressure on her she is blinking the bird due to, to much pressure to get her to hold point.Sounds soft and is a bit young, hunt the season and only shoot solid points, keep your mouth shut. Spring ,ease back into the training with stop to flush (no...

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Whoa breaking doesn't have anything to do with birds, steadiness is a process that usually ends with a dog being steady to wing and shot. This comes from repeated exposure to birds that won't tolerate crowding. Short answer is only shoot birds your dog lets you flush. They learn real quick the only ...

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I did a day trip to the NZ Friday. Fished a run first light and swung one king on an intruder, some gear guys showed up , and it was time to hit the woods. Hunted for a bit , pointed 2 and had a wild flush. Ended up with one bird in the bag, a towering left to right shot. Had lunch and a siesta then...

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If you were a proficient , competetive shooter , I feel the muscle memory will be there like any sport requiring hand /eye coordination. Pending any major weight gain/loss that may affect LOP/comb support or a new firearm, you should be fine.It is fun to shoot a round or two in August/September at t...

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That was the video I had in mind too, several months late in thanking ,haha but thanks!

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Doesn anyone know if a NASBLA boating certificate from NY would be accecpted by the state of GA?

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Strideaway.com/podcasts/ has some good ones. As does orvis for flyfishing.

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Is the dog gun broke? Otherwise, dizzy the bird a bit, if you do it correctly only half the birds will stay. Throw the bird in whatever gamebird you choose to hunt''s primary habitat. If the dog points and lets you flush it, great. If it doesn't point or bumps the bird, that's fine too. Let the dog ...

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As others have said, hawks are an issue regarding losses. For much of the north east once the smaller perching birds return and provide more food items for the hawks they are less of a concern. Id say fly them until you have an issue then lock the birds up for a week, when there are limited food ite...

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I hunt a lot of ruffed grouse and woodcock in New England as well as South Carolina. Mostly I hunt from the road on foot or idling from a truck and have the dog hunt the cover, depending on stem density , bird population , terrain and past experience this can bring the dogs anywhere from 50-300 yard...

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A few years ago there was a really good one with a lemon English pointer pointing, flushing on command , backing and retrieving on command. It appeared to be in eastern Europe, on planted pheasant. Looked all over one day on multiple message boards and could never find it again. I think the dogs nam...

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It doesn't matter, so long as their predisposed charactoristics suit your needs in terms of range, desire, stamina and biddability.

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Don't use the shock collar yet. Just keep doin what you are doing, if you can get infront and flush the bird or if he goes with you, I'd kill it. A sequential program is paramount to success. In a nutshell this summer get him to stop/stand/whoa to the tap of a checkcord then overlay it to a nick on ...

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